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America has gone to war with zero of the nations represented in the 9/11 hijackers. Nice try shabbos goy.
wow, you are actually full on retarded. bush senior was known to have taken HUGE amounts of money from the saudis to become /theirguy/ on the inside. one of their big goals was to dominate the area's oil fields. saddam's army was far more effective than the saudis (which is no surprise if you know anything about the saudi military) so they demanded bush get saddam out. he failed, and it lost him the presidency. when his son then finessed a win in 2000, it became of vital import to get into iraq. depending on exactly how conspiratorial you want to get, 9/11 was either entirely, or partially an inside job by the saudis and any number of american agencies, possibly even mossad. that's why i said the hint was that the reason we invaded was that the majority of the hijackers were of that nationality; saudi.

the saudis sent a bunch of their boys to fuck up the US in a (potentially false flag) terrorist attack, and bush used this to capitalize and take the opportunity to depose saddam for real. the surge was the result of that. theories on why al qaeda claimed responsibility range widely, but my favorite is that bin laden was still pissed that his world trade center bombing in 1999 had failed to make any effect on the US.

this is a very classic 9/11 conspiracy, how young are you?
 
  • 15 from Saudi Arabia: Mohamed Atta, Abdulaziz al-Omari, Wail al-Shehri, Waleed al-Shehri, Satam al-Suqami, Majed Moqed, Nawaf al-Hazmi, Salem al-Hazmi, Hani Hanjour, Ahmed al-Ghamdi, Hamza al-Ghamdi, Saeed al-Ghamdi, Ahmad al-Haznawi, Ahmed al-Nami, Mohand al-Shehri.
  • 2 from the United Arab Emirates: Marwan al-Shehhi, Fayez Banihammad.
  • 1 from Egypt: Ziad Jarrah.
  • 1 from Lebanon: Khalid al-Mihdhar.
Look, not a single fucking Iraqi you retarded nigger gorilla.
Not to be that guy but all I see is a bunch of Abdullahs. Makes no difference to me which country they are "technically" from. If I was Bush and I was struggling with basic math, I'd blow up Iraq too.

As a side note, I met an actual Iraqi recently who told me that (minus the ISIS period), the American invasion had had a net positive effect on his country. International investments are back, people are not getting arrested for random shit and the economy is going well. He said the Americans had done his people a massive favor by taking out Saddam and acting as a peace-keeper in the region. So here you go, George did something good after all.

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wow, you are actually full on retarded. bush senior was known to have taken HUGE amounts of money from the saudis to become /theirguy/ on the inside. one of their big goals was to dominate the area's oil fields. saddam's army was far more effective than the saudis (which is no surprise if you know anything about the saudi military) so they demanded bush get saddam out. he failed, and it lost him the presidency. when his son then finessed a win in 2000, it became of vital import to get into iraq. depending on exactly how conspiratorial you want to get, 9/11 was either entirely, or partially an inside job by the saudis and any number of american agencies, possibly even mossad. that's why i said the hint was that the reason we invaded was that the majority of the hijackers were of that nationality; saudi.

the saudis sent a bunch of their boys to fuck up the US in a (potentially false flag) terrorist attack, and bush used this to capitalize and take the opportunity to depose saddam for real. the surge was the result of that. theories on why al qaeda claimed responsibility range widely, but my favorite is that bin laden was still pissed that his world trade center bombing in 1999 had failed to make any effect on the US.

this is a very classic 9/11 conspiracy, how young are you?
Holy shit, I didn't know Sean Hannity had a Kiwi Farms account!
 
You mean like in Iraq, Syria or any of the other countries America has bombed and lost troops in that happens to correspond almost perfectly with the goals of Greater Israel? Every country Israel considers an enemy America somehow magically gets pulled into fighting.

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If these were the borders israel wanted then why did they give the entire sinai and west bank back after more or less conquering it during the six day war?

Half of /pol/ I'm convinced is Muslim and is basically begging the US Army not to ram rod Abrams down their throat via demoralization.
More than half of /pol/ is muslim and has been for sometime now. I think i said this before but you can prove it with a simple experiment.

Next time you see a jew seethe thread involving the middle east say something like "yeah guys kikes are the worst for sure! But let's not forget that arabs and muslims are subhuman scum as well and should be killed be it in western nations or in their own. They do not have a monopoly on our hatred of jews and if we ourselves deem them worthy of being destroyed so be it. Frankly I hope they all kill each other."

