TGWTG Nostalgia Chick / Lindsay Ellis / TheDudette - aka Hotdogs in face girl

[S@credC]

What I mean by this is that everything about Lindsay's acts of racism and bigotry seems like typical left-wing social posts that get brought up in a cancel campaign. Or posted here to laugh at. Just a bunch of stuff that affects somebody in a way where it can be described as "first world problems," and the worst attack is probably on the ego.

Feels like a good time to contribute to the thread by sharing some of the gems from Lindsay's Raya Last Dragon Cancellation (in loose chronological order):

 

[KuwabaraTheMan]

Are you retards still on about that? Give it a rest.

 

[Ninon42]

Her promised forthcoming video on the Weimar Republic and troonery isn't going to help the allegations, is it lol

 

[Arthur Morgan]

Are you retards still on about that? Give it a rest.

Did you not see the previous page where we talked about the abortion she got in 2009?

Also it's still funny. I don't know if Lindsay is a nazi or a racist, but she is out of touch with the liberal crowd she so desperately wanted to be a part of and a leader of. Pretty sure the main reason she wanted her old Nostalgia Chick videos down (Which I've reuploaded more than half of) is because she gives a lot of opinions that wouldn't fly today.

 

[Eventide]

What I mean by this is that everything about Lindsay's acts of racism and bigotry seems like typical left-wing social posts that get brought up in a cancel campaign. Or posted here to laugh at. Just a bunch of stuff that affects somebody in a way where it can be described as "first world problems," and the worst attack is probably on the ego.

Wait, so what you're saying is Holocaust denial is now a common belief amongst far left socialists/tankies? Genuinely asking, not being sarcastic - I can't say I interact with many tankies. & in Oklahoma, Holocaust deniers generally aren't leftists.

Anyways, in Lindsay adjacent news, her Iranian supremacist friend is quite distressed about Israel bombing his beloved home country:

Spoiler: lol Persia peaked in the BC

Is Kaveh related to an Ayatollah or something? Aren't the vast majority of American Persian diaspora generally pro bombing-the-fuck out of Iran's current regime?

Also, LOL at him being so fucking retarded, he's upset about a Jewish country using lion symbolism

 

[Fagatron Over 9000]

is Holocaust denial is now a common belief amongst far left socialists/tankies?

Don't think so yet, but they're on the way. They already believe that Israel was created solely because Jewish people abused "Holocaust guilt" to force the countries into defending them or whatever, so it won't be long before people start saying the entire 'caust was made fun for Jew sympathy

 

[Random Internet Person]

Wait, so what you're saying is Holocaust denial is now a common belief amongst far left socialists/tankies? Genuinely asking, not being sarcastic - I can't say I interact with many tankies. & in Oklahoma, Holocaust deniers generally aren't leftists.

Don't think so yet, but they're on the way. They already believe that Israel was created solely because Jewish people abused "Holocaust guilt" to force the countries into defending them or whatever, so it won't be long before people start saying the entire 'caust was made fun for Jew sympathy

I don’t think that’s a thing. The most Lindsay and Hasan and those types would probably do is go on about Zionism to give their points of “Jews control the world and they always have” a bend that doesn’t come across as unhinged InfoWars lunacy. Assuming they’re ever forced into that position since their stance has always been the people of Palestine fighting an imperial force (oddly enough, I haven’t seen Star Wars be brought into this)

 

[Fagatron Over 9000]

I agree it's probably not a twitch type of leftist belief but it's a thing amongst the tankies right now. If Hasan ever goes full tank I'd be surprised.

 

[Eventide]

I don’t think that’s a thing. The most Lindsay and Hasan and those types would probably do is go on about Zionism to give their points of “Jews control the world and they always have” a bend that doesn’t come across as unhinged InfoWars lunacy. Assuming they’re ever forced into that position since their stance has always been the people of Palestine fighting an imperial force (oddly enough, I haven’t seen Star Wars be brought into this)

??? But you're forgetting Lindsay openly questioned the Holocaust in her Cabaret musical podcast episode (the very last podcast episode she produced. I guess no one else wanted to podcast with her about musicals if she was gonna turn them into Holocaust denial 'sperging fests). She questioned the official death count/gas chamber veracity (she needed to see more evidence), made a gorillian joke, and ended the podcast by implying Nazi Germany was actually controlled by the Jews, who than went on to found Israel. Lindsay got called out on Jewish subreddits and Jumblr (i.e. Jewish Tumblr user groups, not a pejorative like Jewtube) for her crazy statements.

I'm not calling Lindsay a Holocaust denier as a joke or to a-log. She legit denied (or at least, heavily questioned) the Holocaust.

