2025 Israel vs Iran War

[Exfurminatus Now]

Everything they say(even facts) must be understood as narrative shaping and disruption of (deemed) harmful narratives(to the state of Israel.

You'll note they do not simply post facts or even explain their personal feelings or circumstances-their goals are dedicated to propaganda and psyops campaigning

Wow, welcome to geopolitics! Did you just learn what propaganda is yesterday? Every country does this. It's not something unique to Israel. Get the fuck off the internet and get some fresh air, man. Seething about the Jews 24/7 has got to be tiring.

 

[YautjaWeeb]

Yeah.

Takes more than the goy's giddy willingness to pay and finance this all. The physical reality of resupplying rapidly depleted high-cost air defenses and 400 million arabs wanting 10 million tinyhats dead now for reasons of basic self-preservation rather than behavioral and religious grounds can only be ignored on message boards.

 

[Dawdler]

It's called force multiplication. The number of troops doesn't matter. Iraq had on paper 10 times as many soldiers as what the USA used to invade them. Armies are complicated institutions. You could have a million men and they would be worse then useless if you can't get food, fuel and ammo to them, can't communicate effectively with them or provide them meaningful strategic support when they end up engaged with the enemy.

Modern warfare as fought by America and tona certain extent Israel is all about setting the stage before the grunts actually start shooting at each other. By the time that happens the USA will have turbo fucked the enemy Army by blowing up its logistics train, communications capability and commanders with stand off artillery, airstrikes and naval strikes. By the time the average hajji shooter sees a real life American infantryman he's already gone 3 days with no food, his LT is shitting himself because he's not heard from his commander in a week and the tanks that were supposed to cover your position got blown up by an Apache 6 hours ago. Now it's 3 AM, you've not had any sleep and the 5.56 is coming in and you can't see shit because that aforementioned LT sold all your night vision equipment on the black market.

That hubris is how americans lost every middle east conflict. What America and Israel has is better equipment and better training.
That means nothing if you need boots on the ground in hostile area. Even obama's 100k troops didn't win faganistan.
Flip floppers never had a logistic chain, they don't have coms or artilery or air capability and most certainly no navy. Their commander is just a random dude from a village that has one good eye and one working leg and has seen soviets shit themselves and leave.
There's nothing strategic to blow up. 3 days without food ? They were starving for their entire life. Amerifat troop eats in a day what sunburned turdiban eats in a month. It is insanely expensive to sustain a military 10000km from their country and american taxpayer is booting the bill.
All that arabs need to do is wait it out. There's nothing really left of america. Demographic and health crisis - Every ME shithole has better demographic and is more homogeneous than burger states and now that conflict has been brought home.
China and russia are just waiting for an opportunity, a crack in US's military and they will take everything that has made US great. Taiwan for starters as it's a source of cheap labour and tech and then Japan. UK, France and Germany are completely beaten into pulp and won't provide much aid and pozstralia is in china's pockets already.

 

[EyeGuy]

Close-up of an airstrike in Isfahan:

 

[teriyakiburns]

the only numbers that matter are the numbers in the air

iran could raise an army of 5 million and get permission to march it through iraq/syria/jordan and it would never even get to israel because it couldn't be defended against air attack. it would run out of transportation and food before it ever got there. anything on wheels or tracks would get buttfucked from the sky. all that'd be left is a bunch of exhausted thirsty hungry infantry halfway across al-anbar governate and halfway across syria with nowhere to go and no way to get there

But what if, and just hear me out for a moment... what if they took the train?

 

[Hatter]

Seriously, Iran only managed to hit some apartments and houses? Thats it?
What is Irans actual gameplan here?

 

[Iron Jaguar]

It is still relevant for shooting drones since they are basically slow and undefended target.

Not dogfighting.

 

[G19]

Side with whoever you want but this LARP that Israel is defending themselves is like watching children lie about sticking their fingers in their birthday cake.

 

[Welfare Bum]

Seriously, Iran only managed to hit some apartments and houses? Thats it?
What is Irans actual gameplan here?

Strategic objectives as far as I can tell.

Israel: Destroy Iranian nuclear program. (Status: Unachievable without American strategic bombers.)

Iran: Get Israel to fuck off and leave them alone. (Status: Unknown.)

I'm gonna make a prediction. Feel free to dunk on me if this doesn't happen. But by next Sunday at the latest, there will be a ceasefire brokered between Israel and Iran through a mediator, either Russia or America.

 

[EyeGuy]

Seriously, Iran only managed to hit some apartments and houses? Thats it?
What is Irans actual gameplan here?

Best explanation IMO:

So why are the Iranians aiming missiles at civilian concentrations?

My friend Eliyahu Ben Asher argues here that this shows the great desperation that is currently gripping the Iranians - if they really wanted to win the campaign, they would invest all their efforts in strategic military assets.

I think there is a much simpler explanation for this phenomenon.

If there is one thing that the world in general and the Iranians in particular have learned in the past year, it is that it is much easier to subdue Israel through prolonged civilian casualties than through a face-to-face military confrontation.

