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https://news.sky.com/story/row-over-new-greggs-vegan-sausage-rolls-heats-up-11597679

A heated row has broken out over a move by Britain's largest bakery chain to launch a vegan sausage roll.

The pastry, which is filled with a meat substitute and encased in 96 pastry layers, is available in 950 Greggs stores across the country.

It was promised after 20,000 people signed a petition calling for the snack to be launched to accommodate plant-based diet eaters.


But the vegan sausage roll's launch has been greeted by a mixed reaction: Some consumers welcomed it, while others voiced their objections.

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#VEGANsausageroll thanks Greggs

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Cook and food poverty campaigner Jack Monroe declared she was "frantically googling to see what time my nearest opens tomorrow morning because I will be outside".

While TV writer Brydie Lee-Kennedy called herself "very pro the Greggs vegan sausage roll because anything that wrenches veganism back from the 'clean eating' wellness folk is a good thing".

One Twitter user wrote that finding vegan sausage rolls missing from a store in Corby had "ruined my morning".

Another said: "My son is allergic to dairy products which means I can't really go to Greggs when he's with me. Now I can. Thank you vegans."

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The hype got me like #Greggs #Veganuary


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TV presenter Piers Morgan led the charge of those outraged by the new roll.

"Nobody was waiting for a vegan bloody sausage, you PC-ravaged clowns," he wrote on Twitter.

Mr Morgan later complained at receiving "howling abuse from vegans", adding: "I get it, you're all hangry. I would be too if I only ate plants and gruel."

Another Twitter user said: "I really struggle to believe that 20,000 vegans are that desperate to eat in a Greggs."

"You don't paint a mustach (sic) on the Mona Lisa and you don't mess with the perfect sausage roll," one quipped.

Journalist Nooruddean Choudry suggested Greggs introduce a halal steak bake to "crank the fume levels right up to 11".

The bakery chain told concerned customers that "change is good" and that there would "always be a classic sausage roll".

It comes on the same day McDonald's launched its first vegetarian "Happy Meal", designed for children.

The new dish comes with a "veggie wrap", instead of the usual chicken or beef option.

It should be noted that Piers Morgan and Greggs share the same PR firm, so I'm thinking this is some serious faux outrage and South Park KKK gambiting here.

 

[Howslans]

-retardation-

Spoiler

I am very pregnant right now with a very very much wanted baby and the level of misinformation regarding abortion law/SIDS is making me mati

SIDS is usually caused by accidental suffocation, not murder. Not saying it doesn’t happen, of course it does, but vast majority is exhausted parent accidentally suffocating their baby while co-sleeping, or by having stuff in the crib like blankets, side protectors, hell half the stuff is recommended to new parents is a suffocation risk. Also see non optimal apparatus that keeps the baby’s head at the wrong angle causing them to not be able to cope with reduced oxygen, like a lot of car seats and rockers. Also see low iq blacks putting babies to sleep face down of course. SIDS as a diagnosis at least allows utterly destroyed bereaved parents to not end up topping themselves knowing they were responsible for their baby’s death.

The change to the abortion law does not change the legal access women have to abortion in any way. It’s still 24 weeks, (too late in my view but there it is), requires 2 drs to sign off, must be performed under medical supervision. It doesn’t allow for drs to perform full term abortions. It decriminalises the act of accessing abortions at any gestation for the pregnant woman only - which almost entirely affects extremely unwell women who access non state sanctioned abortions, so they don’t face criminal charges if they even survive. It is a very rare situation and there to protect women in extremely vulnerable situations. Women in desperate situations will always find ways to end their pregnancies, we should deal with this with nuance, not blanket criminalisation.

 

[Tom Nook's Gloryhole]

I think that a LibLabCon coalition might have to come about, though that would end all three in the process - Wokes will never get into bed with Based Trads, and they'll opt for Greens, Communists or even The Mr. Blobby Alliance. Their 'Moral Purity' must remain in tact because reasons.

Nothing I want more than a Lib-Lab-Con coalition. It'll be the complete death of them, allow Reform to get even stronger for 5 years and result in every fucking voter in the UK being pissed off to the point of full blown non-compliance.

