2025 Israel vs Iran War

[Adrenochrome Dreams]

When you've got nukes, everyone should pay heed. It isn't like you have to be overly accurate with them and they aren't firecrackers. Although highly unlikely, things could escalate rather quickly and go from a spat between two countries, to a spat between a dozen and snare the globe.

China will get involved too if Israel keeps hitting Irans oil depots, that's something China will do something about given they buy 75% of Irans oil.

Correct. And I was rated dumb the other day for saying that this will turn into World War 3 with China and Russia getting involved.

Also, China has almost the whole of Africa on its side, who they essentially own through unpayable debts.

 

[Ghost88]

Is it the Iron dome?

 

[Knyttet]

So leftist Jews that I don't agree with and have openly called out as faggots said something I don't agree with, somehow that's my fault?

It’s not all Jews. But it is always a Jew.

 

[mindlessobserver]

Anyone who thinks Israel is the victim or is "defending itself" should remember Israel has no serious enemies-and the state has not been in danger of being driven to the sea since 1967.

Your argument is the subject of a causality error. Consider WHY Israel is in no danger of being driven into the sea.

I find left wing arguments against Israel's behavior rather instructive in the broader sense. Because fundamentally Israel IS a Western Country that has western values and cultural norms. But its existence on the furthest fringes of Western Civilization means that it doesn't get to indulge in luxury beliefs like countries that are of similar size such as Denmark, the Netherlands or Portugal.

It does need to be pointed out that Israel is not a large country by any stretch of the imagination. Its smaller then most US States, and if it was in the EU it would look like this.



Its smaller then the Netherlands ffs. Both in land mass and population by half. I'm not pointing this out to ball wash the Israelis, I'm pointing this out to illustrate that the people acting like Israel has some sort of moral obligation to take the high road are fucking retards that don't know what they are talking about. The only reason "River to the Sea" doesn't become a prophecy instead of the idiot rantings of white liberals in American universities is because the Israelis don't indulge in the luxury belief that the foreigner is somehow a person to be invited in, that all people are innately good and that we can all get along.

Western countries can indulge in that lunacy because they have the safety of distance (for now). Israel can't. If they did they would all be literally killed. Its not even something their enemies are shy about saying. They have been very upfront about what they will do if they are given the opportunity to do it. In many respects the calls for the Muslims to slaughter all the Israelis is a manifestation of the left wing rot of self loathing for Western Civilization more broadly. So my "support" of Israel is a bit more nuanced in the fact that it is a nationalist country that is beset by enemies and it is perfectly justified in defending its people from the foreign hordes. I would not be consistent in saying Israel can't do this and then turn around and say the USA should do the exact same thing in dealing with the Beaner and Pajeet invasion.

 

[Catch The Rainbow]

Israel is no longer ruling out assassination of Iran’s Supreme Leader Khamenei, Ynet reports, citing the NY Times.

Here's a cute trick Israeli publications use to get around military censorship. They cannot break the censor but they can repeat news from other countries that isn't subject to it. They get news, forward it to NYT/whatever, wait for nyt to report it, then cite them with no problem

 

[Ishtar]

I find left wing arguments against Israel's behavior rather instructive in the broader sense. Because fundamentally Israel IS a Western Country that has western values and cultural norms. But its existence on the furthest fringes of Western Civilization means that it doesn't get to indulge in luxury beliefs like countries that are of similar size such as Denmark, the Netherlands or Portugal.

Okay I can see why you are misinformed here. Israel does not consider itself western-if it was actually a White settler colony like brown people thought it was, I would support it all the way.

It is not. Jews are not White, they do not consider themselves part of "western civilization". Ask any Israeli what they really think of western culture-they'll tell you its shit, they hate it, they hate Europeans, and nurse grudges recent and ancient. They laugh openly at Islamic terrorist attacks.

Western countries can indulge in that lunacy because they have the safety of distance (for now). Israel can't. If they did they would all be literally killed.

Israelis literally help Muslim refugees reach Europe.

In many respects the calls for the Muslims to slaughter all the Israelis is a manifestation of the left wing rot of self loathing for Western Civilization more broadly.

The self loathing you refer too is literally a Jewish invention. It would not exist without Jews-without the Holocaust narrative.

I don't despise Israel because its militarily capable or because I love Arabs(far from it)-but because Israel is part of the network of global jewry and is actually an enemy of my civilization, not an outpost of it.

 

[mindlessobserver]

Okay I can see why you are misinformed here. Israel does not consider itself western-if it was actually a White settler colony like brown people thought it was, I would support it all the way.

I didn't say "White", I said "Western Civilization". The term "White" is loaded with imprecision and is frankly useless in the context of explaining national behavior. White people happen to be mostly in Western Civilization, but not universally. Russia is "white", buts its behavior is decidedly central Asia. Iranians are "White" too, but like the Russians their behavior is Central Asian as well. More influenced by the Steppe Peoples and the Persian Empires respectively then anything that sprung from Greece and Rome.

Using the term "White" in the context can be said that the Perfidous Jews are slaughtering Caucasian's en masse. Which they are incidentally. The Iranians are quite literally Caucasian.

 

[ATandTism]

@mindlessobserver

Dumb take, 'defend' itself from enemies when the kikes have started every fight they've been in and have fully subverted the actual West to defend it from the consequences of it's actions. Size doesn't mean much when every other country is your puppet. Also the kikes are the ones pushing said 'invite the foreigner' beliefs abroad to destabilize the dirty goyim.

 

[Ishtar]

Its the boomer/counter jihad nonsense-Israel is some sort of crusader outpost/Rhodesia fighting the hordes.

I genuinely wish it was true-if it were, there would be no Muslims in the West now.

