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Only if we also turn Israel into one as well for the USS Liberty.
Israel has strip malls and we didn't have to fire a single shot.
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Iran is a state sponsor of terrorism and uses proxy warfare to achieve its political aims in the region. If Iran obtains a nuclear weapon, there is a likelihood that it may distribute them to its proxies. These proxies likely have shitty safeguards, if there even are any, with regards to the weapons given to them by Iran. Ergo, Iran obtaining nuclear weapons is a huge threat to national security and cannot be allowed to happen.

Personally, I'm getting what I voted for. I don't like war but I don't see any other option Iran is offering. There is a time to beat swords into plowshares and a time to beat plowshares into swords. I personally think this is the latter.
This is exactly what happened with Pakistan. Once Pakistan got its nukes, its scientists started showing up in North Korea, Libya, and Iran.
 
Ok Ill say it, Id rather let Iran have a nuke then go to war with them

Push comes to shove I think Id rather they use said nuke on Israel than us having to go to war with Iran, I know that sounds terrible and Id rather none of that happens Im just talking in hypotheticals

If that happened the whole world would come together in a coalition to put down Iran and it wouldent fall to just us and Israel, a team that failed to make Iraq a bastion of peace TWICE

Beyond that I still just say
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People freaking out about Iran having nukes is just stupid. I doubt they would do anything with them. The government is retarded but smart enough to know the power Nukes are and can cause.

If Pakistan, a country that funds more terrorist organizations with the help of the ISI more than any other country, is known for Islamic fundamentalism and rapid decay in its society, can have nukes, Iran having them will do nothing but make Israel mad.
 
Iran is a state sponsor of terrorism and uses proxy warfare to achieve its political aims in the region. If Iran obtains a nuclear weapon, there is a likelihood that it may distribute them to its proxies. These proxies likely have shitty safeguards, if there even are any, with regards to the weapons given to them by Iran. Ergo, Iran obtaining nuclear weapons is a huge threat to national security and cannot be allowed to happen.
Got any other reasons that aren't twenty old talking points from four administrations ago?
 
Whatever happened to you retards saying you love Trump for not getting us involved in middle eastern wars?
psssst: Not everyone on earth said this.
Ok Ill say it, Id rather let Iran have a nuke then go to war with them
This is more or less the same mentality that's filling Europe with muslims. You do realize what nukes do correct?
 
You never know: he could be a glowie. No one would expect a Mormon glowie.
I like the joke but seriously mormons make up a significant amount of federal agents.

I forget the numbers but they're as overrepresented in three-letter agencies as jews are in law, banking, or medicine iirc.
 
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Iran is a state sponsor of terrorism and uses proxy warfare to achieve its political aims in the region. If Iran obtains a nuclear weapon, there is a likelihood that it may distribute them to its proxies. These proxies likely have shitty safeguards, if there even are any, with regards to the weapons given to them by Iran. Ergo, Iran obtaining nuclear weapons is a huge threat to national security and cannot be allowed to happen.

Personally, I'm getting what I voted for. I don't like war but I don't see any other option Iran is offering. There is a time to beat swords into plowshares and a time to beat plowshares into swords. I personally think this is the latter.
So are you signing up to fight on the front lines then?
 
Got any other reasons that aren't twenty old talking points from four administrations ago?
You can say Israel deserved October 7th all you want, but it still proves that Iran is in the business of proxy warfare. Like it or not, the attack lent new credibility to those who called Iran out as a state sponsor of terrorism "four administrations ago."
 
People freaking out about Iran having nukes is just stupid. I doubt they would do anything with them. The government is retarded but smart enough to know the power Nukes are and can cause.

If Pakistan, a country that funds more terrorist organizations with the help of the ISI more than any other country, is known for Islamic fundamentalism and rapid decay in its society, can have nukes, Iran having them will do nothing but make Israel mad.
To be frank, I have no idea why the US tolerates Pakistan. They are objectively worse than Iran. The problem is they have nukes now and receive huge support from China with their nuclear program. There are literally towns in Pakistan right now with Chinese names because they were sites created specifically for the Pakistani-China nuclear cooperation program.
Got any other reasons that aren't twenty old talking points from four administrations ago?
Muslims are bad. Very bad.
 
Almost all of NK's artillery is already at the SK border and always has been. Where else would it be?
I'm talking literally less than a few hundred feet off the border, because that's the maximum range of those rockets and conventional artillery. They would literally have to be stationed AT THE BORDER, to reach Soul proper. Conventional artillery usually tops at 25-40km. You go 5km deep into North Korea from their border, their shells will land short.
 
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Being clear, my dad is a Gulf War vet, and that makes him VERY pro Isreal and fuck Iran. That's honestly where a lot of my opinions formed
Iran is going to be COP Keating but big along with turbo tunnel ratting and all of the problems that Biden created in the military didn't just magically disappear because Trump is in office. If you really want boots in Tehran, all the stuff Biden gave away to Ukraine would've been useful for that since everything is going to have to be flown into Iran for occupation.

Invading Iran is already a betrayal to MAGA and if you want logistics in Iran to become simpler then Trump will have to completely abandon America for Israel's safety by blowing trillions on making their shitty moped sized mountain dirt roads drivable for our vehicles.
Once he's out then the Democrats are going to mass import all the rapefugees we just bombed out who want revenge and continue allowing 3rd world countries to flood us with their trash population from their prison system.

You should form opinions of your own instead of being an NPC
He's mormon and FAT. The kind of fat that makes you ineligible for service.
 
To be frank, I have no idea why the US tolerates Pakistan. They are objectively worse than Iran. The problem is they have nukes now and receive huge support from China with their nuclear program. There are literally towns in Pakistan right now with Chinese names because they were sites created specifically for the Pakistani-China nuclear cooperation program.
Pakistan is objectively worse than Iran, even their diaspora are much worse than the Persians (look at the UK). They probably tolerate them because the Government also helps fund organizations like terror groups. I don't understand why we keep them as an ally, we have 1 base there and i think thats it.
 
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