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Should be a wild four years.

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Holy shit those ads flopped hard in 24 and they’re trying them again, what fags.

It’s like the only time they have normal white guys in their ads too, fucking losers.
Considering how down bad a lot of Zoomers/Alpha's are this might backfire to "Fuck you sex haver! I hope all your fuck buddies get deported!".
 
The problem with MAGA isolationism is that it's a fantasy. Trump won the election with the help of Zionists, Jews, and conservative Neocons. Most of Middle America are friendly to Jews and would wipe Palestine off the map if given the choice. Thinking that Trump won't stick America's neck out for Israel is about as fanciful as SJW feminists embracing hentai. Most of the people surrounding Trump and his top lawmakers in Congress are Zionists or Israel-adjacent. Trump intervening for Israel was always going to happen; and a majority of people who voted for Trump dream of the day when he stomps out the Iranian Supreme Leader's neck. Just like the people who wanted a tough immigration crackdown, the Zionists are getting exactly what they voted for.
If you wan't to know how middle America feels, look at J.D. Vance. For middle America when they refer day to day to Palestine, Lebanon, Jordan, or Zion, they're talking about some city in Iowa or Ohio. We don't know where they are on the map other than vaguely. We don't know which one boarders the others, or why we should care, other than that every time our leaders send us over there we die and get nothing in return but more immigration- refugees. These are the forgotten and ignored voter Trump listen to, who's primarily concerns are domestic- stopping illegal immigration, bringing back the good union manufacturing jobs the neocons and neolibs shipped overseas, and fighting the fentanyl epidemic which have together destroyed once great cities.
 
Brain dead as fuck take.

Cats already out of the bag. Iran does not yet have nukes, its something we're trying to stop. We cant stop best korea because they already have them.
Actually tho. If we invaded North Korea, the first thing they would do is nuke us. Iran can't. It's like stopping the Halo Rings just before they go off. Do that, and everything stays the same. The ring goes off, and well... yeah man.
 
Micky from Iowa who just wanted to serve his country out there
It doesn't detract from your overall point but most special forces ARE this guy exactly or at least started here.

Again it doesn't change the point you're making but I always find it interesting how many top tier warfighters sound like they have straw in their crotches.
 
From yesterday:

Florida Attorney General Defied Order Blocking Part of Immigration Law, Judge Rules
The New York Times (archive.ph)
By Patricia Mazzei
2025-06-17 21:34:13GMT

A federal judge held the attorney general, James Uthmeier, in civil contempt of court for violating an order blocking part of an immigration enforcement law.
A federal judge took the extraordinary step of holding Florida’s attorney general, James Uthmeier, in civil contempt of court on Tuesday in a continuing clash over the state’s new immigration enforcement law.

The judge, Kathleen M. Williams of the Federal District Court in Miami, ruled that Mr. Uthmeier had defied an order putting part of the new law on hold when he told police officers that he could not “prevent” them from making arrests under it.

“Litigants cannot change the plain meaning of words as it suits them, especially when conveying a court’s clear and unambiguous order,” Judge Williams said in a 27-page ruling. “Fidelity to the rule of law can have no other meaning.”

“If being held in contempt is what it costs to defend the rule of law and stand firmly behind President Trump’s agenda on illegal immigration, so be it,” Mr. Uthmeier wrote on social media on Tuesday evening.

The judge ordered Mr. Uthmeier’s office to produce biweekly reports, in coordination with state attorneys and other law enforcement agencies, detailing whether “any arrests, detentions, or law enforcement actions” under the disputed provision of the state law had occurred. The first report is due on July 1.

The court must also be immediately notified of any arrests under the law’s provision, the judge said. In the event any arrests occur, the court will require the attorney general to again notify law enforcement agencies of the judge’s order “to prevent future violations.”

If Mr. Uthmeier does not comply with the sanctions, Judge Williams wrote, she will consider additional ones, “including fines and fees to compensate plaintiffs for costs of enforcing the court’s order.”

Mr. Uthmeier, a Republican who until recently served as Gov. Ron DeSantis’s chief of staff, said on a conservative podcast in early June that if Judge Williams wanted “to lock me up in jail, I’m willing to take that,” though the judge was never considering criminal contempt. “I’m not going to cave and renege on my oath to uphold and defend our state constitution and laws,” he said.

Judge Williams ruled a few weeks after a contentious court hearing in which she strongly criticized Mr. Uthmeier’s actions. If defendants like Mr. Uthmeier, the state’s top law enforcement officer, do not follow court orders, she said at the time, then “anarchy” could follow.

The legal battle is focused on one part of a law that Mr. DeSantis, a Republican, signed in February. The provision in question made it a state crime for unauthorized immigrants to enter Florida.

Judge Williams temporarily blocked enforcement of that provision in April, saying it was most likely unconstitutional. Several plaintiffs, including the Florida Immigrant Coalition and the Farmworker Association of Florida, had argued that the provision encroached on federal duties.

