2025 Israel vs Iran War

[Foltest]

I just wanna say I think Tel Aviv's skyline is kinda ugly, they should let Iran demolish all that shit and have Trump redevelop it into the shining Jewgem of a city it could be

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Nah, it need a more classical look.
None of this modern shit,.

 

[3-2-1836]

"Hey, Shlomo, shall we add another hour or two of travel time to make sure our extremely valuable aircraft don't get hit?

We get unlimited refueling from US, British, German and French tankers"

"No."

Yes goyim we're going to add 164 miles of water to the the trip so our jets are only over muslim land for 872 miles instead of flying over Muslim land and extra 32 miles to be directly over Israeli territory.



Just to note, at F-15 crusing speed 32 miles is only 3 minutes and 22 seconds.

 

[Crex Crex]

Lmao I knew the mullahs were retarded but running a propaganda campaign with obvious AI-generated images? Really? Well, I guess you should expect that from a regime founded by a guy who liked discussing whether it was permissible to fuck cows.

 

[Catch The Rainbow]

What’s the goal with all this? Are they going for regime change, a specific goal or just enjoying flattening Tehran?

Started out with beating Iran into going back to the negotiating table and agree to denuclearize. Now might be regime change

 

[74164978231]

That's what I'm wondering about. Why do they bend themselves backwards to build these complicated thermonuclear weapons when they could construct a few gun-type bombs to be able to get a break (if they do have sufficient amounts of fissile U)

Gun types require very pure u235. That's very hard to get especially and that's before you don't want people to realize youre refining it.

 

[Chuckwagon]

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It's just one example but still, lol.

ferdinand and isabella of spain passed the alhambra decree to expel jews from their realm in 1492, barely 20 years after the unification of aragon and castille
over the next decades and centuries, spain went on to become one of the greatest naval and colonial powers on the planet, controlling huge parts of the americas and extending its influence as far as the philippines.

i'm not implying that expulsion of jews made spain great, i doubt it made any difference at all tbh, but spains alhambra decree is as far as i know the only example of a major european state actually doing the whole "expel the jews" meme, so it's the most meaningful example of this.

the rest of the "109 countries that expelled the jews" meme list is mostly jokes, it's all tiny counties, duchies, prince-bishoprics or free cites in the HRE, where there were thousands of such estates. jews getting expelled by one local lord just meant that they would move a couple dozen miles over and settle on the neighboring lords land instead.

Portugal also expelled their Jews a few years after Spain did it. The Portuguese were so hardcore about enforcing their ban on Jews, they even chased away Jews in colonies (previously established by more tolerant powers like the Dutch) which they conquered from their rivals. And England did it in 1290, but the ban was rescinded in 1655 by the supreme shabbos goy Cromwell as I've said before. Expelling Jews probably did not make any of these kingdoms into juggernauts, only coinciding with the emergence of the Spanish & Portuguese colonial empires since they were some of the European powers best positioned to take advantage of the dawning Age of Discovery, but it hardly crippled them either (the Iberian colonial juggernauts aside, England got strong enough to almost beat France despite having about 1/5 France's population in the Hundred Years' War and generally remained a reasonably strong actor on the European stage long after the 1290 expulsion).

 

[he who has thus come/gone]

Lmao I knew the mullahs were retarded but running a propaganda campaign with obvious AI-generated images? Really? Well, I guess you should expect that from a regime founded by a guy who liked discussing whether it was permissible to fuck cows.

Do you see some of the anti-Israel twitter and telegram accounts people are posting even in this thread? The AI works on dumb people.

 

[mindlessobserver]

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Fiiiiiiiiiine. The F-35 really is a cool plane. I take back everything I said about it, even if its been a white elephant for 30 fucking years and cost a bazillion times more then Lockheed said it would. I was just jealous of the grift and the flyboys, okay?!

 

[SBG]

What’s the goal with all this? Are they going for regime change, a specific goal or just enjoying flattening Tehran?
Or is the goal to rope in the rest of the west into the grand war against Iran that they’ve been champing at the bit for since the Blair years? We’ve had a solid decade or two of being told and primed that war with Iran is inevitable, so it must benefit someone.

Israel wants Iran’s nuclear program completely ended. No concessions where they get ‘some’ enrichment, just ended.

Iran likely doesn’t want to do that since it’d remove them as a threat in the region, so the war continues until Israel stops viewing Iran as a possible threat.

 

[TJT]

I do wonder if Israel are aiming to achieve regime collapse, or are just hoping to pressure Iran into ending their nuclear program entirely.

Israel can't be this retarded though. Bomb some stuff and expect the regime to collapse is just a real pie in the sky kind of plan.

 

[EyeGuy]

Dancing Israelis (wedding in shelter in Kiryat Arba):

 

[Otterly]

Yes goyim we're going to add 164 miles of water to the the trip so our jets are only over muslim land for 872 miles instead of flying over Muslim land for 910 miles to be directly over Israeli territory.

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Just to note, at F-15 crusing speed 32 miles is only 3 minutes and 22 seconds.

Three options.
1. There’s something under path 2 that’s a genuine threat which would be longer to go around than flying straight from akrotiri.
2. They’re tempting fate because if a jet from Cypriot airspace goes down that drags the west in.
3. Someone gave them a really good deal on jet fuel in Cyprus

Given the number of Russians in Cyprus, there may be option 4, you decide

 

[ragtime]

Gun types require very pure u235. That's very hard to get especially and that's before you don't want people to realize youre refining it.

Less so than thermonuclear warheads? That's ironic

 

[Catch The Rainbow]

There’s something under path 2 that’s a genuine threat which would be longer to go around than flying straight from akrotiri.

