2025 Israel vs Iran War

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Doinker Marmalade said:
Are you too seriously retarded to look at the lines drawn in the map that show the planes CLEARLY in Jordanian airspace at the time Israel was attacking for the first time?

Do you need me to redraw the lines in crayon for you or something?

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Except both those planes use probe-and-drogue refueling. Which the IAF doesn't use for its planes. It uses boom refueling. It uses probe-and-drogue for helicopter refueling. IAF uses its 707s (boom refueling) for planes and the KC-130s (probe and drogue refueling) for rotary aircraft
 
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draggs said:
Except both those planes use probe-and-drogue refueling. Which the IAF doesn't use for its planes. It uses boom refueling. It uses probe-and-drogue for helicopter refueling. IAF uses its 707s (boom refueling) for planes and the KC-130s (probe and drogue refueling) for rotary aircraft
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The F-35 can't, but the F-16 and F-15 can... are you gonna stop obfuscating and admit I was right now?
 
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Doinker Marmalade said:
The F-35 can't, but the F-16 and F-15 can... are you gonna stop obfuscating and admit I was right now?
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Oh, they "can." Well that settles it. "Can" and "did" are synonyms after all. More like Israel used its 707s to refuel F-16s (like there is video of over Syria) and F-15s while the F-35s used the conformal external fuel tanks Israel bragged about having a few years ago
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please point to me where the refueling probes on the F-16 and F-15 are
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They "can" only if they've been modified with CARTS
 
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A gigantic US Air Force deployment is currently underway, with over 20 aerial refueling tankers moving across the ocean, along with many more military assets as Netanyahu pushes Trump to join Israel's war on Iran.I am certain that Trump does not want the US directly engaged in the war, that he fantasizes about winning a Nobel Prize by ending it, and that in any case, he is too mentally lazy to manage such a conflict.It is also clear that his base has no desire to fight any neocon war of choice for Israel. America First influencers like Tucker Carlson and MTG are now escalating their opposition because they know that it will sabotage what's left of Trump's domestic agenda.But there may be little they can do. The fact is that Trump is bought and bossed by the Zionist billionaire class. And after two assassination attempts, he is reluctant to defy a mob boss like Miriam Adelson or the malevolent forces she represents.Indeed, Trump trembles before the Israeli assets in his camp. He's like a deer in the headlights of a Merkava tank. And he is not only weak, but delusional enough to believe he can change the subject to immigration or some other culture war fixation after acceding to Netanyahu's maniacal demands.Which means that in the next 48 hours, Trump could greenlight a psychotic regime change war that no country in the world other than Israel wants, which will multiply the human misery of the region one hundred fold, tank the global economy, place a target on American backs, and ensure him a place among history's greatest losers.
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Trump is a loser. Are these planes for the war or a military excercise that was planned? Which I saw someone mention somewhere on here.
 
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draggs said:
Oh, they "can." Well that settles it. "Can" and "did" are synonyms after all.
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For the love of Christ.

Yes, the RAF and Luftwaffe are going to fly their very expensive, valuable and vulnerable tankers in the middle of an armed conflict just for funsies, tee hee! Just taking a little stroll.

Nothing to see here! Just a tanker in the path of returning planes who just bombed Iran... us? Nah, we're just having a joyride here m8... we did a little holding pattern before flying in a straight line in a way resembling refueling? Well, you can't really PROVE we refueled, huh? Where's the pictures? :smug:
 
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Doinker Marmalade said:
For the love of Christ.

Yes, the RAF and Luftwaffe are going to fly their very expensive, valuable and vulnerable tankers in the middle of an armed conflict just for funsies, tee hee! Just taking a little stroll.

Nothing to see here! Just a tanker in the path of returning planes who just bombed Iran... us? Nah, we're just having a joyride here m8... we did a little holding pattern before flying in a straight line in a way resembling refueling? Well, you can't really PROVE we refueled, huh? Where's the pictures? :smug:
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The British plane is at 2232 UTC June 14. 10:32 PM in your screenshot. That's more than a day after the first big attack. You said these planes were used for that. The German plane at least is the right day, but it's also at 20:59 UTC June 13. 8:59 PM in your screenshot. The big Israeli strike with 200 fighters that you said needed the extra refueling happened in the very early hours of June 13. That is, more than 40 hours before your British plane was flying over Jordan, and 12-20ish hours before your German plane was flying over Jordan. Those planes could line up with returning Israeli planes timewise but not for the attacks you have said they were returning from. Reportedly the F-35s didn't need refueling at all because of the conformal external tanks and most of the planes used were F-35s. So was it really unpossible for Israel to refuel the F-16s and F-15s used with only its own 707 tankers?
 
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I wonder how the general public in Israel are taking this? This is the first time really that the country has been hit back with more than a few homemade rockets. The perception of the invincible Iron Dome has been shattered...and Bibi isn't exactly popular.
It's all fun and games when you're bulldozing Gaza, or taking shots on inactive hardware in Syria. It's a different kettle of fish when a hypersonic smashes into Tel Aviv.
 
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draggs said:
The British plane is at 2232 UTC June 14. 10:32 PM in your screenshot. That's more than a day after the first big attack. You said these planes were used for that. The German plane at least is the right day, but it's also at 20:59 UTC June 13. 8:59 PM in your screenshot. The big Israeli strike with 200 fighters that you said needed the extra refueling happened in the very early hours of June 13. That is, more than 40 hours before your British plane was flying over Jordan, and 12-20ish hours before your German plane was flying over Jordan. Those planes could line up with returning Israeli planes timewise but not for the attacks you have said they were returning from
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Oh yeah absolutely nit-pick irrelevant little details like this. It could have been for ANY attack, but you said, CATEGORICALLY, that NO US, British, French, or German tankers refueled Israeli warplanes.

I am showing you that there is solid evidence that they might have, >95% chance that they did.
 
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