Doesn't that sound like the type of thing "white nationalists" would have no problem with? But what you will get is a torrent of:
>NO you don't understand moslem did nothing wrong only jew is bad
>Found the mossad agent
>Oh look, (you) want us to die for israel!
>Whites are weak and pathetic and too weak to fight jews like based hamas,
>Islam is actually quite based about women
>Did you know persians are the original whites?

Also any respect shown to the US military or attempt to imply white people are capable of doing anything right will be met with all sort of "COPE COPE COPE WEST FALLEN" type shit. Nobody is THIS demoralized. If you don't blame the jew for everything bad that happens you're not good enough for them. Frankly all of 4chan is shit brown and anybody who hasn't figured this out by now is retarded.
So what is making people worry about the US getting involved? All I'm seeing in the news (albeit from a fast check) is Israel and Iran firing missiles at each other. Not sure what Israel expected to happen here but they are known for overestimating themselves. I'm not even being cheeky here because I've been out all day. Please spoonfeed me.
See above, the sentiment of wanting the US to not get involved in bullshit is real and justified. But a prodigious horde of turd world posters have figured out they can use that sentiment to try and cuck westerners into thinking we can't do anything about anything ever again. And you know how turd world posters are, if even the slightest thing related to something happens then the absolute worst case scenario of that thing is 100% happening and anybody who questions said narrative sucks mossad cock.
 
Liberty incident was in all likelihood a legitimate case of mistaken identity stemming from a combination of fog of war and the miscommunication and poor coordination that arose from a combatant using a combination of modern warplanes and WWII signals and comms equipment. In fact, an almost identical incident played out just a few years later.
Even if it was a case of mistaken identity, every last survivor of the attack says it was deliberate. There was also an attempt by the House to censure Israel, but it fizzled out.
 
That is, affordable housing units, a.k.a. slum. If Henry doesn’t sell the farm, bureauweenies say they will confiscate it. Another small piece of America will die.
Eminent Domain is the single, and only, worst thing put into the Constitution. It needed so much more clarification to prevent abuse than anything else, including the 2nd and 10th. States have already passed a ton of ED amendments or laws themselves yet it's still not enough, if we must have it at all then it must be discouraged in entirety. Either have the monetary "fair market" value should be inflated and taken from the pockets of the bureaucrats who sign off on it, or they should not be allowed to make these decisions at all and make it a supermajority vote instead...that still takes the money from the bureaucrats.

Y'know what, lets just fuck bureaucrats anyways.
 
More than half of /pol/ is muslim and has been for sometime now. I think i said this before but you can prove it with a simple experiment.

Next time you see a jew seethe thread involving the middle east say something like "yeah guys kikes are the worst for sure! But let's not forget that arabs and muslims are subhuman scum as well and should be killed be it in western nations in their own. They do not have a monopoly on our hatred of jews and if we ourselves deem the worthy of being destroyed so be it. Frankly I hope they all kill each other."

Doesn't that sound like the type of think "white nationalists" would have no problem with? But what you will get is a torrent of:
>NO you don't understand moslem did nothing wrong only jew is bad
>Found the mossad agent
>Oh look, (you) want us to die for israel!
>Whites are weak and pathetic and too weak to fight jews like based hamas,
>Islam is actually quite based about women
>Did you know persians are the original whites?

Also any respect shown to the US military or attempt to imply white people are capable of doing anything right will be met with all sort of "COPE COPE COPE" type shit. Nobody is THIS demorazlized, frankly all of 4chan is shit brown and anybody who hasn't figured this out by now is retarded.
It's why I don't give a fuck about DA JOOS mostly. Their enemies are brown pedophiles with room temperature IQ's that kill Americans. Yeah, fuck it. Hope you guys enjoy the 2000 pound bombs. Stop fucking up online discourse with your sand war.
 
