2025 Israel vs Iran War

[DumbDude43]

@Catch The Rainbow
does israel have any official position or doctrine regarding the 'samson option' thing?
the whole "if muslims threaten israel enough then the jews will have a psychotic chimpout and nuke the whole world" thing doesn't feel credible to me

 

[ToEnsureVerification]

Despite what the terminally online would have you believe, a majority of conservatives do support stopping Iran from developing nuclear weapons at any cost. There are a lot of normies out there.

Then what is the objective? Getting rid of Iran's nuclear weapon's capabilities or a regime change (like Bibi and the grandson of the Shah asked for) so that a weak Iran that cannot challenge Saudi Arabian and Israeli interests?

 

[Duke-Diggler]

I understand Iran's nuclear program is dangerous, but is the complete destruction of the Ayatollah's inner circle necessary? Most Iraqis hated Saddam. They wanted him gone no matter who did it. And it worked. Iraq today is simply not a threat to Israel's existence or American interests in the region. What is the endgame here? I don't believe the average Iranian wants Israelis or Westerners running their show. And many who despise the Ayatollah hate us as much if not more than they hate him. And there isn't going to be an occupation of Iran because there is no stomach for one politically. I cannot see how encouraging regime change could produce a better regime in Tehran. I believe the US and Israel are making a terrible mistake.

A lot of kike faggot shills keep missing this point entirely.

We have tried this several times with, Lybia, syria and afghanistan. It all lead to the middle east becoming MORE dangerous and us getting our asses handed to by the Tali-Chads in afghanistan.

More and more they screech about how the "evil" Iran is just "moments away from a nuke" not even realizing now that it'd be fucking retarded now NOT to have a nuke at this rate. All these Neocon faggots are doing is making the middle east MORE dangerous than they already are.

But these Kike fags still want to convince you that bombing the middle east is going to "make it better". It won't It hasn't worked for the past 30 fucking years.

This is why I want to put a star of david next to all these Israeli shills. These dumb kike faggots need to be exposed as mindless shills for a government policy that only benefits the Israeli government and fucks over the average US citizen.

 

[Catch The Rainbow]

in the same breath insist that Iran is only developing nukes to attack Israel,

Because Iran literally has threatened to wipe Israel off the earth, has funded proxy groups dedicated to murdering Israelis, has attempted to murder random Israelis in Europe before, and literally has a countdown clock to the end of Israel in Palestine Square.

Meanwhile Israel sits quietly with their weapons and don't threaten anyone with them. Israel had nukes in 1967 and 1973, two existential wars and they never used those weapons even when it looked like they were going to lose.

 

[merpalerpaherp]

There is only one nation who's policy is "nuke everyone including neutral and allies" in the event of a state failure. Hence why I said hold the entire world hostage. Not even the Russians had a policy that spiteful.

Are you dense? Russia threatens to nuke Ukraine if you give them a 40 year old plane.

 

[Kalsarikännit]

Even if this were true, why should Americans or Israelis want to give a regime that openly hates you, calls for your destruction, and has repeatedly used proxies to kill your people that option? Surely, you'd want to make sure they couldn't have that option if they start acting up, unless you want Iran to have the ability to kill Americans with impunity?

I think they hate America because they know that the US is helping Israel so much. I think if that wasn’t the case, Iran probably wouldn’t give a single shit about the US.

 

[Dawdler]

Despite what the terminally online would have you believe, a majority of conservatives do support stopping Iran from developing nuclear weapons at any cost. There are a lot of normies out there.
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Look, online polls can be manipulated any way a person wants. There's a lot of parties trying to force a narrative right now.

 

[quaawaa]

A different poll saying that only 16% of Americans favor military intervention in Iran:

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[Sexy Peach Emoji]

Even if this were true, why should Americans or Israelis want to give a regime that openly hates you, calls for your destruction, and has repeatedly used proxies to kill your people that option? Surely, you'd want to make sure they couldn't have that option if they start acting up, unless you want Iran to have the ability to kill Americans with impunity?

North Korea does most of the same shit and they've done fuck all.

 

[moocow]

News flash, every country with a nuke will retaliate with them in case it has real danger of destruction. The whole thing is just a hypocritical meme.