Jordan is there, they don't let Israel use their airspace.

Also this whole line of reasoning is retarded, my Israeli friends are hearing jets all the time

We reported an edition: South Syrian official who is close to power tells me that Syrian rule has no interest in the war between Israel and Iran, but it certainly does not object to Israeli activities as Iranian UAVs and missiles in Syria.

As we first reported here: In the last two days, planes carrying American weapons have arrived in Israel. (Blumenthal)

 

[Vertigo]

Cleared for publication: Efrat Saranga was killed in a direct missile strike in Bat Yam early this morning. Source

 

[Otterly]

Started out with beating Iran into going back to the negotiating table and agree to denuclearize. Now might be regime change

How does that look in real life though? Regime change is going to need boots on the ground isn’t it? Unless big daddy America brokers a peace deal. Is that the aim? Trump steps in like miss congeniality for world peace and bye bye ayotollahs?
Would Iranians welcome that? A fair number of them have to be pretty sick of the gap between where their country should be and where is it, they’re an intelligent people. I doubt they’d welcome Israeli boots on the ground, or the great satan either, but a third party brokered deal? Who would be acceptable?
I’m just wondering how this ‘looks’ when Israel win. Do they get to win directly or is America stepping in?

 

[EyeGuy]

One moderately injured reported so far. IDF says around 30 missiles were launched (Amit Segal).

 

[Mad_Dog]

 

[Catch The Rainbow]

We published this evening: Despite the closure of Israeli skies to passenger flights, Israel continues to stock up on hundreds of heavy bombs and bunker-busting bombs, even during the war in Iran. In the past two days, shipments of ammunition have also arrived in Israel from the US and Europe. It is not possible to specify which aircraft

Currently, Israel is attacking Iran alone, but the Americans continue to assist behind the scenes and also work alongside Israel in defending against aerial threats and in ammunition shipments.

How does that look in real life though? Regime change is going to need boots on the ground isn’t it? Unless big daddy America brokers a peace deal. Is that the aim? Trump steps in like miss congeniality for world peace and bye bye ayotollahs?
Would Iranians welcome that? A fair number of them have to be pretty sick of the gap between where their country should be and where is it, they’re an intelligent people. I doubt they’d welcome Israeli boots on the ground, or the great satan either, but a third party brokered deal? Who would be acceptable?
I’m just wondering how this ‘looks’ when Israel win. Do they get to win directly or is America stepping in?

I can't comment on regime change, I doubt even the Israelis know but Nadav Eyal had a great analysis about the deal

https://x.com/Nadav_Eyal/status/1933534057314328991

Now comes the strategic phase. It’s obvious that the U.S. and Israel are playing **good cop, bad cop** with Iran. Israel strikes. Meanwhile, President Trump says, “I’m ready to sign a deal.”

It’s the same model Israel proposed regarding Hezbollah: The U.S. pushed for a deal *before* the war. Israel said - let us first weaken their capabilities. Then we can talk. Now, Israel is using the same logic with Iran. All wars end. This one will too.

And the thinking in Jerusalem is: if we can cripple Iran’s capabilities first - and then negotiate - that’s the optimal outcome. But for that to happen, the U.S. must stay in the game. It must maintain leverage - either by escalating directly or by continuing to enable and defend Israel’s actions against Iran.

The way this ends matters most – not the first strike. The Islamic Republic fought the Iran-Iraq war for 8 years, and stopped only when its leader, Khumeini, decided its essential for the future of the regime.

If this is to have long-term meaning for the Middle East - if it’s to restore security and stability - then it must also ensure that Iran doesn’t use this war as cover to break out for a nuclear weapon.

No senior Israeli intelligence or military figure believes Iran is incapable of doing so -even in the face of overwhelming Israeli success. What Israel has begun can only be successfully brought to an end by the United States

Local source from Isfahan:
Several ballistic throwers in the Mount Safa were targeted and destroyed as soon as they were thrown.

(Filled from the garrison 1/5)

The Islamic Republic of Iran is not updating casualty figures, likely because it wants to appear as dominating Israel, but the organization Human Rights Activists in Iran, which has long kept track of casualty counts in Iran, says at least 406 people have been killed and another 654 injured.

This does not break down the difference between military, intelligence, political, and civilian casualties.

https://x.com/yashar/status/1934314539727876154

 

[mindlessobserver]

Three options.
1. There’s something under path 2 that’s a genuine threat which would be longer to go around than flying straight from akrotiri.
2. They’re tempting fate because if a jet from Cypriot airspace goes down that drags the west in.
3. Someone gave them a really good deal on jet fuel in Cyprus

Given the number of Russians in Cyprus, there may be option 4, you decide

People are forgetting that Israel has taken over a huge chunk of Southwestern Syria, to include Mount Hermon. This actually makes the idea they are using air bases in Cyprus even more retarded because it's actually better to use their own airfields and take that least time distance to Iran. Also, Israel has its own aerial refueling fleet that can in theory refuel 80 aircraft per mission. Though they are probably using less then that, and by firing long range cruise missiles and so on at extreme range can use more aircraft that don't have to go all the way. Aircraft can also be kitted with external fuel tanks, which people often forget about in these sorts of discussion. Israel doesn't have to fly the full 1,000 miles to Tehran. Many of the things they want to hit are in the west of the country which means payloads can be deployed at the extreme operational range of F-16's, F-35's and F-15's without necessitating in air refueling.

Which Ironically makes the Cyprus theory even more retarded because that extra 100 miles would make the job harder.