 

[Chunky Salsa]

Nothing I want more than a Lib-Lab-Con coalition. It'll be the complete death of them, allow Reform to get even stronger for 5 years and result in every fucking voter in the UK being pissed off to the point of full blown non-compliance.

I'd rather it not carry on for much longer. Defeat has consequences, and we're being firmly, but surely ground down. Another 5 years of that, is not good.

 

[>IMPLYING]

I always find it a bit weird how the SNP are such insufferable lefties. Being naturally conservative and yet wanting independence at the same time must make each election so sad for anyone like that.

If they were centrist, I'd understand. But the SNP and PC are both so far left it's insane. Pro-independence parties are just survival mode at that point. Their main cause is relatively small, and then in that sub-section you only have a choice of left wing. There's not enough votes to sustain a choice of ideologies inside of that smaller pro-independence balloon.

They have the same issue that Labour and the Conservatives have in that they decide their policies and social rhetoric based on what they hear in the capital and other city centres whilst applying broad stroke generalisations to the rest of the country based on stereotypes essentially, and in the age of the internet no less.

The SNP are the same, adopting the lefty social politics popular in Edinburgh and Glasgow (though I think the latter is more vehemently anti-British compared to the former, considering they were one of only 1 of 4 council districts in favour of independence), which is in conflict with their "Pro-Scottish, Anti-British"-chest beating that's meant to bring in everyone else. I think it's very easy to assess why the SNP are so insufferably Left-wing just by looking at how far their parliament building is from the nearest university.

(Yes, the University of Edinburgh is right over the road from the nearest Mosque.)

Their popularity in spite of their rhetoric likely lead to them being overconfidence in what was popular with their base, and I still cling to my theory that the proliferation of WFH during the lockdowns and other restrictions at the time forced more people to use the internet in a non-recreational way, allowing SNP voters to see what their party was like outside the snippets shown on the TV.

Similar to the tone-deafness of the Conservatives highlighting the colossal immigration figures in 2023 (showing their uselessness on the issue)) killing their party, the SNP putting a Paki in charge who espoused anti-white and thereby anti-Scottish platitudes probably did something similar to the SNP.

They went from 57 seats to 9 in the '24 GE, with SNP seats mostly confined to the less populated areas to the North.

It's a bit difficult to draw conclusions about future voting intentions based on how they voted in the 2024 GE but their Conservative voters may flock to Reform in the future.

Trend-wise, their polls aren't looking too dissimilar to ours. It'd be interesting to see how well Reform do up there since they look on track to overtake Labour in terms of popularity (though the SNP are remaining steady). I'm not very convinced independence is the desire of the Scottish people. Maybe Glaswegians and students.

 

[Otterly]

It decriminalises the act of accessing abortions at any gestation for the pregnant woman only - which almost entirely affects extremely unwell women who access non state sanctioned abortions,

Yes i understand what the law is. ‘The act of accessing abortions’ outside of the current (previous, very sensible) rules is murder. Or means a woman can murder a baby at a late stage and not be prosecuted. Being mentally unwell is not a factor to allow this behaviour differently to before. Non state sanctioned abortions are illegal ones. The legal ones were allowed very late for anyone who truly needed them. What this does is allow someone to kill a late stage foetus with no consequences.
It’s like taking a case where someone’s stabbed their other half to death and saying it allows women to access non state sanctioned partner removal but they’re very unwell women so no consequences.
There was NO reason for this legislation

 

[Whoopsie Daisy]

Jeremy cunt wants to free my nigga Letby

Former health secretary Sir Jeremy Hunt has called for an "urgent re-examination" of the Lucy Letby case after "serious and credible" questions were raised by experts.

Hunt said he and parliamentary colleagues such as Sir David Davis "now believe the time has come for these concerns to be addressed as a matter of urgency".

I'm guessing the lid is about to blow off the NHS failings in maternity wards and this is a way to get ahead of it, take a little bit blame, while sweeping the massive issues under the carpet.

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There was NO reason for this legislation

There is, not good reasons, not honourable or worthy reasons, but there are cold, evil, disgusting reasons for it.

 

[Otterly]

there are cold, evil, disgusting reasons for it.

