Diseased Open Source Software Community - it's about ethics in Code of Conducts

[CrunkLord420]

For more hilarity, Leah (Francis) Rowe of Libreboot is having some cognitive dissonance about XLibre vs RedHat and has taken to purging Libreboot documentation of "Orwellian language" (archive) referencing phrases like "the community" (posted as full image because thumbnail quality makes it illegible, jannies don't crucify me pl0x):

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Pretty good stuff. Been also sperging a bit on mastodon (archive) about the current XLibre sitch. This comes directly after he phonebooked reported a known pedophile troon called Mooch to the feds with some pretty compelling evidence to boot. So close to being based but held back by muh nazis, unforch.

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I agree with the sentiment that "community" can be orwellian, compared to the more objectively correct term "users". Woketards are constantly trying to outgroup people from their "communities".

 

[analrapist]

Rowe strikes me of another tranny who goes by Justine Tunney, I don't know the name his mother gave him. But they're both self-aware enough that they realize the aggressive outgrouping going on politically right now is toxic and they seem to generally avoid it because they're legitimately too interested in tech to bother. I like how Rowe bit the Free Software bullet and manages two projects now, split by slavish adherence to ideals and the practical reality that microcode updates are quite essential, despite how proprietary they are.

 

[Ferryman]

Didn't he literally develop a split personality to appease the free software extremists by developing Canoe Boot.

Canoeboot is his impotent way to "get back" at the TRVE FOSS people for the drama around his choice to include more blobs in newer Libreboot iterations. How? Beats me. Both parties are retarded, but Francis is being petty and vindictive, at least that's what it looks like to me when he decides to push for patches like this: https://codeberg.org/canoeboot/cbmk/commit/6577abc60aadc0f40a4b5dd2ad06f827b1dbd132 where he includes newer machines but instead of modifying proprietary code to neuter the IME, as is what happens in contemporary Libreboot, he instead installs fully FOSS code by "zeroing out" the removable IME sectors and leaving the mandatory ones for bringup still there. Its just worse libreboot made specifically to spite the FSF+FOSS people by giving them what they want in the most obtuse, annoying way possible. Just use GNUBoot if you want old hardware with no ME.

Rowe strikes me of another tranny who goes by Justine Tunney, I don't know the name his mother gave him. But they're both self-aware enough that they realize the aggressive outgrouping going on politically right now is toxic and they seem to generally avoid it because they're legitimately too interested in tech to bother. I like how Rowe bit the Free Software bullet and manages two projects now, split by slavish adherence to ideals and the practical reality that microcode updates are quite essential, despite how proprietary they are.

Agreed. I only really use Libreboot / Coreboot + me_clean machines for a reason. Rowe is doing excellent work. If only he weren't a tranny. Oh well, you know what they say, perfect is the enemy of good.

 

[analrapist]

Canoeboot is his impotent way to "get back" at the TRVE FOSS people for the drama around his choice to include more blobs in newer Libreboot iterations. How? Beats me. Both parties are retarded, but Francis is being petty and vindictive,

https://canoeboot.org/news/policy.html

https://libreboot.org/news/policy.html

Here are the actual policy documents about the split. We may just differ on the point, but I do find the reasoning here to be, at minimum, reasonable.

Libreboot doesn't neuter the ME? That's a surprise to me, though I don't know the projects well.

 

[Ferryman]

https://canoeboot.org/news/policy.html

https://libreboot.org/news/policy.html

Here are the actual policy documents about the split. We may just differ on the point, but I do find the reasoning here to be, at minimum, reasonable.

Libreboot doesn't neuter the ME? That's a surprise to me, though I don't know the projects well.

Again, that's just the way I perceive it and it might be entirely wrong. And apologies if I wasn't clear - Libreboot does neuter the IME by first extracting a 'clone' of the ME from the SOIC chip(s) of the target machine, then applying the me_cleaner program to it in order to wipe out as much ME code as possible while still letting the machine boot up, then flashing that cleaned out ME over the stock installation. Up to and including Haswell (~2013/14) machines, this effectively only leaves two blobs tallying like ~90KiB total, those being BUP/ROMP on the machine, which only serve as bringup utilities. For Skylake machines (2018+, so thinkpad T480) more blobs are necessary, including a funcitonal ME kernel. Here, they use a known exploit to break Boot Guard and run unsigned code, so me_cleaner, to achieve a similar effect, leaving that 'living ME kernel' stuck in kernel panic because it is missing the necessary HECI code to be able to communicate with the host processor, so an endless error error loop where it is effectively a stub. For me personally, that's a line too far, so I stick with Haswell/Broadwell (which has some other tiny blob for RAM init, but no actual IME kernel left).

 

[WhiteNight]

Rowe strikes me of another tranny who goes by Justine Tunney, I don't know the name his mother gave him.

Justin Roberts Tunney
Born December 18, 1984
Old page with birth name: https://web.archive.org/web/20060716045624/http://www.lobstertech.com/about.php

 

[volatile puar]

Got home and started to watch. To find out it was clickbait, the video was about how "there are no Jews in Big Tech".
Interestingly, only 1750 views in three hours. Either he was put in a low priority pool or... he just has less than 100k subscribers (aka nobody).

