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https://news.sky.com/story/row-over-new-greggs-vegan-sausage-rolls-heats-up-11597679

A heated row has broken out over a move by Britain's largest bakery chain to launch a vegan sausage roll.

The pastry, which is filled with a meat substitute and encased in 96 pastry layers, is available in 950 Greggs stores across the country.

It was promised after 20,000 people signed a petition calling for the snack to be launched to accommodate plant-based diet eaters.


But the vegan sausage roll's launch has been greeted by a mixed reaction: Some consumers welcomed it, while others voiced their objections.

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#VEGANsausageroll thanks Greggs

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Cook and food poverty campaigner Jack Monroe declared she was "frantically googling to see what time my nearest opens tomorrow morning because I will be outside".

While TV writer Brydie Lee-Kennedy called herself "very pro the Greggs vegan sausage roll because anything that wrenches veganism back from the 'clean eating' wellness folk is a good thing".

One Twitter user wrote that finding vegan sausage rolls missing from a store in Corby had "ruined my morning".

Another said: "My son is allergic to dairy products which means I can't really go to Greggs when he's with me. Now I can. Thank you vegans."

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The hype got me like #Greggs #Veganuary


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TV presenter Piers Morgan led the charge of those outraged by the new roll.

"Nobody was waiting for a vegan bloody sausage, you PC-ravaged clowns," he wrote on Twitter.

Mr Morgan later complained at receiving "howling abuse from vegans", adding: "I get it, you're all hangry. I would be too if I only ate plants and gruel."

Another Twitter user said: "I really struggle to believe that 20,000 vegans are that desperate to eat in a Greggs."

"You don't paint a mustach (sic) on the Mona Lisa and you don't mess with the perfect sausage roll," one quipped.

Journalist Nooruddean Choudry suggested Greggs introduce a halal steak bake to "crank the fume levels right up to 11".

The bakery chain told concerned customers that "change is good" and that there would "always be a classic sausage roll".

It comes on the same day McDonald's launched its first vegetarian "Happy Meal", designed for children.

The new dish comes with a "veggie wrap", instead of the usual chicken or beef option.

It should be noted that Piers Morgan and Greggs share the same PR firm, so I'm thinking this is some serious faux outrage and South Park KKK gambiting here.

 

[Chunky Salsa]

At bare minimum, I've seen how shit and squalid people can have it.

My student house at uni was on a road where some working girls used to frequent. Average age looked to be about 60, they were all strung out. They used to literally just have a pile of mattresses around the back of a garage lot, where they and their boyfriends/pimps would just do drugs. I used to get up for a 6am run, and have to dodge around strung out drug users asleep on the pavement.

I like the people I grew up with, and I grew up in a very poor area; I've done a lot of homeless outreach. I wouldn't tar the whole working class with a brush, but the working class does produce some truly world class scum. Real examples of gas chamber bait, real 'feed them to the furnace' type people. They aren't down on their luck, they aren't good honest salt of the earth workers that just need a chance. They are scum.

 

[Whoopsie Daisy]

You honestly believe no working class people exist outside of cities? Everyone who is self-employed, even for cash-in-hand work, is middle class? Come on.

That's a fair question. Is Phil the plumber who is self-employed and raking in £60k+ working class? No, I wouldn't class him as that. Is he middle-class? Maybe. If he is he's lower-middle class, which thinking about it, is probably where our disagreements over classification come in.
There has been a decimation of the middle class with a wedge driven straight through it, pushing the bottom end into a nu-working class. The old working-class that I know; the council estate dwelling chavs, and the working-class that you know; the ex, lower-middle class, are two sides of the same card.
In the same way, I believe the upper class still exist, the old aristocracy and Lords of lands, but they have punted the lower spectrum of the upper-class firmly into the upper ends of the middle-class, in the same way that they were splintered.


Funnily enough that ties into the discussion a page or so back where people were in disagreement with who rules the country, and a spergpost I made here or the conspiracy thread. . The HR luvvies who rule over us through browbeating ideology, do so because they used to be upper class, but the upper class have shed them like the useless anchor they were and ran off into safety, creating a buffer between those with real money, and the face of nu-elite who don't rule us, but believe they do.

