2025 Israel vs Iran War

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Thanks for explaining heeb. Shouldn't you be bug chasing in a bomb shelter?
It's more fun seeing people like you seethe.

Trump: I have no desire to negotiate with Iran. I expect nothing less than their complete surrender. (Amit Segal)

Not directly related but there are rumors that China agreed to a resupply for Pakistan (to support Iran?) and mobilized reserve units in the Western Military Command.
I doubt it, China doesn't have much interest outside of themselves. I think the resupply is post conflict rearmament
 
Iran's state-owned Bank Sepah has been hacked. ATMs are non-functional nationwide:
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Also given the furious screaming about das juden I moseyed in on this morning, I take it that the promised "biggest and most violent missle attack in history" last night did not go as planned
 
It's more fun seeing people like you seethe.

Trump: I have no desire to negotiate with Iran. I expect nothing less than their complete surrender. (Amit Segal)


I doubt it, China doesn't have much interest outside of themselves. I think the resupply is post conflict rearmament
Its not seething. Just enjoying Israeli desperation and trying to control narrative. Hamas Chad's not dicking your girl down enough?
 
These people are fucking DUMB

Why is the chart formatted left to right when Hebrew is read right to left?
Arabic is also formatted this way in charts so whatever.

Anywho while it is obviously fake I believe the intent is to push the very true narrative that somewhere out there such a real document does exist.
 
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It's really the Israelis begging for Trump's big orange missile since they don't like tiny Iranian ones.
But somehow, having a laugh at both pathetic countries while sitting in a chair on the other side of the world is seething.

If you want to see who's actually malding, check the profiles of the most notorious schlomogobblers in this thread.
Oh wait, you can't. They're all private. :story:
It gets better than that. There are accounts just negrating everything you posted in a thread and you see them like a stream going thru every page. People treat this like reddit. I got like 50 negative tags just from this guy.
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I take it that the promised "biggest and most violent missle attack in history" last night did not go as planned
Iran is developing strategies to counter anti air that're working and got a few good hits in. They essentially found that volleys of 20-30 will guarantee 3-6 missiles get through. Hit a military intelligence warehouse, a news building, and area outside Mossad HQ.


Just enjoying Israeli desperation and trying to control narrative
You mean posting what's been hit in Israel with coordinates and giving an opinion on it?


Hamas Chad's not dicking your girl down enough?
Mutts law in action.


I believe the intent is to push the very true narrative that somewhere out there such a real document does exist
It's an Iranian distributed document that's part of the fake intelligence leak they claim to have. We've been over Samson option here before, no point rehashing
 
Iran is developing strategies to counter anti air that're working and got a few good hits in. They essentially found that volleys of 20-30 will guarantee 3-6 missiles get through. Hit a military intelligence warehouse, a news building, and area outside Mossad HQ.
Pretty much everything got thru last time a barrage occurred. The dome is absolutely imaginary now.
 
Good evening, first time in this thread thought I'd offer my unwelcome twopence. Benjamin Netanyahu is a charlatan, a psychopath and a pussyhole. Anyone who believes an imaginary man in the sky granted them the privilege of land can't be positioned as the person of reason around who should or should not have nuclear weapons. The same way I wouldn't trust any other religious fundamentalist (including the Iranian regime) to hold the pen.
 
I find this pretty fascinating because just like in the Ukraine conflict both sides attempt to control the narrative. Even though we have reels of random smartphone footage it is difficult to piece together the reality of it all.

Even if you were personally in Israel or Iran you wouldn't really know the extent of it any better than someone not in the country.
 
I remember watching this months ago and it was even more accurate than I remember
Israel got a really lucky break with the fall of Assad. They've been planning this for 15 years trying to figure out how to get past one of the densest AA setup in the world and suddenly it didn't matter anymore.

They also got lucky with Hezbollah/Hamas. Fucked up as it is to say, Oct 7th had a huge benefit in that it allowed Israel to neuter both those groups. It's arguable that the only reason Israel can bomb Iran now is because Hezbollah is so buck broken that it doesn't want to fight and Hamas is just suppressed.

Mossad did a great job too.
 
Primary: Israel will allow the US to use Iran's air space.
This was a subtle and hilarious joke and I don't want it go unnoticed.

Not directly related but there are rumors that China agreed to a resupply for Pakistan (to support Iran?) and mobilized reserve units in the Western Military Command.
Pakistan is on the outs with Iran. They are very seldom friends with unresolved border disputes. Resupplying Pakistan means giving Pakistan the means to stand against Iran, which is important deescalation for a nuclear power and a near-nuclear power.

