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Miller is a genius strategy guy and really good at pushing the MAGA agenda forward but there is no way he could be elected. He isn't very personable and doesn't give the mushy non-answers that politicians give to get elected.
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After the mid terms Trump/Miller really need to start putting JDVance out there so people feel its just a continuation of the Trump administration.
I said it before and I'll say it again, JD Vance needs to leverage his constitutional power to buckbreak the Senate into supporting Trump's agenda. Remaking the Senate to support the MAGA agenda and disempower obstructive neocons and Dems would demonstrate how he'd act as a continuation of Trump if elected.
 
Check 'em.

@Crex Crex there's your answer. Official.
I wouldn't even conflate the "no kings" protests with a wet fart. A wet fart has consequences, unlike these protests that will have no lasting effects.

The "no kings" protests were not just isolated to the United States. They were supposed to be a world wide event with thousands of protests around the western world. It masqueraded itself as a multinational international peoples movement. But unlike the Summer of love 1.0 or the other riots of the past it lacked any real grass roots movements and had none of the funding. Nearly no one outside of current tinderbox flashpoints (LA in the US and some other locations) showed up, they couldn't even get something going in Chicago or New York. There's almost no international news even covering it because nothing happened in Europe.

It's such an abysmal failure of a movement that they will probably try to pretend it didn't happen/exist in 6 months. Just like the 50501 protests that were so bad they had to spin it into a long form "movement" instead of a protest because it performed so poorly.
 
But unlike the Summer of love 1.0 or the other riots of the past it lacked any real grass roots movements and had none of the funding.
this cannot be stressed enough. the death of infinity gibs to any pet cause a democrat wanted to fund has been a huge problem for them, and it's the reason that doge earned so much gnashing of teeth over the funding machine having rubber chickens thrown into the gears.
 
Nearly no one outside of current tinderbox flashpoints (LA in the US and some other locations) showed up, they couldn't even get something going in Chicago or New York.
I agree protesting is generally pointless, especially here, but I live in a small city in the north east and thousands of people still showed up. Older on average, and kind of confused on exactly why they were there, but there nonetheless.

It really is just a social event for them.
 
I agree protesting is generally pointless, especially here, but I live in a small city in the north east and thousands of people still showed up. Older on average, and kind of confused on exactly why they were there, but there nonetheless.

It really is just a social event for them.
Retired Boomers live in their bubbles as the world burns to the ground around them. But now the bubble has "popped" so to speak now that they are nervous about Social Security cuts. They must know in the back of their minds Zoomers cannot find jobs to pay for their borderline pyramid scheme anymore.
 
Is Elon a Jew too? I fully understand the leftist Jew old money, but it's not everything. There's a ton of money involved, I'd say a vast majority by now, that's not Jewish. I know that old antisemitism that 'It's all the Jews' runs deep and hard though, so it's not a logical thing that can be discussed.
It is jews/elite. I think old white elites saw the game jews were playing and decided it was a winning one. Kind of like wiggers try to imitate nigger culture. It is still jews at the root of it. Theyre a tiny percent of the warm bodies but 99% of the influence.

Just finished watching the parade video. It was glorious. There’s also a dog on a horse.
Was not expecting to enjoy the parade but the PBS stream had the old timey announcer/historian narrating the parade it was actually pretty cool.
 
Yeah, I can tell it's not going to last forever; recently, I nearly burned through $100 within an hour on gas and food from Winn Dixie (that was with me deliberately looking for sales in the store and using my membership to get discounts). That leads into the question of what is it going to be replaced with when it eventually does collapse? All of us are going to be in big, big trouble when it does, and it wouldn't surprise me if we're in a soft depression right now. - What the US has right now cannot be fixed at this point by voting your way out of it, or by some other means that are currently in place.

EDIT: Would also like to apologize for deliberately escalating slap fights in this thread last night and making things worse by reviling people back. Not a good thing to do for more reasons than one.

I'll be the first to admit, probably like 99% of us here, I was having a few beers and enjoying the parade like anyone else. Nothing wrong with it, tho it makes for a little extra energy with the boozin'.

We could all do with dialing it the fuck back a notch. Sure, call each other faggots here and there, but I'm here to talk politics and learn. Call me a faggot for it. We don't aktually don't have to down-toot everything that doesn't align perfectly with our viewpoints.

To add, we don't have to love war to acknowledge that military hardware is cool af. The US went from some backwater rural prairie-ville to the the greatest empire the world has ever seen. All in about 200 years. Not everything was pretty about that rise to power but fuck, what an accomplishment and we've done some good.
 
Already a day old and unimportant, but journos are still trying to astroturf the Trump/Musk squabble into being a big thing long after Musk bent the knee and apologized.
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Where would the MSM be without "people familiar with the matter" ? Such a nice way to be able to write any bullshit you want without ever getting your comeuppance when the lies are exposed.
 