They, of course, learned this from Israeli society's attitude towards the issue of the abductees:
Israel is stuck in a strategic impasse in Gaza because Israeli society is unable to absorb the cost of harming the hostages in favor of a strategic victory and the destruction of Hamas. The inability to give up the hostages as a war objective is the guarantee that we will fail to achieve the main goal: victory.

The Iranians see how all the major military achievements in Gaza are erased time after time (deals, withdrawals, etc.) simply because Israel is obsessed with its desire to stop harming the hostages and bring about their release, come what may - and in my opinion, they are trying to import this model into the Iranian arena.

They hope that as grandmothers and children continue to be killed by missiles, civilian endurance to face such sights will wane and internal social pressure to stop the war in Iran will increase, just as happened in the Gaza arena.

As mentioned, they definitely have something to rely on, but will it work for them?
I think there are big differences between Iran and Gaza, and we will expand on them in separate posts.

Helicopters shooting down drones, 20 intercepted within the last hour:

 

[LOWERCASE LETTERS]

Thunderdome is full of perpetually MATI users who paint their opponents as Jews, niggers, faggots, trannies, etc., in an attempt to grovel to spectators in the hopes that said opponents' pozzholes will be negrated.

The funny part is that only they care about reactions. It's consistently the politics forums that have the most reaction-related meltdowns and alt accounts used to negrate posting enemies and other gay shit.

Iran is currently hitting Israeli civilian areas with no military targets nearby in an attempt to maximize Israeli civilian deaths

Also lmao at Nazis ignoring me because I'm Jewish then reposting the same shit I reported. Fragile faggots can't handle a dissenting opinion

This is why Arabs will never ever win. Doing this doesn't do a thing to impede the ability of Israel to keep bombing the shit out of Iran. If they had half a brain they'd have pointed all those ballistic missiles at an airbase or something.

 

[Gerelatha]

I'm gonna make a prediction. Feel free to dunk on me if this doesn't happen. But by next Sunday at the latest, there will be a ceasefire brokered between Israel and Iran through a mediator, either Russia or America.

this certainly seems like the most realistic outcome to me, neither side has anything to *really* strategically defeat one another

 

[EyeGuy]

Shiraz:

Three of Tehran's airports - Karaj, Imam Khomeini, and Mehrabad - have been hit in the last hour:

Oil facility in Ahvaz hit:

 

[I'm still your friend.]

For everyone who feels a need to be invested, here is a challenge for you: Google the issues in your respective country. Ask yourself why you are more concerned about a squabble in the desert than that. If you can give me an actual answer, I would be shocked.

Because desert squabblers directly and indirectly account for most of the problems in my country. In any case, I merely wish both sides a very high kill count.

 

[ATandTism]

Seriously, Iran only managed to hit some apartments and houses? Thats it?
What is Irans actual gameplan here?

Survive.

They aren't equipped to do much, especially since the kikes have the rest of the world rushing to their defense. The best they can hope to do is minimize the damage and survive a few more years until Israel gets another narc on and lobs a few more missiles their way because they are 'weeks away from a nuke' for the 100th time in 60 years.

 

[merpalerpaherp]

Strategic objectives as far as I can tell.

Israel: Destroy Iranian nuclear program. (Status: Unachievable without American strategic bombers.)

Iran: Get Israel to fuck off and leave them alone. (Status: Unknown.)

I'm gonna make a prediction. Feel free to dunk on me if this doesn't happen. But by next Sunday at the latest, there will be a ceasefire brokered between Israel and Iran through a mediator, either Russia or America.

Iran has a history of making bad decisions when it comes to this stuff. The one thing they've never fully done and theaten to do is block the Strait of Hormuz which would cripple the oil market and other various goods. While we all know what would happen if they did it, I'm not putting it past them to not do it either. I think it is more likely they leverage that then negoiate a nuclear deal that bars enrichment and we get a rerun of operation praying mantis.

 

[EyeGuy]

Airstrikes on the Imam Hassan base in Kermanshah earlier this morning:

More of Netanyahu in Bat Yam:

 

[Catch The Rainbow]

Reality of no civs in aviv is actually more truthful. Every israeli has been in idf, received a military training and is technically just not-on-duty military personnel.

Brown logic. Reserves who are not on duty are civilians according to Geneva conventions.

it's really just a shitty ME dictatorship with a different flag

Where's the dictatorship?

**POLITICAL PRISONERS IN THE NOTORIOUS EVIN PRISON HAVE BEEN SUBJECTED TO INCREASING PRESSURE. PHONE CALLS HAVE BEEN CUT OFF IN NUMEROUS AREAS OF THE PRISON**
<https://x.com/IranIntlbrk/status/1934211554989199389>

 

[Kyria the Great]

Though one question I have is from an actual logistics point is how long can Israel sustain such actions as bombing runs can be quite expensive and though they're largely strategic, I can't imagine that this hasn't been hitting the old stocks of munitions.

 

[Dammit Mandrake!]

Close-up of an airstrike in Isfahan:
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Now THAT'S more like it.

So far I have learned that Iranians suck at getting footage.