2025 Israel vs Iran War

[karz]

Would you """people""" stop putting anything political into the Community Submissions?

It's not "political" that my tax dollars may be used to fund a third gay retard neocon sandbox war. That's called "I care what happens with my tax dollars," stupid n'wah.

 

[Muad'Dick]

An act that is harmful to the enemy that strips a hospital of its protected status can include the placing of a medical establishment or unit in proximity to a military objective with the intention of shielding it from enemy's military operations. Having tunnels directly under a hospital from where you coordinate attacks definitely falls under that category.

I take it all back. This video was circulating around Telegram a few hours before the strike on Khan Younis. It was obvious the place was being used as a command and control centre because of the overwhelming evidence the IDF presented. Sinwar wasn't just being moved around from pillar to post to avoid detection.

 

[Captain Ahab]

Everyone is focusing on the Ayatollah but there’s a group of pre-selected baby ayatollahs waiting to replace him. It would be a thousand times more impactful if Israel assassinated them instead of the geriatric one. He doesn’t have long anyways.

Thinking the regime will collapse with his death is pure cope. I’m pretty sure they’ve been preparing for his death for many years now.

 

[TJT]

And again. Which of the Ayatollahs in waiting just loves Israel?

 

[A Cardboard Box]

Israel had a chance to not fuck things up completely and just keep to itself, but no.

I don't know what this is in reference to, but Israel has always been surrounded by hostile neighbors which have wanted to exterminate them. Their paranoia and militancy is warranted, even if I still condemn the crimes they commit with their military.

I used to care about and support Israel (muh holocaust), but that ended a long time ago.

I don't know if this is supposed to make me feel a certain kind of way but I could not give less of a fuck. I do not broadly support Israel, I am not Jewish, and I find the Holocaust to be a mass tragedy the same as the Armenian Genocide, the Holodomor, and the Rwandan Genocide.

Now I am completely indifferent to their suffering

No shit, I think I got that by your advocacy for genocide.

I don't know your background to vouch for you.

I don't know why you would care or why it would matter.

IDF targeting civvs is a norm in every day life of a "goy" societies they have around.

Yes I have condemned the IDF and Israel consistently for how dogshit they treat non-Muslim Arabs which have historically sided with them against foreign invaders. I unequivocally condemn violence against non combatants and civilians. It is abhorrent.

 

[N Space]

I don't feel much empathy for any civilian casualities on the Israeli side this time compared to 2023 simply because it was Israel who began the offensive this time, this goes for the bombarded hospital too. Reap what you sow and all that.

 

[Combustion Engine]

There's some reports of power outages after the latest wave, and some fires, but no sign of impacts yet.

 

[MilkSports_2018]

Man, Israel gaffing that map of India really pissed this brown guy off.

india sharing a border with israel is the end game.

 

[Pimp C]

And again. Which of the Ayatollahs in waiting just loves Israel?

Arguably every country that has been regime changed got taken over by bigger Islamists yet they seem to go out of their way to not touch Israel. I don't think it matters.

 

[Dawdler]

I don't know what this is in reference to, but Israel has always been surrounded by hostile neighbors which have wanted to exterminate them.

That's absolutely false.

I don't know why you would care or why it would matter.

It matters to understand your angle.

Yes I have condemned the IDF and Israel consistently for how dogshit they treat non-Muslim Arabs which have historically sided with them against foreign invaders. I unequivocally condemn violence against non combatants and civilians. It is abhorrent.

Good. But in this war, everything is a good target. I don't think anyone in ME is currently being sad about the hospital. Others are just - where you align. I'm sure israelis are butthurt af, but their opinion matters very little anymore. They lost the narrative and just slid into "you deserved that chump".
It's hard to garnish support for a full scale war with US involvement and this for some reason doesn't even change the public opinion. Reading the comments on news the support for the rouge state of israel completely evaporated. Not even the paid shills can keep up.

 

[TJT]

The entire goal of this is supposedly to achieve compliance from Iran. That being no nuclear armaments.

If the next Ayatollah is the same as this Ayatollah and just continues on with the nuclear goal then all of this accomplished nothing. If the West wants regime change at all its because they are hoping or expecting that the next Iranian leader will be willing to comply.

 

[Dawdler]

We will swap leaders until morale improves

 

[Lonely khan]

Israelis will get tired of the sirens eventually and then there will be internal pressure for Netanyahu to come to some sort of ceasefire agreement. I guess this is what Iran is hoping for. They just need to make sure all their missile launchers don't get blown to bits in the meantime.

