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Should be a wild four years.

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Tear gas and rounds being fired in LA. Looks like LA cops aren't taking shit like portand do

Edit: yeah more drama in LA. Shit loads of tear gas

I'm hearing about the No Kings movement for the first time, is it new or has it been going for a while now? To me it sounds like some fed/corpo backed group that sprung up recently.
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Run by jews
Do you idiots ever go off this site? See how it's all old boomers whites that used to be pink haired millennial girls doing all this shit? Oh, just the 'jews' right?

Morons. There are some Jews but goddamn it's like 5% at most of it, it's mostly old boomers. Null himself said he went to one, ask him. He said it was smell old boomers and a few spics. That's what this is, you think 'da Jews' are all this shit? Idiots.
 
People do not realize how close we were to have this parade featuring military men doing TikTok dances and furries on their 4's with their gay leather gear.
Tik tok dances need to be in step, a grade above what our handpicked could muster
 
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How much you wanna bet Trump's approval rating craters after this? Not that it matters much, his entire administration lost all credibility in my eyes when he outright said he would import 500,000 Chinese immigrants to take our jobs.
but but but he saluted so good!

I read the US army is not willing to disclose how much it will cost to repave all the pavement that multi dozen ton tracked vehicles may have fucked
 
From a couple of days ago:

I’m Running Out of Ways to Explain How Bad This Is (Again)
The Atlantic (archive.ph)
By Charlie Warzel
2025-06-13 22:47:46GMT

The L.A. distortion effect
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Photograph by Robert LeBlanc

One hallmark of our current moment is that when an event happens, there is little collective agreement on even basic facts. This, despite there being more documentary evidence than ever before in history: Information is abundant, yet consensus is elusive.

The ICE protests in Los Angeles over the past week offer an especially relevant example of this phenomenon. What has transpired is fairly clear: A series of ICE raids and arrests late last week prompted protests in select areas of the city, namely downtown, near a federal building where ICE has offices, and around City Hall and the Metropolitan Detention Center. There have been other protests south of there, around a Home Depot in Paramount, where Border Patrol agents gathered last week. The majority of these protests have been civil (“I mostly saw clergy sit-ins and Tejano bands,” The American Prospect’s David Dayen wrote). There has been some looting and property destruction. “One group of vandals summoned several Waymo self-driving cars to the street next to the plaza where the city was founded and set them ablaze,” my colleague Nick Miroff, who has been present at the demonstrations, wrote.

As is common in modern protests, there has also been ample viral footage from news organizations showing militarized police responding aggressively in encounters, sometimes without provocation. In one well-circulated clip, an officer in riot gear fires a nonlethal round directly at an Australian television correspondent carrying a microphone while on air; another piece of footage shot from above shows a police officer on horseback trampling a protester on the ground.

All of these dynamics are familiar in the post-Ferguson era of protest. What you are witnessing is a news event distributed and consumed through a constellation of different still images and video clips, all filmed from different perspectives and presented by individuals and organizations with different agendas. It is a buffet of violence, celebration, confusion, and sensationalism. Consumed in aggregate, it might provide an accurate representation of the proceedings: a tense, potentially dangerous, but still contained response by a community to a brutal federal immigration crackdown.

Unfortunately, very few people consume media this way. And so the protests follow the choose-your-own-adventure quality of a fractured media ecosystem, where, depending on the prism one chooses, what’s happening in L.A. varies considerably.

Anyone is capable of cherry-picking media to suit their arguments, of course, and social media has always narrowed the aperture of news events to fit particular viewpoints. Regardless of ideology, dramatic perspectives succeed on platforms. It is possible that one’s impression of the protests would be incorrectly skewed if informed only by Bluesky commentators, MSNBC guests, or self-proclaimed rational centrists. The right, for example, has mocked the idea of “mostly peaceful protests” as ludicrous when juxtaposed with video of what they see as evidence to the contrary. It’s likely that my grasp of the events and their politics are shaped by decades of algorithmic social-media consumption.