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These guys don't understand the world at all. Does he not realize how much military aid China gives to Israel?
Cope and Seethe you love to see it "Why isn't CCP-senpai coming to bail us out?"
Beasue China doesn't want Iran to have the bomb any more than the US.

Cpr
Clearly the people have spoke totally support all things kyke
Coincidentally 81% of Republicans and 80% of democrat politicians are funded by the Isreal lobby.

I get the impression that barring some quasi official mosques and tomb pilgrimages, Shia Islam in Iran is now relatively weak with small mosques closing. State Religion means the regime and religion is inextricably connected, tho there would be under reported factions among the clergy.
I'm going to try to tl;dr this (I startd too last time and got distracted)
Iran went Shia to try to overthow the Ottoman sultan. The Iranian form of Shia, the one the Ayatollah is from, is basically revolutionary where the Sunni and other apostate forms must be overthrown and the correct order of Caliphate succession recognized to properly acknowledge Ali as Mohammed's rightful successor. The root is that their brand of Shia, HQ'ed in Iran, must be the global form of Islam. And naturally all humanity must be brought under Islamic rule.

To adhere to Iranian state Islam is to forcibly hitch yourself to global holy war at some level; the heretics and apostates must be made to reform. Given the global response to post-revolution Iran, this has morphed into a Iran vs the world sort of mentality. So its not that Islam is dying so much as people are growing tired of pointless holy war as their economy crumbles around them. Not going to Friday Prayers is an act of protest against the state not necessarily a lack of faith. Taking this as "Iranians tossing off Islam" is braindead banana-in-asshole levels of atheiod cope.

Additionlly, alot of the smaller mosques were frequented by Iraqi Shia who would leave Sunni-ruled Iraq. Now that Iraq has shucked the Baathists, the Shia are mostly in control so there is less need to come to Iran.


GBU-28 is bunker busting, and can be carried by an F-15 (in IDF inventory).

Maybe I am seriously misunderstanding how hardened Fordow is if you absolutely need GBU-57s to take it out.

EDIT: I just checked, and IDF already had GBU-28s in inventory, so I guess if Israel hasn't hit the place yet, it isn't enough bang.
@draggs covered it. You are misunderstanding how deep and hard (giggity) Fordow is to hit.

Fordow is under 250-300 feet of solid rock plus however much steel-reinforced concrete they used building it. idk how many GBU-27s, -28s, -72s, BLU-109s etc. it would take to blast through that but it'd have to be many dozens. Maybe more. Even a GBU-57 idk I don't think it would be a drop 2-3 and call it a day thing
tl;dr: A GBU-57 even if it didn't penetrate the complex would render it, and the senstive equipment inside, no longer strategically useful to Iran. If there are any people directly under the impact point, unless Iran semismicly isolated the complex (and they might have) they will have their insides liquified by the presure wave even if the facility doesn't have completely crumble.
Any basalt vault will be cracked and potentially catastrophically compromised.

The complex will have a very localized earth quake and while it might be salvagable it will take months to years to get it back into shape.

It is extremely likely if the site is hit we will get some brand new horror stories of "Survivors trapped 500m under ground, unable to be rescured and taking two months for the last survivor to slowly starve and suffocate to death" and the rescue crews that eventually make it to recover the corpses being sworn to take the evidence of cannibalism to their own graves.

BREAKING: Trump wants "a real end" to the nuclear problem with Iran and this morning will find him in the White House Situation Room, monitoring developments in Middle East, he told us during his midnight departure from Canada.
I knew this shit was coming from the moment I learned of Obama's shitty cuck "deal" with Iran. This should have been done last decade.
 
Good evening, first time in this thread thought I'd offer my unwelcome twopence. Benjamin Netanyahu is a charlatan, a psychopath and a pussyhole. Anyone who believes an imaginary man in the sky granted them the privilege of land can't be positioned as the person of reason around who should or should not have nuclear weapons. The same way I wouldn't trust any other religious fundamentalist (including the Iranian regime) to hold the pen.
Thank you for this indispensable, though-provoking post. I don't know what kind of thread this would be if I hadn't read it. Anyone who misses this post will actually miss this nugget of a gem fallen upon us in this thread's discussion.
 
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I have not reached out to Iran for “Peace Talks” in any way, shape, or form. This is just more HIGHLY FABRICATED, FAKE NEWS! If they want to talk, they know how to reach me. They should have taken the deal that was on the table - Would have saved a lot of lives!!!