 

[ApeBass]

There has been a decimation of the middle class with a wedge driven straight through it, pushing the bottom end into a nu-working class.

I'd say there has also been a decimation of the working class with a wedge driven straight through it, pushing the bottom end into an underclass.
Based on Phil the plumber's background he may consider himself working class or lower-middle class. He may also have been privately educated and rejected the con of university debt and realised he could make more money at a younger age as a plumber, much to his upper-middle class parents' disappointment.

It's not always obvious which social class someone belongs to, there are several factors to consider, not just job title.

 

[Mound Dweller]

Spoiler: personal sperg

Lol I didn’t at any point give any indication as to my personal beliefs concerning abortion, I was correcting wildly sensational info regarding the changes to abortion law and SIDS. For the record, I’ve never had an abortion nor would ever have one, and am literally the furthest point a human could possibly be from a baby killer, seeing as I am in third trimester of growing one

Spoiler: shameless judgement

Indications are aplenty, all we can do is act on the provided output and fill in the blanks m8.
Don't take this the wrong way but your wording has you come across very strongly as a certain bad stereotype, I'm sure you know the one, happy you aren't it, because it's not one of the good ones (tm). Well done doing your part to grow Der Grobe Kiwi Rasse btw good luck with all that

Anyway the potential implications of reckless decriminalisation (anything done that fast is by definition reckless) are much more interesting than any moralfagging/gendersperging over dead babies IMO, sensationalist? it'd say it's downright likely (so far as laws go anyway, I don't buy into the SIDSpiracy, it's a bit silly).

It having the same (unintended (?)) consequences as it did in progressive modern Denmark for example, when they bravely brought everything into line and blanket abolished sodomy offences, and accidentally made legal everything from bestiality to child porn in the process would be a hilarious and horrifying but also a very possible scenario, and I could totally see our lovely gov bumbling right into that, couldn't you?

 

[Le b0wski]

That's median wage, not middle class. A middle class income is variable depending on location. It's hard to define these days, because class used to be a primarily social status rather than a purely economic one. You had blue and white collar workers (physical and clerical), who were both workers, with different social status and similar economic status. The "middle class" was something that only emerged within the last couple of hundred years, as a group of people who weren't workers and weren't clergy or clerical workers, but also weren't the landed gentry. The middle class were - and still are - typically very wealthy. Far wealthier than the definitions popularly used today.

I honestly believe there's been a strong push to break the identity of the workers from multiple directions, for likely mutually opposing reasons that nevertheless end up at the same end state, with half the working class attempting to identify as "middle class" out of shame or ambition, or pride, or just because that's what they've been told to do by the media.

I usually go with the definition of both parents having had degrees so it would typically take 2-3 generations for someone to climb up. Problem is they practically hand degrees out in cereal boxes now so something that was off limits as it was too financially difficult before just isn't now so a degree isn't a sign parents forked out £££ like it would have been a few decades ago.

Also do agree has been a huge push to break the identity of workers, for the most part encouraging every poor person into thinking they will become a footballer or tiktok star or some other 0 to hero thing. They don't work to make stuff better for themselves as they think any day now they will be slingshot out of poverty to never look back.

 

[Zoot]

We're finally on the verge of a race war and driving the BAMES into the sea and you niggers are still on about class war. Get with the times

 

[>IMPLYING]

My student house at uni was on a road where some working girls used to frequent. Average age looked to be about 60, they were all strung out. They used to literally just have a pile of mattresses around the back of a garage lot, where they and their boyfriends/pimps would just do drugs. I used to get up for a 6am run, and have to dodge around strung out drug users asleep on the pavement.

I like the people I grew up with, and I grew up in a very poor area; I've done a lot of homeless outreach. I wouldn't tar the whole working class with a brush, but the working class does produce some truly world class scum. Real examples of gas chamber bait, real 'feed them to the furnace' type people. They aren't down on their luck, they aren't good honest salt of the earth workers that just need a chance. They are scum.