Yet the situation in L.A. only further clarifies the asymmetries among media ecosystems. This is not an even playing field. The right-wing media complex has a disproportionate presence and is populated by extreme personalities who have no problem embracing nonsense AI imagery and flagrantly untrue reporting that fits their agenda. Here you will find a loosely affiliated network of streamers, influencers, alternative social networks, extremely online vice presidents, and Fox News personalities who appear invested in portraying the L.A. protests as a full-blown insurrection. To follow these reports is to believe that people are not protesting but rioting throughout the city. In this alternate reality, the whole of Los Angeles is a bona fide war zone. (It is not, despite President Donald Trump’s wildly disproportionate response, which includes deploying hundreds of U.S. Marines to the area and federalizing thousands of National Guard members.)

I spent the better part of the week drinking from this particular firehose, reading X and Truth Social posts and watching videos from Rumble. On these platforms, the protests are less a news event than a justification for the authoritarian use of force. Nearly every image or video contains selectively chosen visuals of burning cars or Mexican flags unfurling in a smog of tear gas, and they’re cycled on repeat to create a sense of overwhelming chaos. They have titles such as “CIVIL WAR ALERT” and “DEMOCRATS STOKE WW3!” All of this incendiary messaging is assisted by generative-AI images of postapocalyptic, smoldering city streets—pure propaganda to fill the gap between reality and the world as the MAGA faithful wish to see it.

I’ve written before about how the internet has obliterated the monoculture, empowering individuals to cocoon themselves in alternate realities despite confounding evidence—it is a machine that justifies any belief. This is not a new phenomenon, but the problem is getting worse as media ecosystems mature and adjust to new technologies. On Tuesday, one of the top results for one user’s TikTok search for Los Angeles curfew was an AI-generated video rotating through slop images of a looted city under lockdown. Even to the untrained eye, the images were easily identifiable as AI-rendered (the word curfew came out looking like ciuftew). Still, it’s not clear that this matters to the people consuming and sharing the bogus footage. Even though such reality-fracturing has become a load-bearing feature of our information environment, the result is disturbing: Some percentage of Americans believes that one of the country’s largest cities is now a hellscape, when, in fact, almost all residents of Los Angeles are going about their normal lives.

On platforms such as Bluesky and Instagram, I’ve seen L.A. residents sharing pictures of themselves going about their day-to-day lives—taking out the trash, going to the farmers’ market—and lots of pictures of the city’s unmistakable skyline against the backdrop of a beautiful summer day. These are earnest efforts to show the city as it is (fine)—an attempt to wrest control of a narrative, albeit one that is actually based in truth. Yet it’s hard to imagine any of this reaching the eyes of the people who participate in the opposing ecosystem, and even if it did, it’s unclear whether it would matter. As I documented in October, after Hurricanes Helene and Milton destroyed parts of the United States, AI-generated images were used by Trump supporters “to convey whatever partisan message suits the moment, regardless of truth.”

In the cinematic universe of right-wing media, the L.A. ICE protests are a sequel of sorts to the Black Lives Matter protests of the summer of 2020. It doesn’t matter that the size and scope have been different in Los Angeles (at present, the L.A. protests do not, for instance, resemble the 100-plus nights of demonstrations and clashes between protesters and police that took place in Portland, Oregon, in 2020): Influencers and broadcasters on the right have seized on the association with those previous protests, insinuating that this next installment, like all sequels, will be a bigger and bolder spectacle. Politicians are running the sequel playbook—Senator Tom Cotton, who wrote a rightly criticized New York Times op-ed in 2020 urging Trump to “Send in the Troops” to quash BLM demonstrations, wrote another op-ed, this time for The Wall Street Journal, with the headline “Send in the Troops, for Real.” (For transparency’s sake, I should note that I worked for the Times opinion desk when the Cotton op-ed was published and publicly objected to it at the time.)

There is a sequel vibe to so much of the Trump administration’s second term. The administration’s policies are more extreme, and there’s a brazenness to the whole affair—nobody’s even trying to justify the plot (or, in this case, cover up the corruption and dubious legality of the government’s deportation regime). All of us, Trump supporters very much included, are treated as a captive audience, forced to watch whether we like it or not.