There are certainly no good ones. I’m curious to see what was the pressure behind the MPs who brought it

 

[Tom Nook's Gloryhole]

I'd rather it not carry on for much longer. Defeat has consequences, and we're being firmly, but surely ground down. Another 5 years of that, is not good.

Is it really defeat if Reform get a majority win but every party in the UK join forces to get one vote more?

I mean the reality is this, I don't think Reform are 'right' enough to implement what the public wants at this point. It's a good start but Farage needs to be kicked to the side and replaced by an actual right winger who won't fuck off to the US and not do his fucking job. At the same time, 4 years doesn't seem long enough to essentially vet 300+ MPs to ensure that they're capable of staying in their post for the whole election cycle.

Plus think about it, how long would it take a Lib-Lab-Con coalition to completely collapse? It'd be decided in weeks, not months.

However I get a feeling that the longer this goes on, the more Reform go up in the polls to the point where even a Lib-Lab-Con-SNP coalition is going to get less votes.

 

[Whoopsie Daisy]

There are certainly no good ones. I’m curious to see what was the pressure behind the MPs who brought it

Mainly useful idiots told to vote for freedom for women. "You don't want to be part of the oppressive patriarchy, do you? Your body, your choice!" Combine that with Pakis wanting more time to kill incestuous pregnancies and we get the nice parts of the bad reasons.

I'll post the rest in the conspiracy thread.

 

[Crunkle]

Their popularity in spite of their rhetoric likely lead to them being overconfidence in what was popular with their base, and I still cling to my theory that the proliferation of WFH during the lockdowns and other restrictions at the time forced more people to use the internet in a non-recreational way, allowing SNP voters to see what their party was like outside the snippets shown on the TV.

Ohh, that's an interesting thought.

What do you mean by "non-recreational way", just working? Because it's easier to hide any reasonable opinions at home rather than an office. If my workplace had a Pride month event that was mandatory, I could switch my camera off, mute the call and do something productive. You wouldn't be able to do that in an office.

 

[FedPostalService]

I always find it a bit weird how the SNP are such insufferable lefties. Being naturally conservative and yet wanting independence at the same time must make each election so sad for anyone like that.

If they were centrist, I'd understand. But the SNP and PC are both so far left it's insane. Pro-independence parties are just survival mode at that point. Their main cause is relatively small, and then in that sub-section you only have a choice of left wing. There's not enough votes to sustain a choice of ideologies inside of that smaller pro-independence balloon.

They used to be centre right, the Tartan Tories, the Russian agent and general sex pest Alex Salmond took charge.

 

[Crunkle]

(forgive me for the double-post, I couldn't add this quote to my edit)

It's a good start but Farage needs to be kicked to the side and replaced by an actual right winger who won't fuck off to the US and not do his fucking job.

The issue with the right in the UK is that Farage is the only one that captures the collective mind of the largest group. Jenrick, Badenoch et al are useless and will be pub quiz fodder in future (if any pubs even exist).

There's literally no politician currently doing what Farage does to that effect. He's toxic, but not toxic enough to be dismissed as a retard like Golding or Yaxley-Lennon.

 

[Made In Wales]

Funny that there's an area called Dumbiedykes between the Mosque and Holyrood.

Dumbie Dykes... hahaha!

 

[Howslans]

Yes i understand what the law is. ‘The act of accessing abortions’ outside of the current (previous, very sensible) rules is murder. Or means a woman can murder a baby at a late stage and not be prosecuted. Being mentally unwell is not a factor to allow this behaviour differently to before. Non state sanctioned abortions are illegal ones. The legal ones were allowed very late for anyone who truly needed them. What this does is allow someone to kill a late stage foetus with no consequences.
It’s like taking a case where someone’s stabbed their other half to death and saying it allows women to access non state sanctioned partner removal but they’re very unwell women so no consequences.
There was NO reason for this legislation

It brings Britain up to date with several other countries in terms of how abortion is considered in law. Up until yesterday, basically abortion was a criminal act but for certain medical exemptions (2 doctors signing off, before 24 weeks etc) which effectively ‘legalised’ abortions for women who sought them. These new changes mean that abortion is not considered a criminal act now, but do not change the requirements to legally seek one.

It’s not anything even remotely like stabbing your other half to death, because your other half has not been fully grown inside you, nor is totally dependent on your body to grow and survive (hopefully.)