I agree with you about the broad strokes brush part, so I tried making a graph of distribution to help visualise what I can't put into words at the moment. SCUM in this case works on its own merit, or can be used an acronym for: selfish, clueless, unpleasant and manipulative.


More working class = more probability of scum, but it still remains the overall minority of the working class.

I also grew up in a poor. I've gone through a year where my house was a metaphorical dosshouse (I was 11 or 12 at the time, people were drinking when I woke up in the morning and even long after I got back from school, also my first experience with weed, the odour following me to school since the smell soaked into my uniform — fucking awful). I tried to compensate for a lack of money by being posh in effect: speaking clearly, showing no disrespect towards teachers, keeping quiet in class, etcetera — something I saw was lacking in the people I generally grew up around. Yes this made me look autistic as shit. I think you either fully embrace the life you were born into, good or bad, or you attempt some sort of change that hopefully reflects well on your character and your future. You last thing you want to do is rot.

 

[Mound Dweller]

Class is a meme, I know we all like to act like we're spehshul because of our silly social hierarchies and shit, but it's really not that unique; it's just that most of the rest of the world had theirs smashed up by colonisation/WW2/communism so our relatively untraumatic descent from feudalism looks quaintly ordered in comparison.
It's just another tool to pidgeon hole us.

 

[close]

Ladies ladies, calm down - I'm middle class, you are all working class, and the government hates us all equally. Except me because I'm foreign, but let's ignore that.

I had an experience semi-recently visiting a nearby borough that was at the butt of jokes for years in my circle of friends (because one of them lived there) and I thought his tales about how shit it was was hyberbole. It's given me somewhat of an understanding to those I originally perceived to be larping or inconsolably black pilled. I wish I could share the area this was so you can see for yourself on google maps or something but I don't even want to allude vaguely to my area.

Ashton.

 

[Chunky Salsa]

We're finally on the verge of a race war and driving the BAMES into the sea and you niggers are still on about class war. Get with the times

We're just avoiding it, because we know we'll have to shoot @FedPostalService in the race war. I was gonna try and keep him supplied with flour to make himself look white but...

Yeah there's no way we're passing him off. Very sad times.

 

[Mound Dweller]

We're just avoiding it, because we know we'll have to shoot @FedPostalService in the race war. I was gonna try and keep him supplied with flour to make himself look white but...
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Yeah there's no way we're passing him off. Very sad times.

Well I'd let him ride it out in one of my spare barrows, but I already cashed in my "one of the good ones" token for mr Singh (the post office one NOT the chipshop one), so someone else will have to have him.

 

[ParasiteSteve]

Said like someone who's never lived around the working class. Move to Liverpool, spend a week there and then do a back flip off of St Johns Beacon.

I am working class, and I know some people who are not that interested in climbing the ladder, and are family men who enjoy that instead.

Yes, scum also roams the ginnels, looking for bikes to trade in at the stinky scrap man for their latest MCAT fix, but thats not all of them.

 

[Made In Wales]

I’ve just come across one of those landlords accounts that has raised a good point. These SERCO landlord contracts may be violating the terms of their by to let mortgages. Since one of the terms is usually obtaining identification from your tenants. And we know these lot chuck their ID in the English Channel. It may be violating terms of some insurances but I am sure the government will foot any bills so that’s a moot point. I am sure a lot of these scumlords are not going to tell their lender they’ve got illegals in there. When I worked for a bank in the mortgage department one of my favourite query to come across was people who had ratted out their neighbours for having illegal HMOs. If enough people told on these people lenders will likely give issues for these scumlords. One thing the lender I worked for did was added extra to their interest rate as a penalty. Lenders may also tighten up the lending criteria if enough shit happens to these properties down the line.

SERCO also used to have the contracts to 'manage' the grounds of a number of non-league football grounds in Southern England.

The amount of botched jobs and unplayable pitches in early July led to many opting for 4G pitches.