Feel like it's unlikely no one in his administration has tried communicating with Iran about trying for a peace talk.

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Made me feel like rewatching the bit from earlier today. Since he does make a big point about it'd be fine for him to just give up on getting any ceasefire done. "Giving up entirely, cause that's ok too"

 
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It is extremely likely if the site is hit we will get some brand new horror stories of "Survivors trapped 500m under ground, unable to be rescured and taking two months for the last survivor to slowly starve and suffocate to death" and the rescue crews that eventually make it to recover the corpses being sworn to take the evidence of cannibalism to their own graves.
Yeah that's just dumb take.
Underground installations have emergency escape tunnels as well as bulding tech resistant to ground level attacks.
Beyond some cracks in the concrete, everything inside is most likely untouched.
Seizmic isolation of military sites is almost a given. Americans figured that out in 1950's
All that Israel can really do is bomb transport entrances, show some pictures for propaganda and that's that.
400m under, centrifuges will still be spinning.

However congrats, you just pissed off entire world and showed true colours of israel. Now everyone around will start building offensive capabilities.
 
Pretty much everything got thru last time a barrage occurred. The dome is absolutely imaginary now.
Come on lmao. You're not seeing the footage of interceptions, just hits.


Benjamin Netanyahu is a charlatan, a psychopath and a pussyhole. Anyone who believes an imaginary man in the sky granted them the privilege of land can't be positioned as the person of reason around who should or should not have nuclear weapons
Netanyahu is a secular Jew. The Israeli government is secular. The state was founded by atheists.

I find this pretty fascinating because just like in the Ukraine conflict both sides attempt to control the narrative. Even though we have reels of random smartphone footage it is difficult to piece together the reality of it all.

Even if you were personally in Israel or Iran you wouldn't really know the extent of it any better than someone not in the country.
I work with a third party OSINT group that violates both Israeli and Iranian guidelines on footage. I'm aiming to remain neutral in terms of reporting on hits.

This was a subtle and hilarious joke and I don't want it go unnoticed.
I had the choice of translating it as will allow or as will coordinate, went with the literal translation.


Cope and Seethe you love to see it "Why isn't CCP-senpai coming to bail us out?"
Beasue China doesn't want Iran to have the bomb any more than the US
The Chinese don't care about the affairs of the round eyes


Coincidentally 81% of Republicans and 80% of democrat politicians are funded by the Isreal lobby.
This was a poll of voters

I knew this shit was coming from the moment I learned of Obama's shitty cuck "deal" with Iran. This should have been done last decade
Obama wanted to abandon Israel for Iran. Didn't end up happening thankfully
 
Building defense infrastructure deep underground is the definitive way to neuter the Western strategy. As long as your most important stuff is under 500M of rock they have no chance of destroying it short of infiltration or committing to come in and take it. Exactly like North Korea does.

Speculation that this place is poorly designed and it's already some Fallout vault full of cannibalism is just wild speculation and very unlikely.
 
Oct 7th had a huge benefit in that it allowed Israel to neuter both those groups.
> Blows off terrorist dicks with exploding pagers
"Israel neutered both groups".
Max kek. It is a shame so many are malding to and miss this stuff.

Isn't that a coup? Killing off the entire leadership (i.e. the opposite of a "bloodless" coup)? They've been dropping like flies lately, and even the replacements are getting pruned almost as quickly as they assume office.
No. A coup would require an attempt to take control. Israel is potentially making it easier for any coups to take place. This is an attempt at decapitation or assassination depending on your views on things.

Israel as also, and correct me if I'm wrong, not gone after any elected leaders. Only appointed military ones.

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Those B-2s must be so excited.
They thought they were going to the Boneyard never living up to their purpose before getting replaced by the B-21. Those machine spirits are about to live their best life.


Yeah that's just dumb take.
Underground installations have emergency escape tunnels as well as bulding tech resistant to ground level attacks.
Beyond some cracks in the concrete, everything inside is most likely untouched.
Seizmic isolation of military sites is almost a given. Americans figured that out in 1950's
All that Israel can really do is bomb transport entrances, show some pictures for propaganda and that's that.
400m under, centrifuges will still be spinning.

However congrats, you just pissed off entire world and showed true colours of israel. Now everyone around will start building offensive capabilities.
You assume Iran build thing with safety in mind, and even then - so mines and miners end up trapped when normal mining related accidents happen. I am not taking seismic isolation as a given; yes the US figured that out in the 1950s but Iran is doing their best to go back to the 800s.

And the world won't be pissed off. "Well, non-proliferation is as non-proliferation does..."
 
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