 

[Morethanabitfoolish]

Where did this legislation come from?

I would like to know who was pushing this behind the MPs.

Three things are likely pushing this.

Firstly it'll be one of those things Labour hope to use in the future when another party tries to roll it back so they too can do the idiot Handmaiden's tale LARP as the Democrats.
Second is it works on a global scale for their counterparts in other countries to claim "but the UK has abortion up to the point of conception, why don;t we!"
Third is it's another step to full blown legalisation and normalisation of it because at this point the only reasons Labour aren't a eugenicist party is they're passing the laws to enable it rather than doing it and their objective is not to improve the biological quality of the average resident of the country.

 

[FedPostalService]

forgive me for the double-post, I couldn't add this quote to my edit)

Never apologise. This is a local thread for local people. I think the tranny mods are leaving us alone now.

(If I suddenly get a thread ban the tranny mods are upset at being called trannies and Null is still a closet faggot)

 

[BongoMongo]

The Mosque in central Edinburgh was paid for by some foreign Government. I want to say Kuwait but could be wrong.

Also slightly OT but funny: today on Bongo Mongo's public transit related adventures: an autogynaephile got refused onto the bus as it's proper Taps Aff weather and the buses all apparently identify as ovens,and the troon wanted to bring on a Maccies to scoff.

Seeing it stamping its feet and bawling on the bus station concourse as we pulled out the stance was absolutely the start to my day I needed.

 

[Made In Wales]

(forgive me for the double-post, I couldn't add this quote to my edit)

The issue with the right in the UK is that Farage is the only one that captures the collective mind of the largest group. Jenrick, Badenoch et al are useless and will be pub quiz fodder in future (if any pubs even exist).

There's literally no politician currently doing what Farage does to that effect. He's toxic, but not toxic enough to be dismissed as a retard like Golding or Yaxley-Lennon.

Reform UK without Nigel Farage is like Manchester United without Sir Alex Ferguson or Nottingham Forest without Brian Clough.

Love him or loathe him, he's needed for the time being as he will get the results needed to bring Reform UK to power.

THEREAFTER, I am in agreement with most people here - a plan of continuity has to be put in place and a future long-term leader who will do the things necessary.

We have to bear in mind that whilst we are politically intellectual and can debate and discuss, the majority of the electorate are dumb-dumbs who need to have politics spoonfed to them.

If Reform UK can be seen as the party of low tax, low cost of living, high employment and also protect our children, our future and national sovereignty then they'll more or less have it in the bag whilst other parties debate whether it's a Vagnis or a Pegina.

 

[>IMPLYING]

What do you mean by "non-recreational way", just working? Because it's easier to hide any reasonable opinions at home rather than an office. If my workplace had a Pride month event that was mandatory, I could switch my camera off, mute the call and do something productive. You wouldn't be able to do that in an office.

We know that something like 92-96% of the adult UK population has internet access, but it's a rather nebulous statistic that doesn't cover what they use it for. It could be scrolling through Twitter, using Netflix, or just having data on your phone even without using it (this is why 65+ people unfamiliar with tech is also included in such statistics since you can't just buy calls anymore). I used some Ofcom data to back this position up a few months ago here. I also asserted it in my walls of texts which I subjugated the thread to.

In a "non-recreational way" I mean that people are using it for stuff outside of direct communication and streaming, using it to look at the news or something else. For a lot of older people forced to work from home (which the government helped to subsidise the doling out of equipment for) it forced them to increase their familiarity with tech and engage with the internet. I know that during the teething period a bunch of older people I knew were forced to make emails for the first time and subsequently taught how to sign up for websites because they were then made to sign up with Linkdn. I think even increased general exposure to the internet will force people to become aware of stuff they hadn't previously, because even if it were said on the telly at some point, if you didn't watch your chosen news channel for the day, pick up a newspaper or listen to the radio, the chances are you'd never become aware of it.

 

[FedPostalService]

Reform UK without Nigel Farage is like Manchester United without Sir Alex Ferguson or Nottingham Forest without Brian Clough.

Then it’s just the same as UKIP or the Brexit Party. It’s going to be nothing but an establishment psyop and we are fucking domed.