2025 Israel vs Iran War

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I'm convinced that if you support Trump at this point, you have jewish DNA in you. Either in your blood or in your ass. He has done nothing to benefit America, and actively sabotages America's future to benefit Israel. So I must ask. What the hell is keeping you in his camp? The guy is an unregistered foreign agent.
I'm a realist america has always been a vassal of Israel ever since baby boomers and their undying "they're gods chosen people and we must support them forever!" I was hoping the Tucker Carlson crowd would have more influence but it looks like we're just Israel's vassal yet again.
 
Trump is better for America than anyone else. Trump has been consistent on Iran and loves the Jewish people, so our involvement while frustrating shouldn't be a surprise. If it was anyone else we'd already be at full retard prepping the 82nd to go into Iran.
He single-handedly, with one move, completely destroyed America's ability to be taken at it's word in any form of negotiation or deal with any country in the world. By openly bragging about using the nuclear talks as a means of lulling Iran into a false sense of security so that Israel could attack them, he displayed to the entire world that America cannot be trusted. That is not what you want when America's soft power is fading away around the globe and more and more countries are flocking to China. If it were anyone else, America would still have a chance at being respected.
 
You confuse boomers with republicans or people on the right. Most under 50 republicans think Israel is a joke unless they're hopeless neocons.
The thing is, even if that were true doesn't change the fact these Christian Zionists are still in control of the Republican party and have massive lobbying power through their megachurches.
 
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Guys as much watching grievance and genuine (and yes deserved) discontent toward a certain nation (or group) is fun.
Can we agree to keep both the hate wagon AND cock-suckin' to a bloody minimum?
That shit show already a clusterfuck without the retarded infighting... between heresy, panic and propaganda.

@Catch The Rainbow anything new going on at the moment?
steve stream for those interested
 
He single-handedly, with one move, completely destroyed America's ability to be taken at it's word in any form of negotiation or deal with any country in the world. By openly bragging about using the nuclear talks as a means of lulling Iran into a false sense of security so that Israel could attack them, he displayed to the entire world that America cannot be trusted. That is not what you want when America's soft power is fading away around the globe and more and more countries are flocking to China. If it were anyone else, America would still have a chance at being respected.
Here in Australia there’s a lot of angst about the AUKUS agreement which we have already paid billions into, and which the US is now “reviewing”. If the US pulled out now it would seriously compromise the integrity of Australia’s navy because we wouldn’t have any submarines. Our PM was going to discuss it with Trump at G7 but got blown off because of all this.
 
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The power gays in the bomb shelter would not be happy about it.
NO faggotry in the bunkers shall be tolerated.
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Iran isn't the dominant power in the Middle East, that would be the United States whenever it has an excuse for visiting.

I know you're referring to a power vacuum Iran's next revolution could create, but the thing nations in that region would be fighting over wouldn't be "becoming the dominant power." Watching a rival nation (and in many cases rival religion) suffer a humiliating defeat would open up a myriad of opportunity.

The USA can't be the dominant power when its only excuse for being there is heavily dependent on US political climate. And the US track record is horrible, see ISIS and Taliban.

And the only opportunity I can see with Iran's dismantling would be Israeli dominance backed by the USA, and a US-puppet regime in Tehran. That's literally worse, since it just opens up even wider the stage for a full-on religious warfare between Jews and Moslems, and American boots on the ground. It's ripe for meat grinding on both sides.

And are Americans really that willing to spend decades in the desert to prop up a US-puppet Iranian government? The Americans have a terrible track record with colonial exploits, its usually a lost for them, most Americans would be willing to fight for Europe maybe but for the rest of its allies its fickle.
 
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Israel attacks Khojir missile production facility near capital, Tehran, same site it targeted in October, Iranian media
*edit: i know it not NEW it was re-mentioned for some reason*

Reports also show that Some US military helicopters just left Baghdad airport. Just looking sources for a better confirmation.
 
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Rate me late if it's already been posted but Tucker Carlson is getting fat and also humiliated Ted Cruz by asking him basic questions.
Ask Carlson the same questions about Ukraine or Israel/Palestine and he would be just as confused. Cruz's job is to know about the Iranian government and the Iranian threat. Minutia like what Tucker is doing is for the assistants

Tucker looks like fat Clarkson somehow
 
Anybody who seriously believed that Trump is anti-war has the political sense of a chicken.
Trump has spent the last 15 years salivating at the thought of nuking or going to war with Iran. The consistent platform of the GOP for the last 20 years has been "we need to bomb Iran".

Obama (a Democrat) got us an agreement to directly monitor Iran's nuclear activities in exchange for lifted diplomatic sanctions but then the people elected Trump (a Republican) to tear that deal apart because he's mad that it had Obama's name on it and robbed him of the chance to be the master negotiator he wishes he was. How odd! For all of Obama's flaws, at the very fucking least he made sure his Nobel Peace Prize win could plausibly be explained via efforts like Cuban Thaw or the aforementioned Iran nuclear deal.

Aside from that, Trump is Netanyahu's biggest cocksucker, bigger than any other President in office during his reign, anyone thinking that he wouldn't immediately toss everything away to enable Israel's violent dominance over the middle east is either extremely gullible or fucking insane.
 
Saudi Arabia is not being willfully blind or blind at all. They have seen how Palestinians destroy everything they touch and they want no part of it.

The overwhelming majority of Saudis support Palestinians, literally the only reason Osama Bin Laden existed in the first place, and literally the main reason why Saudis are prone to joining terrorist groups, its because of Israel.

It's really not that complicated that a member of Saudi's most prominent families decided to go rogue that way, most Saudis are boiling under the surface over Israel.
 
He single-handedly, with one move, completely destroyed America's ability to be taken at it's word in any form of negotiation or deal with any country in the world. By openly bragging about using the nuclear talks as a means of lulling Iran into a false sense of security so that Israel could attack them, he displayed to the entire world that America cannot be trusted. That is not what you want when America's soft power is fading away around the globe and more and more countries are flocking to China. If it were anyone else, America would still have a chance at being respected.
Iran is an adversary of the US, and Trump is the continuation of US policy using Israel as an effective proxy to eliminate threats to its soft power in the Middle East. If anything, he's just re-affirming decades of U.S. strategy. That's why he did honor his deal to lift sanctions on Syria if they became more Israeli friendly. This wasn't a master chess move either; the Soviets thought they could use Israel as a way to export communism in the M.E. but Israelis have a bit more agency than that. I'm also struggling to see countries "flocking to China." China is one of Israel's biggest trading partners. Even they value their relationship with Israel more than Iran - which is why you aren't seeing them get too involved, along with Russia.
 
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