I could work both ways, it could strengthen the resolve of the Israelis who feel the war is already in motion and the hospital attack justifies the action. I think you'd need months of daily civilian casualties and effective constant tel Aviv bombardment to move the needle against the war. My guess is yesterday's attacks helped legitimize the war effort for the Isrealis. 3 months of sustained successful strikes in major Israeli cities is either going to make Isrealis want to pressure Bibi to sue for peace or to glass Iran.

People that intentionally target civilians, women, and children should be lined up against the wall and shot.

"If you kill enough of them, they stop fighting"

Spoiler: Curtis lemay

Curtis Lemay belived there were no such thing as civilians in war and the quicker you killed them the quicker they surrender and the more lives you save in the long run. He also had the benefit of engaging in a war against the Japanese who had attacked first.

"We are at war with Japan. We were attacked by Japan, do you want to kill Japanese or would you rather have Americans Killed"

In Korea he believed that nuking the north from the get go would have hastened the war and lead to an ultimate victory that could have saved bloodshed.



Whether or not you agree with dropping atom bombs on north Korea of the fire bombing of Tokyo, Lemay is a nice lightning rod for three essential questions in modern warfare

1. Is there such a thing as a civilian in a war
2. Should proportionality be a guidline in war
3. Can you win a war with half measures

His answer to all three questions was "no". I believe in civilians, I'm not a fan of Israeli, Iranian or Palestinian kids getting slaughtered.

I'm also enough of a realist to know that in every war there is always a magic number of civilians you can kill to get your adversary to bend the knee.

 

[Dawdler]

That looks just like a completely insane dude.
If you A bomb a country you just bombed a country
You also lost the support of entire world now and of the civs, permanently
Japs still hate americans and it's not gonna change

 

[Pimp C]

The entire goal of this is supposedly to achieve compliance from Iran. That being no nuclear armaments.

If the next Ayatollah is the same as this Ayatollah and just continues on with the nuclear goal then all of this accomplished nothing. If the West wants regime change at all its because they are hoping or expecting that the next Iranian leader will be willing to comply.

Creating an unstable shithole at or on the brink of civil war perpetually accomplishes the same thing.

 

[Catch The Rainbow]

Much like actually buying a dildo at a sex shop, this is information you should keep to yourself. Same with the gay bunker

Tel Aviv faggots try not to disgust everyone challenge

 

[Leakage Current]

...Are these people fucking retarded? Do they realize what that's gonna do to them and the surrounding given how close both countries are?

It won't do shit even if it was running.

 

[A Cardboard Box]

That's absolutely false.

Go read my earlier post about the 1948 Arab-Israeli War. Please. Israel was literally born out of being fist fucked by the British and fighting an existential war of extermination.

It matters to understand your angle.

My "angle" is that attacks on civilians targets are bad, state sponsored terrorism is bad, and nuclear proliferation is bad.

support for the rouge state of israel completely evaporated.

This is wishful thinking. You should be more realistic. People don't want to fight a war in the Middle East but people still broadly prefer Israel to Iran.

If the next Ayatollah is the same as this Ayatollah and just continues on with the nuclear goal then all of this accomplished nothing.

That's not necessarily true. Regardless of how this pans out, significant damage has been done to Iran's capability to wage war and their regional credibility as a power. Getting their absolute shit stomped will make it more difficult for them to rebuild their proxy network.

Japs still hate americans and it's not gonna change

This is delusional.

 

[Captain Ahab]

Go read my earlier post about the 1948 Arab-Israeli War. Please. Israel was literally born out of being fist fucked by the British and fighting an existential war of extermination.

My "angle" is that attacks on civilians targets are bad, state sponsored terrorism is bad, and nuclear proliferation is bad.

This is wishful thinking. You should be more realistic. People don't want to fight a war in the Middle East but people still broadly prefer Israel to Iran.

That's not necessarily true. Regardless of how this pans out, significant damage has been done to Iran's capability to wage war and their regional credibility as a power. Getting their absolute shit stomped will make it more difficult for them to rebuild their proxy network.

This is delusional.

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Sup with Polish people.

 

[Mad_Dog]

Incredible footage captured this morning by an Arab-Israeli as Iranian missiles rained down on Tel Aviv

Full footage of the battle between Israeli air defenses and Iranian missiles before one of the missile struck the Tel Aviv stock exchange, today. Dozens of air defense missiles depleted