Whilst I prefer grass pitches or the 'desso' pitches, I can understand why many go for 4G, especially if maintenance can be done in house.

Total scum company which needs closing down.

 

[>IMPLYING]

Sentencing guidelines are kaput, apparently.

 

[Made In Wales]

Sentencing guidelines are kaput, apparently.
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Looks like the Government is doing a few 'about turns' as Ed 'Beaker' Miliband is now set to back drilling for North Sea Oil:

https://www.gbnews.com/politics/ed-miliband-north-sea-oil-climate-energy-net-zero

Archive: https://archive.ph/wip/4Mj6e

However, dead Trannies look to have their 'indentity' protected:

https://www.gbnews.com/news/trans-row-biological-sex-of-dead-trans-people-could-be-kept-from-pathologists

Archive: https://archive.ph/wip/1MORM

Also it looks like HS2 will never be completed, time to ask the brainy brethren of Kiwi Farms if HS2 should be kept or axed (mine is to axe it and rebuild the GCR as a through passenger line):

https://www.gbnews.com/politics/hs2-latest-outrage-labour-further-delays-rail-project

Archive: https://archive.ph/wip/qOG8q

Finally, for now, Berkshire travel company collapses - are you going to be affected?

https://www.gbnews.com/money/great-little-escapes-collapsed-holidaymakers-facing-cancelled-summer-breaks

Archive: https://archive.ph/TRz3m

 

[East_Clintwood]

Also it looks like HS2 will never be completed, time to ask the brainy brethren of Kiwi Farms if HS2 should be kept or axed (mine is to axe it and rebuild the GCR as a through passenger line):

Should have been axed the last time we went through this bollocks about HS2 being a clown show..

 

[Coolio55]

It having the same (unintended (?)) consequences as it did in progressive modern Denmark for example, when they bravely brought everything into line and blanket abolished sodomy offences, and accidentally made legal everything from bestiality to child porn in the process would be a hilarious and horrifying but also a very possible scenario, and I could totally see our lovely gov bumbling right into that, couldn't you?

I forsee "non-crime detainment periods" coming shortly afterwards.

We're finally on the verge of a race war and driving the BAMES into the sea and you niggers are still on about class war. Get with the times

It seems that whenever the question of "what do we do with the wogs?" comes up, someone starts derailing about historical class issues.

 

[Le b0wski]

Also it looks like HS2 will never be completed, time to ask the brainy brethren of Kiwi Farms if HS2 should be kept or axed (mine is to axe it and rebuild the GCR as a through passenger line):

You know they are just going to rename it and present a near identical plan for a high speed railway and start dishing out money again. Only reason they would want to stop it is the tories set it up and they can't get out of the tory mates contracts and put in labour mates ones easily.

 

[FedPostalService]

Class does still exist to an extent but only certain classes particularly care about it being the working and middle classes. The lower, upper and ruling class don't really care all that much for reasons relating to them but the working and middle still hold those concepts in very high regard.

Avoiding power leveling but I used to deal with the super wealthy to the regular rich professionally all the time. I can tell you the old school money people were a delight to deal with. I have professional pride so do why job well and they never looked down on me or my North FC accent. You could contact them directly about issues and they appreciate you being forthright. You'd also have some amazing booze appear in the ofice from them at Christmas time.

The twat whose family had only had clean fingernails for a generation or two was always the worst to deal with. He would be a public school snob, try to play up that he was "working class", or, the very worst, a grotesque combination of the two. That was the guy who would say he only had two or three minutes to speak or make you have to deal with a retarded woman who only got the job becasue he wanted to fuck her.

Billy Connelly has a bit about how the people at the top and the bottom were fine, it was the ones in the middle who were cunts.

I think there's a factor of age and region involved that adds further complexity to it. To enter the middle class the household income apparently has to be over earning over £34k a year... Nope! I don't know anybody personally who does either.
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Middle class twat reporting in! It only took my family a thousand years to crawl our way to this level so I'm not ashamed at all to say I am.

 

[Zoot]

>Justice Secretary Shabana Mahood
I'm awfully tired of this shit.