This feeling has naturally trickled down to much of the discourse and news around Trump’s second presidency, which feels (and generally is) direr, angrier, more intractable. The distortions are everywhere: People mainlining fascistic AI slop are occupying an alternate reality. But even those of us who understand the complexity of the protests are forced to live in our own bifurcated reality, one where, even as the internet shows us fresh horrors every hour, life outside these feeds may be continuing in ways that feel familiar and boring. We are living through the regime of a budding authoritarian—the emergency is here, now—yet our cities are not yet on fire in the way that many shock jocks say they are.

The only way out of this mess begins with resisting the distortions. In many cases, the first step is to state things plainly. Los Angeles is not a lawless, postapocalyptic war zone. The right to protest is constitutionally protected, and protests have the potential to become violent—consider how Trump is attempting to use the force of the state to silence dissent against his administration. There are thousands more peaceful demonstrations scheduled nationally this weekend. The tools that promised to empower us, connect us, and bring us closer to the truth are instead doing the opposite. A meaningful percentage of American citizens appears to have dissociated from reality. In fact, many of them seem to like it that way.
Protests Go Beyond Immigration to Include Array of Left-Wing Causes
The New York Times (archive.ph)
By Katie Benner, Jenna Fisher, and Luis Ferré-Sadurní
2025-06-14 01:50:54GMT

Voices at the demonstrations are often a mix that includes calls for more explicit support for racial justice, Palestinian freedom and socialist politics.
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A Palestinian flag at a rally in Chicago on Tuesday.Credit...Jamie Kelter Davis for The New York Times

At a protest in St. Louis on Wednesday called “March to Defend Immigrant Rights,” participants chanted, “From Ferguson to Palestine, occupation is a crime!” invoking unrest in Ferguson, Mo., over police brutality in 2014 and Palestinian freedom.

The scene encapsulated how the left’s decades-long embrace of intersectionality — the concept that all oppressed people are linked — gives the protest movement large numbers of supporters but also can create a cacophony of messages.

The forces stirring action on the streets this week have been led by labor groups. And many protests, including those in Los Angeles, have continued to focus on workplace raids. But the voices at other protests are mixed, an echo of the wide array of progressive forces that have animated every anti-Trump protest this year.

Those earlier actions have been coordinated affairs, planned in advance for weeks by large groups like MoveOn and Indivisible, which have helped keep actions focused on concerns like cuts to Medicaid and Social Security, the power of billionaires and immigration policies. But in this week’s spontaneous actions, the many interests from the broad base of anti-Trump activists came to the fore, including more explicit support for racial justice, Palestinian freedom and socialist politics.

“In this moment we must all stand together,” said Becky Pringle, the head of the National Education Association, the largest individual union in the country and one of the groups that sprang into action as the protests emerged in Los Angeles.

Local chapters of the Party for Socialism and Liberation, a Communist Party offshoot of the Workers World Party, have also played a leading role, working with local leftist groups to post information about new demonstrations from California to Maine.

The group’s concerns are among the mélange of causes animating protests that were born out of workplace raids to round up illegal immigrants. Palestinian supporters have shown up at protests in Chicago, New York and elsewhere. When the St. Louis march ended on Wednesday, various groups took the opportunity to rally support for queer rights, Black Lives Matter and tornado relief and cleanup efforts.

The St. Louis march was promoted on social media by the Party for Socialism and Liberation, Voices for Palestine Network, Black Men Build St. Louis and the Ecosocialist Green Party.

“St. Louis is a small city, and a lot of the people that care about organizing for human rights tend to all work loosely with each other through an unofficial coalition,” said Kaitlyn Killgo, one of the activists.

The presence of many different causes can dilute the message of any one protest — and risks appearing to general observers like a gathering of far-left activists. This issue is a familiar one for mainstream Democrats. While parsing their losses in the 2024 election, they have debated whether they diminished their appeal to the public by treating all causes as equally important.

Community networks have galvanized protesters in other cities. When Laura Valdez, a civil rights activist in San Francisco, saw the video of ICE agents detaining a prominent labor leader in Los Angeles, she believed that immigrants and activists faced a new level of danger.