It's why I don't give a fuck about DA JOOS mostly. Their enemies are brown pedophiles with room temperature IQ's that kill Americans. Yeah, fuck it. Hope you guys enjoy the 2000 pound bombs. Stop fucking up online discourse with your sand war.
And slightly less brown pedophiles milking your country dry before the collapse is better???
 
the saudis sent a bunch of their boys to fuck up the US in a (potentially false flag) terrorist attack, and bush used this to capitalize and take the opportunity to depose saddam for real.
Yeah but then again, do you think the Saudis really controlled Osama? I remeber an interview years ago of a wife of one of Osama's brothers (who happened to be a white woman - they had met at a US university) and she said the guy was a complete nutjob and a recluse and that he basically fucked off into the mountains at some point and nobody heard from him for years. Granted she is not exactly a security expert but on the other hand it's not like the Saudi government is particularly keen to rely on islamists, the king and his father are hanging these guys left and right. If they wanted a US intervention in Iraq, they could just ask. Trump is giving them money to blow up the Houtis at the moment in exchange for oil. Did the king really need to blow up the towers, you think?
 
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The goal of leftist protests isn't to change minds, but to force narratives on non-leftists.
as Sapir-Whorfists, they literally want to change your mind by changing your speech. All politically correct speech comes from the idea that it is speech that colors your reality. For example, changing the term illegal alien to illegal immigrants to undocumented immigrants to undocumented noncitizen to unauthorized immigrants to undocumented migrant. the idea is that illegal alien is too harsh of a term that others the person and stigmatizes them from society so they created this euphemism to humanize this person that disgusts you. It's the same for retard, faggot, tranny and every other word liberals have a problem with. The continued progression of euphemisms is why strict Sapir-Whorf fell out of favor with a lot of academics because its obvious that the thing itself exists as it does regardless of the word people use for it.


tl;dr: they believe that words are magic and so they shout peaceful protest because that diminishes the violence (however violent) that occurs. Both for you and them.

Have these riots actually amounted to anything anywhere? There is way too much to keep track of right now, but from what I hear from friends, it's a minor temper tantrum where they live compared to the 2020 summer of love.

think the blue cities learned the right lesson from BLM because the cops are going all out to keep the riots in check. there's no summer of love quote for these riots or romanticization of burning tires and buildings. as soon as the protest gets violent, the cops roll in and people leave.
 
American army has been slipping for a long time before free falling during Biden's term for letting them hang out to dry in Afghanistan and pushing the DEI stuff hard. Showing the public the cool uniforms, gear, and toys the army gets to play with could inspire some to join up. Still a long way to go, but having a parade honoring the army's history is a pretty good start. Staying out of every little war that doesn’t involve the security if America another good step too. Focusing the adds on the army turning you into a mean, green, killing machine is another good move. I believe by the end of Vances first term, we will see a much more patriotic and able army.
This is true, but also a mixture of no real results of Afghanistan and Iraq, along with a general swing towards some fringe right-wing ideals (at least online) like dying for Israel, becoming more popularized. I honestly don't think the DEI and the Afghanistan pullout did that much damage. From looking around and having some friends in some of the biggest, it mainly lack of confidence within the military and America in general, people saw how troops who saw combat were treated by the government, Toxic leadership within the military, QOL is not the greatest (Outside of the Air Force), and for girls, sexual assault is pretty high. I mentioned people only join nowadays for the benefits, and i am not against that, if a job has decent X you'd go for it also. Sure, they made their numbers this year but they also had lower-quality people signing up and retention is still low. I don't really see any positives. I do think stuff like parades and social media might fix that but the quality is only going to go down hill.

Also the military added something in 2022 called Genesis, where they look at all your medical history and has been known to DQ a good amount of applicants over the smallest of issues
 
Yeah but then again, do you think the Saudis really controlled Osama? I remeber an interview years ago of a wife of one of Osama's brothers (who happened to be a white woman - they had met at a US university) and she said the guy was a complete nutjob and a recluse and that he basically fucked off into the mountains at some point and nobody heard from him for years. Granted she is not exactly a security expert but on the other hand it's not like the Saudi government is particularly keen to rely on islamists, the king and his father are hanging these guys left and right. If they wanted a US intervention in Iraq, they could just ask. Trump is giving them money to blow up the Houtis at the moment in exchange for oil. Did the king really need to blow up the towers, you think?
Part of the issue/way the conspiracy goes is that there's a lot of cloak and dagger bullshit going on between the various Princes behind the scenes to determine control and the future of the Kingdom. So while MBS might have consolidated power now and its putting the pinch on the Wahabbists, that wasn't the case in the late 90's early 2000's (during this period the Kingdom was literally funding Wahabbi clerics to set up shop and radicalize local populations in places like Africa and Asia).

So basically, the theory is Osama/al-Qaeda was being used by one faction to further the ends they had for Saudi Arabia both domestically and internationally.
 
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