 

[Random Internet Person]

??? But you're forgetting Lindsay openly questioned the Holocaust in her Cabaret musical podcast episode (the very last podcast episode she produced. I guess no one else wanted to podcast with her about musicals if she was gonna turn them into Holocaust denial 'sperging fests). She questioned the official death count/gas chamber veracity (she needed to see more evidence), made a gorillian joke, and ended the podcast by implying Nazi Germany was actually controlled by the Jews, who than went on to found Israel. Lindsay got called out on Jewish subreddits and Jumblr (i.e. Jewish Tumblr user groups, not a pejorative like Jewtube) for her crazy statements.

I'm not calling Lindsay a Holocaust denier as a joke or to a-log. She legit denied (or at least, heavily questioned) the Holocaust.

Well, here’s the actual episode. Let people listen for themselves.

https://open.spotify.com/episode/5YawPRptV0OMuOnOFxp1X6?si=2Uxe4bqeScODiBDfu2D-ww

 

[Eventide]

There's also this old post (from 2019) claiming Lindsay was an active user of the Iron March forums

View attachment 1003274

Members of violent white supremacist website exposed in massive data dump

I'd love for Era to cross reference that email list with its member data. I bet you it wouldn't turn up 0 hits. I just tried to access the list but it seems to have been taken down?

www.resetera.com

Kuma, I found the emails of Lindsay Ellis and ContraPoints in this dump, so we have Nazi trannies and their enablers trying to oppress us. Stay safe.

Us Kiwis will keep you safe from the Nazis





@CrunkLord420 Cheebo should have been added to the VIP section a while ago

VIP List

resetera.kiwifarms.net

I contacted the poster of this (hopefully he's still active on the farms). No idea how to search the datadump/where it is today.

 

[Oilspill Battery]

??? But you're forgetting Lindsay openly questioned the Holocaust in her Cabaret musical podcast episode (the very last podcast episode she produced. I guess no one else wanted to podcast with her about musicals if she was gonna turn them into Holocaust denial 'sperging fests). She questioned the official death count/gas chamber veracity (she needed to see more evidence), made a gorillian joke, and ended the podcast by implying Nazi Germany was actually controlled by the Jews, who than went on to found Israel. Lindsay got called out on Jewish subreddits and Jumblr (i.e. Jewish Tumblr user groups, not a pejorative like Jewtube) for her crazy statements.

I'm not calling Lindsay a Holocaust denier as a joke or to a-log. She legit denied (or at least, heavily questioned) the Holocaust.

Can you drop some timestamps for the podcast? Its one and a half hours long.

 

[urr13 account]

Can you drop some timestamps for the podcast? Its one and a half hours long.

Skimming through and trying to find, at 52 minutes in Ellis says that "even at their worst the germans were more progressive than we (america) are now" so its probably coming up.

 

[Hemlock Latte]

Not replying to individual posts, just a few too many, pardon.

The gist of what I want to say is, no, I don't think that Holocaust denial is prevalent on the left, nor is it poised to be. What is prevalent on the left is criticism of what Norman Finkelstein (himself the child of Holocaust survivors) dubbed "the Holocaust industry," in short, presenting the Holocaust as though it was singularly bad among genocides to garner sympathy that can be traded in for political clout. Israeli and American Zionists, some Jewish, some Christian, weaponize the legacy of the Holocaust. The Holocaust happened and it was horrible, but it was one of numerous other, horrible genocides in the twentieth century and into the twenty-first: Armenia, Myanmar, Rwanda, Bosnia, Myanmar again, Congo, take your pick. Notable among them that being perpetrated against Palestinians by Israel. Numerous examples of Israeli military figures studying or professing admiration for Nazis and their values and tactics. I think for a lot of Israelis "Never Again" has come to mean "Never Again for Israelis." Will some uncritical leftists skip from this outlook into outright Holocaust denial? Sure, people are dumb and misinformation abounds. But I wouldn't bank on it becoming a popular outlook.

What is becoming more common among liberals and centre-rights is Holocaust denial focussing on minorities other than Jews. Have seen numerous attempts to deny that the Holocaust had any significant portion of LGBT+ victims. Even J.K. Rowling recently trafficked in this to widespread and justified public disapproval.

 

[Boston Brand]

I feel the need to speak up as a member of the tribe.

So, the Holocaust WAS different from most genocide, in that it was an industrial scaled mass killing. Most genocide look like the Holodomor or Cultural Revolution - mass starvation and suffering caused by incompetence or sabotage - or like Rwanda or Armenia, ie, mass killings as fast as possible. The Holocaust was PROFESSIONAL. It did to genocide what the assembly line did for factories.