“This was a four-alarm fire,” said Ms. Valdez, the executive director of Mission Action, an advocacy organization for low-income and immigrant communities. “We needed to activate.”

The video of the labor leader’s arrest was taken on Friday. By Monday, Ms. Valdez and Mission Action were participating in one of dozens of protests that sprang up across the country in response to the Trump administration’s immigration raids.

The rapid appearance of people on the streets of so many American cities was not a coincidence. Mission Action and other left-leaning organizations were able to mobilize quickly because they have spent all year protesting President Trump’s policies; several gatherings attracted hundreds of thousands of participants. Their networks were primed.

On Monday, the Austin, Texas, chapter of the Party for Socialism and Liberation posted on social media: “Emergency protest: solidarity with LA! We’ll see y’all tomorrow at the state capitol to say ‘ICE out of our cities! Stop the deportations!’”

That same day, the People’s Forum, a New York City workers’ rights organization, told supporters that there would be a protest the following day in solidarity with Los Angeles. “We refuse to be silenced! The people of New York City demand ICE get out of our communities, stop the deportations, and stop the raids.”

On June 10, the Maine chapter of the Party for Socialism and Liberation put out the word on social media: “Emergency Protest. From LA to Bangor: ICE Out! June 11 — 6:30pm. Pierce Park.”

Reaction to the Trump administration has brought a broad swath of progressive groups in close coordination, with leaders often speaking multiple times a day about how various policies are affecting their communities.

“Ultimately, this comes down to workers’ rights,” Ms. Pringle said.

Mr. Trump’s desire to remove undocumented immigrants from the country has had an especially galvanizing effect among left-leaning organizations. The coalition of centrist Democratic nonprofits and far-left national and local organizations that stood together during the first Trump administration splintered over whether to support Palestinians after the Oct. 7, 2023, terrorist attack on Israel by Hamas.

In addition to coordinating anti-Trump protests, progressive groups have been working to educate immigrant workers, students, educators and religious leaders about their rights and to connect them with mutual aid and legal assistance.

When ICE agents began entering workplaces in Los Angeles late last week, that network went on high alert. “We could see that the government had decided it would be more effective to apprehend hundreds of people through workplace enforcement rather than having several agents try to go after one person at a time,” Ms. Valdez said.

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David Huerta, the president of the Service Employees International Union of California. His arrest helped catalyze the protests.Credit...Philip Cheung for The New York Times

And then came the arrest of David Huerta, the president of the Service Employees International Union of California, as he recorded a video of the immigration raid. The service employees union and other national and local union leaders began to talk about how to respond. They supported the idea of public opposition.

Other unions reached out to the SEIU to ask how they could help. Following the SEIU’s lead, they decided that the best course of action was to bring public attention to Mr. Huerta’s arrest and to denounce Mr. Trump’s decision to use federal force to quell protests.

“Labor is everywhere,” said Ms. Pringle, whose organization was in touch with the SEIU. “The three million educators in the National Education Association are in every congressional district and community.” The California Teachers Association and other progressive state organizations committed to push out messaging and encourage citizens to protest, a pattern that was replicated across the country.

Since Friday, and following the deployment of the National Guard, a broad coalition of organizations has called on the public to join demonstrations in downtown Los Angeles. They include Unión del Barrio, a grass roots group with volunteer membership that describes itself as revolutionary and anti-imperialist, and Local Black Lives Matter leaders.

“This is our fight. This is our fight,” Melina Abdullah, a co-founder of the Los Angeles chapter of Black Lives Matter, said in a recent video on social media.

“For both moral and strategic reasons, this is a Black fight.”

In New York City, protests have coalesced outside the federal immigration headquarters in Lower Manhattan this week. But they have typically morphed into a stew of left-wing causes, with Palestinian calls for liberation and Occupy Wall Street chants overtaking the group’s message against deportations.

A large rally that began at 5 p.m. on Tuesday drew hundreds of demonstrators, including immigrant New Yorkers who said they were rallying on behalf of parents, friends and relatives who were undocumented. They marched to chants of “Abolish ICE,” and carried yellow signs, in English and Spanish, that said “ICE out of NYC.”