No, the Samson Option goes beyond that. The idea is if Israel believes it's doomed as the result of inbound attacks, they will attack as many targets worldwide as possible with their nuclear arsenal. It's not just retaliation against an active enemy, it's "fuck you world, we're taking you with us."

Whether it's actually official doctrine or not is an entirely different question.

 

[draggs]

Not trying to self dox but I live in a major Southwest city and I just saw a bunch of military EOD vehicles roll down the highway. Am I gonna die?

Yes. In 30-50 years you are very likely to die. Maybe sooner if you are FAT

 

[CAPTAIN HAPPY]

When Iran's nutsack government people screech Death to America and Death to the West, they actually mean let's all be friends.

 

[potato in mah painus]

@Catch The Rainbow
does israel have any official position or doctrine regarding the 'samson option' thing?
the whole "if muslims threaten israel enough then the jews will have a psychotic chimpout and nuke the whole world" thing doesn't feel credible to me

They have none, only referenced in speeches and vauge threats during press conferences because they don't officially have nukes. The insane levels of cuckery we see from just about every 1st world nation doesn't make any sense otherwise.

 

[draggs]

No, the Samson Option goes beyond that. The idea is if Israel believes it's doomed as the result of inbound attacks, they will attack as many targets worldwide as possible with their nuclear arsenal. It's not just retaliation against an active enemy, it's "fuck you world, we're taking you with us."

Whether it's actually official doctrine or not is an entirely different question.

No, that is not and never has been the idea except in the mind of Jew spergs

 

[YautjaWeeb]

it’s probably going to be another Ukraine but they confirmed Iran wasn’t even close to making a nuke. And that’s US intelligence saying that, who would be more than eager to dive right into the Middle East like a medieval melee once again for daddy warbucks.

To paraphrase Trump, he doesn't care what Tulsi or US intel says. Nothing US intel says matters.

I don’t know where you are getting this hokum from that your average American wants war:

That was 5 days ago dude. Minds are changed very easily.

 

[Dawdler]

Are you fucking retarded?

That's the best you can come up with? Tell me why I should care about some shithole conflict that's similar to pakistan and india.

Not trying to self dox but I live in a major Southwest city and I just saw a bunch of military EOD vehicles roll down the highway. Am I gonna die?

Yes. From old age

 

[Kalsarikännit]

No, the Samson Option goes beyond that. The idea is if Israel believes it's doomed as the result of inbound attacks, they will attack as many targets worldwide as possible with their nuclear arsenal. It's not just retaliation against an active enemy, it's "fuck you world, we're taking you with us."

Whether it's actually official doctrine or not is an entirely different question.

Officially Israel doesn’t even say they have nukes. How anyone can trust them because of that in itself is beyond me.

 

[Tyrant_1]

Polling people on Twitter is biased but polling people who answer spam calls is a realistic sample.

Trust the science goyim. Even Lindsay Graham says that American soldiers want to die for Israel because America will be safer, for some....reason...that only he knows...
He's never lied to us before!!

 

[What the shit]

Nothing US intel says matters.

Only Mossad intel matters to Trump, which you might as well call bullshit. Oh well, what can you do when you hire someone to tell you something and you just disregard them.

 

[merpalerpaherp]

A lot of kike faggot shills keep missing this point entirely.

We have tried this several times with, Lybia, syria and afghanistan. It all lead to the middle east becoming MORE dangerous and us getting our asses handed to by the Tali-Chads in afghanistan.

More and more they screech about how the "evil" Iran is just "moments away from a nuke" not even realizing now that it'd be fucking retarded now NOT to have a nuke at this rate. All these Neocon faggots are doing is making the middle east MORE dangerous than they already are.

But these Kike fags still want to convince you that bombing the middle east is going to "make it better". It won't It hasn't worked for the past 30 fucking years.

This is why I want to put a star of david next to all these Israeli shills. These dumb kike faggots need to be exposed as mindless shills for a government policy that only benefits the Israeli government and fucks over the average US citizen.

Yeah dood, I love a fucking gaggle full of libtards telling me why islam is good, the jews are evil, the soviet union was a good idea, etc. Holy fuck you're retarded.