Ask an average Israeli what they really think about Americans, or Italians or Russians-when you aren't a tourist and they don't have to pretend to be polite.

They hate you-they may not express it as crudely as brownoids do-but Israelis(really all jews but israelis in particular)-despise White people. They enjoy seeing Whites suffer-and either want to fleece them or flood them with Arabs and Africans.

(I am reminded of one video after 9/11 some Israeli woman was talking about how America experienced what they did-but there was no empathy or even diplomatic solidarity-you could see the malicious glee in her face-she was smiling because the hated goyim were not only attacked but also in grief).

 

[TexWiller]

Israel shouldn't stop until Iran's most impressive building is two rocks stacked on top of one another.

Iran is a very large country. And israel failed to even take full control of Gaza.
No war was ever won by aerial power only. the IDF can surely kill and destroy a lot but the iranians are no dumb muzzies; they are a highly educated society and perhaps their main mistake was to believe the US wanted to really negotiate, instead they set them up for a surprise attack.

Western Country that has western values and cultural norms.

genocide, political assassinations and indiscriminate bombing of civilians is not in the western values and if it is, then my conclusion is that the sooner the west disappears in the distance, the better.

the jews are setting up themselves for a really bad time as by now more or less everyone hates them.

 

[mlanguishi]

It's so amazing how these guys are doing these back and forth and pauses. It's brinkmanship like, I guess, Cuban missile crisis with them but with actual weapons involved.

I suppose at some point it'll end up like the last rally between them and go back to a stalemate. What else can either really do now? And was there any verification that F-35s were shot down? Iran claimed that, but they always BS.

 

[mindlessobserver]

Its the boomer/counter jihad nonsense-Israel is some sort of crusader outpost/Rhodesia fighting the hordes.

I didn't say they were fighting for me/us. I said they were fighting for themselves. Which is fine. I just find the arguments that they shouldn't defend themselves retarded. Especially when it comes from wignat right wingers that say every people has the right to a nation that is allowed to defend itself people. This isn't a "Boomercon" take. Its a nationalist take.

I am a nationalist for the American nation. So I understand why Israel behaves the way it does and I cannot condemn them for doing so. Because if I did I would be a hypocrite.

Dumb take, 'defend' itself from enemies when the kikes have started every fight they've been in

Whoever is first in the field and awaits the coming of the enemy, will be fresh for the fight; whoever is second in the field and has to hasten to battle will arrive exhausted.

 

[Ishtar]

Israel veers between pretending to be a liberal modern state and talking about Amalek as though it is still 1040 BC.

They do not share "western values"-they do not value life like we do. They do not respect or even have the slightest curiosity about others, their mindset is iron age tribalism and 20th century paranoia joined together.

Secular Askhenazi are all raised in a culture of victimhood, contempt for the outsider, and perpetual grievance(not to mention shameless cheating, hustling and deception). Religious Israelis(the Haredim) are far worse.*

Israelis do not possess "western values"-not one bit.

*Do you know what the worst thing you can be called in Israel is? A freier. An old word I believe from Russian Yiddish-basically means sucker or pawn. Israelis lie with casual ease-if you have the slightest bit of integrity in Israeli society you are viewed as a loser straight up. A chump to be taken advantage of.

The more one reads about Israelis-the more one cannot help but despise them.

 

[ATandTism]

It's so amazing how these guys are doing these back and forth and pauses. It's brinkmanship like, I guess, Cuban missile crisis with them but with actual weapons involved.

I suppose at some point it'll end up like the last rally between them and go back to a stalemate. What else can either really do now? And was there any verification that F-35s were shot down? Iran claimed that, but they always BS.

It either ends with a few more missiles launched and we're back to the status quo or the kikes false flag the US 9/11 style back into the sandbox

 

[Sammich]

Iran is currently hitting Israeli civilian areas with no military targets nearby in an attempt to maximize Israeli civilian deaths

why should Israel have all the fun, bitch. You can't hit someone and then cry when you get hit back.

 

[mindlessobserver]

They do not share "western values"-they do not value life like we do. They do not respect or even have the slightest curiosity about others, their mindset is iron age tribalism and 20th century paranoia joined together.

What are "western values"? If you kill your enemies they win?

 

[Ishtar]

What are "western values"? If you kill your enemies they win?

All people are at least worthy of fair engagement, and have some inherent value as human beings-and that compassion, charity, and honesty are virtues to be exercised for one's fellow man.

Basically Christian moralism and humanism basically.

 

[Catch The Rainbow]

why should Israel have all the fun, bitch. You can't hit someone and then cry when you get hit back.

Cheering on civilian casualties to own the Jews

*Do you know what the worst thing you can be called in Israel is? A freier. An old word I believe from Russian Yiddish-basically means sucker or pawn. Israelis lie with casual ease-if you have the slightest bit of integrity in Israeli society you are viewed as a loser straight up. A chump to be taken advantage of.

Lmao no. Worst thing is to be called a collaborator.

Secular Askhenazi are all raised in a culture of victimhood, contempt for the outsider, and perpetual grievance

Isn't that what you've been doing this whole thread

BREAKING; Thick black smoke seen as Israel targets south-central Iran.

Electronics plant hit in Shiraz.

 

[EyeGuy]

Shiraz:

 

[merpalerpaherp]

All people are at least worthy of fair engagement, and have some inherent value as human beings-and that compassion, charity, and honesty are virtues to be exercised for one's fellow man.

Basically Christian moralism and humanism basically.

Welcome to this little thing called life, shit ain't sweet, shit ain't fair it's a dog eat dog world. Nobody inherently has value, that's some pussy thinking, go make your value.