If you knew who Lunduke was, you would have already known the video was him crying about how Jews are being persecuted. Also, these numbers are how I would expect the video to perform, nobody really wants to watch him complain about the nazis except for the people who want to mock or correct him.

 

[Kola]

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TRVKE

shiwis will leak

 

[Ed Special]

We are entering the strangest possibilities of an unholy alliance of left wing woke tards and right wing conspiracy nuts stop hating each other enough to both go after Redhat.

The common viewpoint between the two is that they're both sick of both Israeli and wandering Jews doing Jew shit.

 

[Cherenkovblue]

Got home and started to watch. To find out it was clickbait, the video was about how "there are no Jews in Big Tech".
Interestingly, only 1750 views in three hours. Either he was put in a low priority pool or... he just has less than 100k subscribers (aka nobody).

"Yes. That is correct, Mr. Lunduke. Your check is in the mail."

 

[Darkholme's Dungeon]

Libreboot doesn't neuter the ME? That's a surprise to me, though I don't know the projects well

IIRC it could only disable the the ME until Nethalem (the first Core gen). After that Intel moved it to where the processor physically could not boot without the ME. The best they could do is to remove all non-boot features and disable the remote connection code.

Edit from the site:

• Newer Intel platforms have Intel ME, which is a coprocessor inside the machine that handles many functions including certain power management, and it can provides useful remote management features with Intel AMT for example. This is a giant 5MB+ section in the flash, and the ME has full access to your RAM and other peripherals; more is documented about this in the Libreboot FAQ. On older ME4-based platforms such as Intel GM45 platforms, e.g. ThinkPad X200/T400, we remove the ME firmware entirely from the flash, leaving the Intel ME in a permanent reset loop. On Intel Sandybridge and up, we include ME firmware when building, or provide a script to insert it via vendor download on release images, but Libreboot’s build system automatically runs the me cleaner software, which removes most of the features from the ME, including its kernel and networking stack, leaving only a rump (dare we say, ROMP) of initialisation code in the ME; essentially, the configuration is equivalent to running coreboot without a payload, where it does nothing other than initialise itself, because that is all the ME does in this configuration, initialise itself but not actually run anything. ME Cleaner is required, instead of full removal, because the machines don’t boot reliably without at least the BUP/ROMP modules present in flash.

 

[Cherenkovblue]

Imagine a software project that's been 15 years into making. A project that, after all this time, is still rather beta in quality. A project that can only do a portion of what its predecessor technology could and can do, and yet it is hailed as a "modern replacement". A project that no one really wants to use, as it's cumbersome, it breaks a lot of things, and doesn't do what it ought to. A project that is now being forced onto the users through arbitrary decisions, because it's the only way it could ever possibly be adopted. You would think this is something coming from a greedy big corpo like Apple or Google or Microsoft. Nope, it's the open-source "darling" Wayland.

-- Igor Ljubuncic / Dedoimedo (literally fucking who?) weighs in on Xlibre and agrees Wayland is shit that makes progress only when corpos force it on us. It's been picked up by Hacker News. Surprisingly the comments there are profoundly anti-Wayland (which, given that HN normally fellates all things tech-adjacent, is genuinely surprising).

 

[Max Weber]

literally fucking who?

I actually kinda like his posts about Linux shit, because he tries to write them from the perspective of a normie user and it's just him being mad that everything is perpetually changing, yet nothing ever works.

 

[AnOminous]

I actually kinda like his posts about Linux shit, because he tries to write them from the perspective of a normie user and it's just him being mad that everything is perpetually changing, yet nothing ever works.

I don't even get being obsessed with the DE. Who gives a shit? Who uses Linux for the user experience?

 

[Cherenkovblue]

I actually kinda like his posts about Linux shit, because he tries to write them from the perspective of a normie user and it's just him being mad that everything is perpetually changing, yet nothing ever works.

Yeah, I'm with him as far as everything perpetually changing yet nothing ever works... I just have no idea who the fuck he is. If his post didn't land on HN I wouldn't have even found him.

I don't even get being obsessed with the DE. Who gives a shit? Who uses Linux for the user experience?

People who aren't skirt-wearing future members of the 41%? Seriously, Gnome2 / Cinnamon works just fine and doesn't need to change, and every trannyfaggot trying to change what isn't broken needs to join the 41% already.

 

[AnOminous]

People who aren't skirt-wearing future members of the 41%? Seriously, Gnome2 / Cinnamon works just fine and doesn't need to change, and every trannyfaggot trying to change what isn't broken needs to join the 41% already.

Nah it's crap but I can just not use it. It's not like systemd where you have to go through contortions to avoid it.

 

[analrapist]

Who uses Linux for the user experience?

Unironically, me. DWM has made my experience effortless. Wouldn't have it any other way if I can get away with it, now.

 

[Betonhaus]

I don't even get being obsessed with the DE. Who gives a shit? Who uses Linux for the user experience?

Well for me I don't like having ads shoved in my face every time I use my computer

 

[Redeemer]

In terms of usability, Linux is literally leagues ahead of windows the instant you are doing anything slightly more complicated than opening facebook.

 

[Ferryman]

Linux (and BSD if you're turbo based) is far and away the most user friendly OS once you set it up the way you want. I guess the more appropriate way to put it is that Linux has the potential to be the most user friendly OS, provided the user is willing to put in work to understand his system and configure it to his liking.