TGWTG Nostalgia Chick / Lindsay Ellis / TheDudette - aka Hotdogs in face girl

[Solomon Bundy]

I think the real issue is Linsday being an anti-semite would be hot and based.

I approve of this thread's attempt to will it into existence.

 

[Arthur Morgan]

Which is why so many lefties simp for a gang of hyperviolent ragheads like the Palestinians, whose only delay in killing most westerners would be debating to rape them first, while carrying out violence against Jews, who were until recently, often reliably left wing.

The argument I've seen from the left is that at this point, Israel is too powerful to be considered the underdog and as such, any vengeance they enact on the world for their horrors is no longer justified. Which is probably what they would do for black people if they had ever met one outside of the diversity scholarships they got drunk with and/or fucked in college.

They also don't consider anyone non-white to be capable of violence unless they're attacked first. So clearly, that means Israel started things. And well, Israel probably could use some defunding.

 

[Random Internet Person]

Feels like a good time to contribute to the thread by sharing some of the gems from Lindsay's Raya Last Dragon Cancellation (in loose chronological order):
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I’ll always find it funny how since this all happened when #StopAsianHate was at its peak, nobody ever bothered to stop and consider if Lindsay’s argument had any weight or merit to it. And that this happened over something so mundane.

 

[Hemlock Latte]

...more than half of which they started... . . . This is what, the 8th war they've started...?

Typical settler bullshit. Show up, steal the land, violently displace the people who live on it, and claim they started it if they put up any resistance. Israel will never be anything but an extension of the British and then American imperial project. Zionism predates the Holocaust, it was wrong then, and wasn't somehow rendered magically morally correct afterwards. Elsewhere you beleaguer the point about the Holocaust's uniquely industrial character, which I had already conceded in the first sentence of my previous reply. You have apology on hand for every single genocide that happened to someone else.

People should stop reading a back-and-forth between two faggots on the internet and read about Palestine. The One Hundred Years War on Palestine by Rashid Khalidi, Genocide Bad by Sim Kern, Gaza by Norman Finkelstein, The Ethnic Cleansing of Palestine by Ilan Pappé, One Day Everyone Will Have Always been Against This by Omar El Akkad. I can DM you digital copies of any of the above in the format of your choice, don't worry about it. From the river to the sea.

Anyway, going to back off of this now, because of rules on derailing threads.

I’ll always find it funny how since this all happened when #StopAsianHate was at its peak, nobody ever bothered to stop and consider if Lindsay’s argument had any weight or merit to it. And that this happened over something so mundane.

The movie had solid character design and voice acting and was otherwise wholly mediocre.

 

[urr13 account]

Typical settler bullshit.

lol, lmao even.

 

[Random Internet Person]

Typical settler bullshit. Show up, steal the land, violently displace the people who live on it, and claim they started it if they put up any resistance. Israel will never be anything but an extension of the British and then American imperial project. Zionism predates the Holocaust, it was wrong then, and wasn't somehow rendered magically morally correct afterwards. Elsewhere you beleaguer the point about the Holocaust's uniquely industrial character, which I had already conceded in the first sentence of my previous reply. You have apology on hand for every single genocide that happened to someone else.

People should stop reading a back-and-forth between two faggots on the internet and read about Palestine. The One Hundred Years War on Palestine by Rashid Khalidi, Genocide Bad by Sim Kern, Gaza by Norman Finkelstein, The Ethnic Cleansing of Palestine by Ilan Pappé, One Day Everyone Will Have Always been Against This by Omar El Akkad. I can DM you digital copies of any of the above in the format of your choice, don't worry about it. From the river to the sea.

Anyway, going to back off of this now, because of rules on derailing threads.

I swear you and @Eventide are cut from the same cloth.

 

[Hemlock Latte]

I swear you and @Eventide are cut from the same cloth.

Ha, I don't really know them but I followed them yesterday based on their contributions to this thread. Guess we'll see.

lol, lmao even.

Fine, the phrasing was cringe. I can take an L. The sentiment stands.

 

[Boston Brand]

Typical settler bullshit. Show up, steal the land, violently displace the people who live on it, and claim they started it if they put up any resistance. Israel will never be anything but an extension of the British and then American imperial project. Zionism predates the Holocaust, it was wrong then, and wasn't somehow rendered magically morally correct afterwards. Elsewhere you beleaguer the point about the Holocaust's uniquely industrial character, which I had already conceded in the first sentence of my previous reply. You have apology on hand for every single genocide that happened to someone else.