Mr. Uthmeier had countered that the judge’s order was too broad because it applied not only to the named defendants but also local and state police agencies.

On June 6, an appellate court rejected the state’s request to stay Judge Williams’s order. Among other things, that court noted Mr. Uthmeier’s “seemingly defiant posture vis-à-vis the district court.”

“He may well be right that the district court’s order is impermissibly broad,” the appeals court found. “But that does not warrant what seems to have been at least a veiled threat not to obey” Judge Williams’s order.

After Judge Williams put the provision on hold in April, Mr. Uthmeier told local law enforcement agencies that they should hold off on arresting people suspected of violating it. But a week later, he told the agencies in a second letter that he could not “prevent” such arrests from taking place.

That led Judge Williams to ask Mr. Uthmeier’s lawyers in late April for some sort of redress, saying that he had been “inviting police officers” to defy her order. Lawyers for Mr. Uthmeier argued that he was merely stating his legal position, not inviting any such behavior.

Mr. Uthmeier then said in a TV interview that Judge Williams did not “have jurisdiction” to keep law enforcement officers from making arrests. Mr. Uthmeier’s spokesman referred to Judge Williams on social media as an “Obama-appointed judge” engaged in “lawfare.”

Mr. DeSantis, who appointed Mr. Uthmeier as attorney general in February, said that Judge Williams “wrongly” ruled against the state law and said she had “no authority” to order Mr. Uthmeier to stop arrests.

Jesse Panuccio, a lawyer for Mr. Uthmeier, said in the hearing, in late May, that Judge Williams was focusing too narrowly on a “snippet” of the attorney general’s second letter and not considering its full context.

He added that state police agencies had not made any additional arrests under the law since she issued her restraining order on April 18.
 
Actually tho. If we invaded North Korea, the first thing they would do is nuke us. Iran can't. It's like stopping the Halo Rings just before they go off. Do that, and everything stays the same. The ring goes off, and well... yeah man.
It mostly has to do with upside vs downside. Invading NK means that SK is immediately bombarded to hell. Not doing so means basically nothing. The territory they control in NK isn't critical to world trade or anything. If we leave them alone in their goblin holes, they'll make trouble, but it's limited.
 
Hey, do you guys remember that time the Democrats brought Dick Cheney out of storage like that was going to hurt Trump's chances of winning? I was thinking about this the other day and I still can't believe they did that.
It is fucking astounding how many Democrats act like the W Bush era never happened. It's like part of them understands that they can't reasonably call Trump a tyrant or a criminal when compared to Bush, so they've just willed themselves to forget everything that happened during his time in office.
Good new Boyo's Trump is gonna deport your Latina gf before she gets fat.


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This scenario is exactly what I voted for.
Why do African American fathers stereotypically abandon their kids anyway?
Have you ever been around black children?
 
Ok, so why don't we invade North Korea if they have nukes?
Because they can't get an ICBM working for the life of them. North Korean ICBMs being a joke is a meme. Sure, we can invade and destroy them, but it'd be a waste of time and manpower.

The same can't be said for Iran; they might succeed in making a working ICBM, they might not, and Israel isn't content to just stick around to find out. Neither is Trump.
 
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Because they can't get an ICBM working for the life of them. North Korean ICBMs being a joke is a meme. Sure, we can invade and destroy them, but it'd be a waste of time and manpower.

The same can't be said for Iran; they might succeed in making a working ICBM, they might not, and Israel isn't content to just stick around to find out. Neither is Trump.
Not sure how accurate it is now, but the previous rumor was North Korea struggled to make their nukes small enough to fit on an ICBM in the first place.
 
A federal judge held the attorney general, James Uthmeier, in civil contempt of court for violating an order blocking part of an immigration enforcement law.

Uthmeier is not as smart as Ashley Moody was. He probably should shut the hell up before he gets himself in serious trouble that he's not skilled enough to get himself out of.
 
Why wouldn’t Iran want a nuke?
It's not irrational for Iran to get nuke; it's just that Israel finds it irrational for an ideological enemy to have one. The U.S., for example, did not want Taiwan to have a nuke either. because it would hurt their reproach with China in the 1980s. That's why the US dismantled their nuclear program.
 
From yesterday:

Florida Attorney General Defied Order Blocking Part of Immigration Law, Judge Rules
The New York Times (archive.ph)
By Patricia Mazzei
2025-06-17 21:34:13GMT

A federal judge held the attorney general, James Uthmeier, in civil contempt of court for violating an order blocking part of an immigration enforcement law.
Seems like the judicial branch has decided to destroy their legitimacy on the altar of illegal migration. Causing a constitutional crisis because it's just that important to you to turn America brown seems like a bad idea, but hey, I didn't go to law school.
 
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