2025 Israel vs Iran War

Doinker Marmalade said:
Iran is a HUGE country, and they are likely to concentrate their most valuable AA assets in the middle of bumb-fuck nowhere, where no cameras will be filming.

The thing about AA is, if it works well, you never hear about it.
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Israel is flying right over those areas to get to Tehran, Qom, Isfahan, Natanz, Mashhad, and nothing ever gets in their way. Probably because the SAMs were blown up Friday night. Israel doesn't have AGMs that can go all the way from Iraq to Tehran much less a place like Mashhad. It does have to fly into Iran with its planes, drones don't carry enough explosives for many of the explosions we've seen deep inside Iran
merpalerpaherp said:
You're not going to use SAMs on drones, and probably not going to use them on planes if using them means your SAM site gets blown up. It is likely they have SAMs still, they're just not going to use them until they see a favorable or desparate situation. One plane at the cost of it for PR is not worth it at this stage.
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So they might as well not exist because they aren't going to be used except at the last extremity. How this does not decrease the strength of Iranian air defense is a mystery I guess
 
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Rootless Cosmopolitan said:
There’s been a ton of propaganda in the West saying that Russia has only got old equipment, Russian shit doesn’t work, Russia is surely going to at any minute lose, etc.

I’m not surprised that a lot of people aren’t aware that Ukraine is frequently being hit with high tech/precise modern missiles
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It's been interesting to see the stark difference in media coverage of this versus Ukraine/Russia.
 
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Mawlana Khameini may have turned this into a win, imagine this: You back out of nuclear negotiations with Muttland and the very next day 4 of your generals responsible for your overseas activities get killed, 2 nuclear scientists killed, and several nuclear facilities bombed and add onto that the fact that you're AA infrastructure is getting hit, and 2 days later you've turned the situation around and are hitting da jooz so hard that Muttland is threatening to step in. If I was the Ayatollah, I'd back out now while I'm still in the lead, flex our muscle on how we managed to get the Kikes to run to America for help, but more importantly rearm and repair the IRGC. This strike demonstrated the weakness of Iran's counter-intelligence and air defense, for Khameini this is a golden opportunity to reshuffle the deck and turn his intel agency into Mossad 2,0, since the MidEastern Cold War won't be won with just proxies, you have to have solid intel too.
 
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draggs said:
Israel is flying right over those areas to get to Tehran, Qom, Isfahan, Natanz, Mashhad, and nothing ever gets in their way. Probably because the SAMs were blown up Friday night. Israel doesn't have AGMs that can go all the way from Iraq to Tehran much less a place like Mashhad. It does have to fly into Iran with its planes, drones don't carry enough explosives for many of the explosions we've seen deep inside Iran
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Are you a high ranking IAF officer who has access to all this info, or are you literally just talking out of your ass?
NOTHING gets in their way, really? Those are some bold statements. You asked me for evidence of European/NATO tankers refueling Israeli planes and I provided evidence, where's your evidence there's NO air defense over Iran whatsoever at all?
 
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Doinker Marmalade said:
Are you a high ranking IAF officer who has access to all this info, or are you literally just talking out of your ass?
NOTHING gets in their way, really? Those are some bold statements. You asked me for evidence of European/NATO tankers refueling Israeli planes and I provided evidence, where's your evidence there's NO air defense over Iran whatsoever at all?
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You didn't provide any evidence you sperged about some random Lufthansa air tanker and an RAF air tanker that you said were blah blah blah but you didn't provide any deets at all like where they were doing it (it would have to be over Iraq or eastern Syria, wouldn't it? Got any flight tracking to show that?) you just said 'tankers in the air obviously they are refueling Israeli planes trust me bro pls bro pls'

Yes dummy nothing gets in their way because Israel keeps hitting a large number of targets and there is not a word about Iran doing anything that makes them decide maybe we won't hit this target today let's turn around

Where's your evidence that there is any air defense over Iran at all lol, Israel continuing to bomb Tehran and other places multiple times a day and all we get are videos of tracer rounds going up in the sky and shit blowing up on the ground? I guess if you wanna count AA guns that are decent against drones but can't do shit against modern planes as air defense go ahead, I'm sure that is making Iran feel better when Israel successfully hits another air force HQ/intelligence HQ/oil depot/munitions depot like the hundred other big targets it already hit. I guess Iran is stupid and likes those places blowing up
 
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Welfare Bum said:
Look at the trails of smoke from where the interceptors launched. The impact looked directly next to it followed by some secondary ignition.
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From what I've seen in Ukraine, SAM secondary explosions tend to be super weak and small, since AD missiles carry a pretty small payload.

There's usually lots of streaks of white smoke around the detonation, as opposed to a big fiery boom.

The recent misfire is a perfect example:
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draggs said:
You didn't provide any evidence you sperged about some random Lufthansa air tanker and an RAF air tanker that you said were blah blah blah but you didn't provide any deets at all like where they were doing it (it would have to be over Iraq or eastern Syria, wouldn't it? Got any flight tracking to show that?) you just said 'tankers in the air obviously they are refueling Israeli planes trust me bro pls bro pls'
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Are you too seriously retarded to look at the lines drawn in the map that show the planes CLEARLY in Jordanian airspace at the time Israel was attacking for the first time?

Do you need me to redraw the lines in crayon for you or something?

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Just a couple of videos of Israel getting fucking rocked. I'm hearing that the Iron Dome is struggling due to the sheer volume, but I have no way if knowing if any of that is true and I doubt the kikes or muslims would be honest about it.
 
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Verloren said:
Just a couple of videos of Israel getting fucking rocked. I'm hearing that the Iron Dome is struggling due to the sheer volume, but I have no way if knowing if any of that is true and I doubt the kikes or muslims would be honest about it.
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Supposedly the Iranians are calibrating their attacks to get more through with fewer launches
 
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