People should stop reading a back-and-forth between two faggots on the internet and read about Palestine. The One Hundred Years War on Palestine by Rashid Khalidi, Genocide Bad by Sim Kern, Gaza by Norman Finkelstein, The Ethnic Cleansing of Palestine by Ilan Pappé, One Day Everyone Will Have Always been Against This by Omar El Akkad. I can DM you digital copies of any of the above in the format of your choice, don't worry about it. From the river to the sea.

Anyway, going to back off of this now, because of rules on derailing threads.


The movie had solid character design and voice acting and was otherwise wholly mediocre.

Sucks to suck, towlie.

Putting aside that Jews were the original inhabitants of Israel - and Jews were still living there under Arab and British rule - you stop getting to claim its your land once you lose it in war.

Much less lose another half dozen wars afterwards.

Germans don't get to live in Prussia anymore, Mexico doesn't get Texas, and now the Palestinians can look for another patch of desert to shag thier goats.

Too bad, so sad. Don't pick a fight against a nuclear-armed regional military power when your last military innovation was turning your children into frag mines.

Which, to get the thread back on topic, which is why much like Iraq and Afghanistan, the Palestinians count on brainless leftists like Linsday Ellis to throw tantrums on thier behalf here.

The white guilt of AWFLs is a repugnant thing. I don't know if Lindsay is herself a devoted antisemite, I think she’s just a spineless leftist that will regurgitate the party line as soon as its fed to her, so she can keep hanging with the cool kids.

Which is why the Disney cartoon backlash was so wonderful. She really didn't know what to do once the party decided it was her turn to take a beating.

 

[Random Internet Person]

@Boston Brand I’m pretty sure only one person here ITT thinks Lindsay is a devoted antisemite, and that all comes from a failure to understand Hanlon’s Razor.

And the only reason that thinking came to be is apparently Lindsay couldn’t be bothered to take a second look at her manuscript to make sure nobody could take the wrong thing from her Alex Jones tier shadow government conspiracy that drives her story, especially since it’s a story from somebody I assume wants to be taken seriously, along with her story that she feels you need to pay attention to.

The reason I push against this antisemitism angle is because that’s a VERY SPECIFIC mindset where everything written and spoken and every point brought up is pointed and deliberate, and Lindsay has never shown that in any of her work before or since. She just uploads her “I am so smart” content and expects everyone to completely understand her thought process.

And again, while Lindsay’s reaction(s) made for great laughs, I will always say the best parts were 1. It all happened over something so meaningless in the long run, and 2. The mob was so out for blood that this crowd known for overthinking everything and trying to see a big political or philosophical meaning behind the mundane never thought to contemplate Lindsay’s argument.

 

[Liber Nihil]

Changing the topic a little here, but I’ve always assumed the “Lindsay got pregnant on purpose just to use it to make an abortion documentary” narrative to merely be an attempt at trolling her, but do some people here actually believe this in a conspiracy theory kind of way? If you watch the film it comes across as her attempt to make peace with the fact that she really didn’t want to do it and was struggling with a lot of guilt. She even takes comfort from a pro-life church group.

Maybe using it as material for a thesis was tasteless and opportunistic of her, an understandable criticism. But is there any specific reason why it’s considered that insincere by anyone else who’s actually seen the full documentary?

 

[Disco Snake]

If you watch the film it comes across as her attempt to make peace with the fact that she really didn’t want to do it and was struggling with a lot of guilt. She even takes comfort from a pro-life church group.

I don't believe that conspiracy theory. I wish I remember where I heard this, but Lindsey has talked about how the film was meant to be a more objective look at the issue. Apparently her film school professor pushed her to make it more personal. It's really sad in a way. Lindsey whored out one of the most sensitive and emotional decision of her life, and she didn't gain anything worthwhile for it. If her life was a movie, it could be an overwrought metaphor for the film business.

 

[Random Internet Person]

Changing the topic a little here, but I’ve always assumed the “Lindsay got pregnant on purpose just to use it to make an abortion documentary” narrative to merely be an attempt at trolling her, but do some people here actually believe this in a conspiracy theory kind of way? If you watch the film it comes across as her attempt to make peace with the fact that she really didn’t want to do it and was struggling with a lot of guilt. She even takes comfort from a pro-life church group.

Maybe using it as material for a thesis was tasteless and opportunistic of her, an understandable criticism. But is there any specific reason why it’s considered that insincere by anyone else who’s actually seen the full documentary?

I don’t think anybody thinks that. If anything, the only thing that’s left to wonder is how much time was between the abortion and the film being made.