Honestly, it happens so often and often enough that it literally can't be ignored. Yes. People take it too far and conflate the two, but when you have some Jews themselves saying "fuck the West", or literally telling you that they don't need help from anyone, but then come crying to us when they start cashing in checks they can't cover, it's time to take a second look and maybe let them finally understand the consequences of their actions.
oh thank god somebody has come to this thread to redpill us on the JQ, maybe you could argue with Catch the Rainbow, too.
 
There's a very real chance the transhumanists are right, if so and they make it to 2060 life extension might take them to 3000+. The youngest, most spoilt of the boomers we might never be rid of.

Transhumanism is one of the biggest scams in history.

Ever read actuarial tables?

All the life expectancy gains of the 20th/21st centuries have been about the early part of the lifespan.

Overall, a random baby born in 2000 will live decades longer than a random baby born in 1900.

BUT an average 90 year old in the year 2020 only has a few months of additional life expectancy versus a 90 year old in the year 1920.

It cannot be overstated how minimal the progress in actual advanced aging is. Every "life extension" thing you've ever seen is a scam. We are no better at meaningfully treating the diseases of senescence than we were decades ago. Huge amounts of research money have been flushed down the drain going down blind alleys for dementia treatments and cures, but none worked, and now the fact remains that by age 100, nearly all people are progressing rapidly into senility.

All the "this one specific region has tons of centenarians" regions turned out to be bullshit, and correlated mostly with not having good records of the period from 100-130 years ago. It turns out that likely a lot of the 110+ people were fakes, and the few who weren't, were flukes. We have had no luck making more.
 
Transhumanism is one of the biggest scams in history.

Ever read actuarial tables?

All the life expectancy gains of the 20th/21st centuries have been about the early part of the lifespan.

Overall, a random baby born in 2000 will live decades longer than a random baby born in 1900.

BUT an average 90 year old in the year 2020 only has a few months of additional life expectancy versus a 90 year old in the year 1920.

It cannot be overstated how minimal the progress in actual advanced aging is. Every "life extension" thing you've ever seen is a scam. We are no better at meaningfully treating the diseases of senescence than we were decades ago. Huge amounts of research money have been flushed down the drain going down blind alleys for dementia treatments and cures, but none worked, and now the fact remains that by age 100, nearly all people are progressing rapidly into senility.

All the "this one specific region has tons of centenarians" regions turned out to be bullshit, and correlated mostly with not having good records of the period from 100-130 years ago. It turns out that likely a lot of the 110+ people were fakes, and the few who weren't, were flukes. We have had no luck making more.

It's all a big dice game. As you start, your dice has mostly clean faces, with a few really bad outcomes for the unlucky. As you grow old, it get's worse and worse, until most of the dice is you dying . Around 80 it's all a matter of luck not rolling cancer or parkinsons or stroke. The people who last to 100+ won the lottery. People like Jeanne Calment kept rolling 20's.
 
I agree protesting is generally pointless, especially here, but I live in a small city in the north east and thousands of people still showed up. Older on average, and kind of confused on exactly why they were there, but there nonetheless.

It really is just a social event for them.
It's turned into basically "Generic Liberal Protest"--Trump represents everything they hate--not supporting Ukraine, not supporting Palestinians, cutting leftist govt jobs and big govt handouts, anti-trans/gay policies, etc. So it's a melange of weirdos with blue hair, Boomers singing 60s protest songs, Pride flags, whites wearing keffiyehs, DOGE haters, race batters, Forever COVID maskers, Open Borders types, etc all wrapped up in hating Trump as an almost abstract Emmanuel Goldstien.

A lot of unfocused sound and fury signifying nothing but numbers they can use, in certain cities, to proclaim a lot of support.

It cannot be overstated how minimal the progress in actual advanced aging is. Every "life extension" thing you've ever seen is a scam. We are no better at meaningfully treating the diseases of senescence than we were decades ago. Huge amounts of research money have been flushed down the drain going down blind alleys for dementia treatments and cures, but none worked, and now the fact remains that by age 100, nearly all people are progressing rapidly into senility

Yeah, no matter what it just seems to be genetic luck of the draw. Some people can go to 90s and 100s and seem spry, but then one year they just hit a wall and lose it fast, as opposed to others who decline slowly or early. You can do some things with lifestyle to mitigate it--two siblings might have very different death ages depending on diet, exercise, alcohol, etc. But there doesn't seem to be much you can do to prevent dying at 75 or 85 or 105.

Look at famous people in their 90s like Dick Van Dyke, Clint Eastwood, William Shatner. They look good now, Eastwood is gonna direct another movie. This is Shatner walking around in NYC a week ago at 94:
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And see how he acts here, how lively:

If you said he was 70, it would be believable. And he might be just as good in 6 months, or a year. But 10 years from now, probably 5, maybe 2, he'll hit a wall that a 70 year old in the same shape might not hit at 80.

I remember seeing there was an old black dude that was like 110 or something who still drive his old pickup truck and smoke and drank. Then a year or two later he dropped dead. Nobody has ever beat Jeanne Calment. 30 years ago people thought she was the wave of the future, but it seems more like she was just a genetic freak in a good way, like Manute Bol.
 
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