But by 10 p.m., as much of the protest had dissipated, a splinter group of about 100 protesters remained, some wearing tactical looking outfits and kaffiyehs, appearing more intent on taunting police officers and causing disruption with sporadic chants of Palestinian liberation.

At a protest this week in Chicago, many protesters also wore kaffiyehs and carried signs supporting Palestinians. Some of the loudest chants heard downtown were targeted at U.S. policy in Gaza: “From Palestine to Mexico these border walls have got to go!”

The spontaneous protests that erupted this week are a preview of what is to come on Saturday — a long-planned, nationwide protest against the Trump administration called No Kings, scheduled to coincide with the president’s birthday and a military parade celebrating the Army’s 250th birthday.

Several prominent progressive coalitions planned No Kings, including MoveOn, Indivisible and 50501.

There will be no event in Washington, the site of the parade. Organizers want to draw attention to the president’s many opponents throughout the country. In addition to the flagship march that will take place in Philadelphia, organizers said there will be No Kings marches in at least 2,000 cities and towns, in every state in the country.
 
Do you idiots ever go off this site? See how it's all old boomers whites that used to be pink haired millennial girls doing all this shit? Oh, just the 'jews' right?

Morons. There are some Jews but goddamn it's like 5% at most of it, it's mostly old boomers. Null himself said he went to one, ask him. He said it was smell old boomers and a few spics. That's what this is, you think 'da Jews' are all this shit? Idiots.
it is run by jews. I did three long write ups earlier going into the organisation behind it, who founded that, and where their funding is from.

My question is, do you ever check anything for yourself before sperging out because someone said jew?
 
Anyone who can give a TLDR for todays events? Don't have time to read through but curious
Trump and the U.S. Army had a fun parade, a bunch of pissy left-wing Boomer's had a bunch of marches, things still are popping off hot with the anti-ICE protests on the left coast, and a guy appointed by Tim Walz shot two Minnesota state lawmakers and is currently on the run.
 
Part of what's missing is the mass corporate manufacturing of consent that accompanied BLM. Sure, Corporate America might have more of a direct stake in illegal labor than they did with race relations but you're not seeing Target change their logo to a Mexican flag. Yet.
Enlightened schizoid take: Protesting/rioting as a concept is a psy-op by the powers that be. They want us to think the best way to let our displeasure with them be known is to hold up some faggy signs, do an even faggier chant, and MAYBE burn down a Wendy's if things get extra spicy. They prefer this to the logical reaction, which is to track them down and give them a stern talking to.
Anyone who can give a TLDR for todays events? Don't have time to read through but curious

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Do you idiots ever go off this site? See how it's all old boomers whites that used to be pink haired millennial girls doing all this shit? Oh, just the 'jews' right?

Morons. There are some Jews but goddamn it's like 5% at most of it, it's mostly old boomers. Null himself said he went to one, ask him. He said it was smell old boomers and a few spics. That's what this is, you think 'da Jews' are all this shit? Idiots.
You’re citing null as a gotcha to show Jews don’t have influence in American politics?
 
Do you idiots ever go off this site? See how it's all old boomers whites that used to be pink haired millennial girls doing all this shit? Oh, just the 'jews' right?

Morons. There are some Jews but goddamn it's like 5% at most of it, it's mostly old boomers. Null himself said he went to one, ask him. He said it was smell old boomers and a few spics. That's what this is, you think 'da Jews' are all this shit? Idiots.
Below are the links to who is behind the No KIngs Movement. Being Jewish is relevant because they have consistently talked bout from the beginning of the movement about the relevance of them being Jews.
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There is a shit more interview with them online about their movement for pro-immigration and how being Jewish is important to why they do it.

You can also look here at my write ups but it is still only an overview

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Yes there are leftist Jews, so what? OBVIOUSLY THERE ARE LEFTIST IDIOT JEWS, Leena Dunham and so on. Forever.

If you say 'the Jews' are against it', that means 'Hasan is a Jew' right in some Venn diagram of it all? Blah!!!
 
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