I don't believe that conspiracy theory. I wish I remember where I heard this, but Lindsey has talked about how the film was meant to be a more objective look at the issue. Apparently her film school professor pushed her to make it more personal. It's really sad in a way. Lindsey whored out one of the most sensitive and emotional decision of her life, and she didn't gain anything worthwhile for it. If her life was a movie, it could be an overwrought metaphor for the film business.

I’m struggling to see how that film would be structured.

 

[Hemlock Latte]

I remember the controversy over Aliza Shvartz. She sees the controversy and discourse that her work generates as an extension of the work itself. Her senior thesis was to inseminate herself with donated sperm while ovulating, then take herbs that would induce miscarriage at the end of her cycle. She documented this and displayed photos and videos as her project. The people you'd've expected to have viewed it as a brave act of reproductive autonomy did exactly that, and the people you'd've expected to have viewed it as a psychopathic act of baby murder did exactly that, and it caused quite the controversy centred on the artist and, much to their chagrin I'm sure, Yale, who were quick to brand the work as a work of fiction. The thing is, it most likely was adjacent to a work of fiction. She didn't know she was pregnant, it was entirely hypothetical. I remember being reactionary about it when I first heard about it, as was surely intended, and later softening to the position that most people simply wouldn't actually have an abortion for such a casual, provocative reason. I doubt either Shvartz or Ellis intentionally got pregnant just to have abortions essentially for content.

 

[S@credC]

I’ll always find it funny how since this all happened when #StopAsianHate was at its peak, nobody ever bothered to stop and consider if Lindsay’s argument had any weight or merit to it. And that this happened over something so mundane.

Since Raya left basically NO footprint on the pop cultural landscape, I'll throw her a bone and say she made a good point.

I also can't remember if I read it here or somewhere else, but someone observed that those Asian accounts attacking her were also authors publishing in the same space as Lindsay. If Kidneygate and The Bad Art Friend has taught me anything, writers are a vicious, two-faced group of slobbering opportunists who think nothing of putting on a witch hunt to get the competition canceled via SJW culture wars.

 

[BScCollateral]

I doubt either Shvartz or Ellis intentionally got pregnant just to have abortions essentially for content.

I don't really disagree, but I will say that many's the time I thought, "They can't possibly be that evil/stupid, surely?" only to be disappointed.

Since Raya left basically NO footprint on the pop cultural landscape, I'll throw her a bone and say she made a good point.

I don't see what the cultural impact of Raya has to do with anything.
I do think if a reviewer watched a modern kung fu film and speculated on how it was inspired by Kung Fu Panda they'd rightly be mocked as an ignoramus.

 

[gaysexenjoyer]

Does anyone have the rape rap on-hand

 

[LaughJoke2.0]

Typical settler bullshit. Show up, steal the land, violently displace the people who live on it, and claim they started it if they put up any resistance. Israel will never be anything but an extension of the British and then American imperial project. Zionism predates the Holocaust, it was wrong then, and wasn't somehow rendered magically morally correct afterwards. Elsewhere you beleaguer the point about the Holocaust's uniquely industrial character, which I had already conceded in the first sentence of my previous reply. You have apology on hand for every single genocide that happened to someone else.

People should stop reading a back-and-forth between two faggots on the internet and read about Palestine. The One Hundred Years War on Palestine by Rashid Khalidi, Genocide Bad by Sim Kern, Gaza by Norman Finkelstein, The Ethnic Cleansing of Palestine by Ilan Pappé, One Day Everyone Will Have Always been Against This by Omar El Akkad. I can DM you digital copies of any of the above in the format of your choice, don't worry about it. From the river to the sea.

Anyway, going to back off of this now, because of rules on derailing threads.


The movie had solid character design and voice acting and was otherwise wholly mediocre.

My only comment on this subject will be as a man from the United States who was 22 when 9/11 happen one side celebrated and one didn't so fuck Palestine.

 

[gaysexenjoyer]

Typical settler bullshit. Show up, steal the land, violently displace the people who live on it, and claim they started it if they put up any resistance.

 

[Random Internet Person]

I don't see what the cultural impact of Raya has to do with anything.
I do think if a reviewer watched a modern kung fu film and speculated on how it was inspired by Kung Fu Panda they'd rightly be mocked as an ignoramus.

It’s simple as that. Raya was such a nothing of a film that Lindsay’s career having such a drastic change and such a grandiose reaction from her makes it hilarious. Along with how out for blood everyone was .

 

[gaysexenjoyer]

Raya was such a nothing of a film that Lindsay’s career having such a drastic change and such a grandiose reaction from her makes it hilarious.

I don't think I've seen a single person mention that movies existence since it came out.

More people talk about Wish and that film's discourse was almost entirely about how generic and forgettable it was.