That's a big part of what scared the hell out of the WWII generation. Genocide carried professionally, efficiently and effectively, rather that mere hatred and violence or incompetence.

As for why Lefties now hate Jews and deny the Holocaust? We are white coded to them, and they hate white people, and all white people are evil oppressors of poor victimized brown people.

Which is why so many lefties simp for a gang of hyperviolent ragheads like the Palestinians, whose only delay in killing most westerners would be debating to rape them first, while carrying out violence against Jews, who were until recently, often reliably left wing.

 

[Hemlock Latte]

So much apology. You don't need to convince me that the Holocaust was industrialized to a greater extent than most genocides, and will find no argument from me there. The circumstances of each genocide or mass killing are bound to be different. But I don't believe for a second that the Holocaust was the only example of a "professional, efficient, and effective" genocide in late modern history. For one, your counterexamples are misleading. Chalking the Holodomor up to incompetence lets Stalin off far too easily. And what about the American (and to a lesser extent Canadian) hiring of thugs to scalp indigenous people? The Canadian (and to a lesser extent American) rounding up of (remaining) indigenous people into schools, numbered, deloused and ready to be assimilated, provided they didn't first succumb to the TB, malnutrition, and wonton sex abuse in those institutions? Was that not "professional, efficient, and effective" enough for you? In fact, the current Israeli genocide is quite possibly more "professional, efficient, and effective" than the Holocaust itself. The imperial boomerang in full effect, testing new chemical, military, and surveillance tecnologies on a wholly impoverished and defeated underclass. Tens of thousands dead in less than two years, over half women and children. Cope harder.

 

[KuwabaraTheMan]

You retards just keep going on and on about this.

 

[Boston Brand]

So much apology. You don't need to convince me that the Holocaust was industrialized to a greater extent than most genocides, and will find no argument from me there. The circumstances of each genocide or mass killing are bound to be different. But I don't believe for a second that the Holocaust was the only example of a "professional, efficient, and effective" genocide in late modern history. For one, your counterexamples are misleading. Chalking the Holodomor up to incompetence lets Stalin off far too easily. And what about the American (and to a lesser extent Canadian) hiring of thugs to scalp indigenous people? The Canadian (and to a lesser extent American) rounding up of (remaining) indigenous people into schools, numbered, deloused and ready to be assimilated, provided they didn't first succumb to the TB, malnutrition, and wonton sex abuse in those institutions? Was that not "professional, efficient, and effective" enough for you? In fact, the current Israeli genocide is quite possibly more "professional, efficient, and effective" than the Holocaust itself. The imperial boomerang in full effect, testing new chemical, military, and surveillance tecnologies on a wholly impoverished and defeated underclass. Tens of thousands dead in less than two years, over half women and children. Cope harder.

The Native Americans are your example?

90 percent of the natives died of old world disease before a single English-speaker set foot here. We killed a few shell shocked survivors in a number of Indian Wars - more than half of which they started - and those "scalp hunts" you refer to killed maybe a few hundred across centuries.

And at the end of the day, they were stone age savages facing a society thousands of years more advanced. Just look at history to see those never end well for the primitive.

As for the Palestinians, no sympathy. This is what, the 8th war they've started with Israel? Maybe this time they'll lose badly enough that they don't think a few dead Jews are worth getting bombed to rubble.

I digress.

What made the Holocaust so unique was execution - the Holodomor and Cultural Revolution killed more people, but largely by causing famine. Cruel, but very different from an industrial process planned to the last detail, from the railcars to pilfering tooth fillings.

It turned genocide into a process no different or difficult than producing a BMW.

Save maybe Cambodia - which was akin to a mass suicide cult - it was unique in the mass genocides of the 20th century in that regard, and would have been impossible to execute on such a scale in prior centuries.

 

[Random Internet Person]

You retards just keep going on and on about this.

Well, Lindsay sure isn't doing much of anything last I checked. And she still hasn't released anything outside the paywall in ages by Internet standards. And if you want to blame anybody for this going on, blame @Eventide.

 

[The Hardest R]

I hate to defend Lindsay of all people but I find the thought that she is some raging holocaust denier to be one of the more retarded theories I’ve read on KF. I think to the extent Lindsay has thought about it at all is unlikely to go beyond the standard breadtube maxim that whoever has more melanin content is by default the oppressed and whoever has less melanin content is by default the oppressor. @Eventide has put more thought (and I’m really stretching this word because her(?) thought process is completely incoherent) into this than Lindsay ever has.