2025 Israel vs Iran War

Japs still hate americans and it's not gonna change
I knew people that were in the US military and were stationed in Japan. They were told to stay away from the older people because they will 100% hate your guts from being alive to witness the aftermath of the nukes. Don't talk to them, don't try to help them, they hate Americans, and American soldiers they hate even more. They basically see you as the symbol of Japanese submission to the West, and the reason why they saw many people suffering for decades after the bombs dropped.

I have heard that the sentiment has been going away as the older generations die off, and the younger Japanese not being aware of how bad it was. Though it's hard to tell with the way Japan has also started to loathe tourists disrupting their lives. They traded one kind of cancer at the hands of America for another.
 
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That's not necessarily true. Regardless of how this pans out, significant damage has been done to Iran's capability to wage war and their regional credibility as a power. Getting their absolute shit stomped will make it more difficult for them to rebuild their proxy network.
Again. We have proven to the world that the key to beating the West is to wait us out.

All they have to do is hold onto power internally and eventually the West won't have enough political capital to spend on the effort. Even if cabals of warhawks do. Just like in Vietnam, Iraq 2003, Afghanistan 2001, and so on.

They will inevitably get proxy groups up and running again. But sure it bought some breathing room.
 
IDF footage of the airstrikes on the Arak reactor:
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Update: Bullseye!
 
That looks just like a completely insane dude.
If you're talking about Lemay there are many that would agree. Watch "the fog of war" documentary about Robert macnamarra
If you A bomb a country you just bombed a country
Yeah I can't debate that statement
You also lost the support of entire world now and of the civs, permanently
That statement probably is more appropriate to half measure wars like Afghanistan and Iraq.
Japs still hate americans and it's not gonna change
I disagree with this statement. The japs had the emperor as their god, when we firebombed and atom bombed their cities we became their new god. And it wasn't a slow turnaround either. My great uncle was part of MacArthur's occupying force after the war and he always claimed it was incredibly hospitable even then, as most of the survivors were women, children and the elderly. Japan was so thouroughly defeated that continued animous towards american GIs was seen as futile. I think if I watched something buckbreak my god and it moved next store to me I might be tempted to bring it muffins.
 
That's not necessarily true. Regardless of how this pans out, significant damage has been done to Iran's capability to wage war and their regional credibility as a power. Getting their absolute shit stomped will make it more difficult for them to rebuild their proxy network.
I think you're wrong about the credibility part. Hezbollah got its shit pushed in in 2006 but took out some Israelis and survived. That alone was seen as a moral victory and boosted its prestige. Anything but capitulation by Iran is going to be interpreted as defeat for Israel. This is the biggest reason why the US will get involved.
Japs still hate americans and it's not gonna change
The Eternal Nip hates waito piggu so much he created anime to troon out their youth
 
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I don't think there's any "quick" solution to the problem of insurgencies - they do not listen to diplomacy and you can't properly bomb every single centimeter of the sand into glass so no sandnigger could hide in there. Jews seem to be content with just destabilizing the region so much it would implode itself into becoming non-problem for thirty years or so before they stabilize enough for another retard-muzlin to decide try making nukes.

Not an ameritard paying for Israel rockets but I am happy that terrorist regime of Iran finally got what it deserved for the last 40 years. Place was deliberately made a shithole, they should try killing more people for not wearing hijab. This will surely bring death to Israel and to America.
 
Sure. But Hamas and Hezbollah are parts of the legitimate governments. They just also dabble in insurgency now and again.

The Houthis are more straight insurgent/extremists comparatively. At least of the more powerful and popular Iranian proxies.
 
I don't feel much empathy for any civilian casualities on the Israeli side this time compared to 2023 simply because it was Israel who began the offensive this time, this goes for the bombarded hospital too. Reap what you sow and all that.
The fact that pants-on-head moron Bibi has the gall to say the bombing of an Israeli hospital is a "war crime" is rich coming from him, considering the numerous war crimes his people have done against Palestinians.
 
"Oh yes goyim, I am totally neutral and pro-white just like you, now help us remove the muzzies from greater Israel, they are a real threat to peace and they hate America!"
Is “greater Israel” in the room with us right now?

That's their best path forward if they intent to keep trying to fight this war, but judging by the most recent attacks, it looks like they are trying to break the will of the Israeli people, which is going to fall flat.
Agreed. Israeli bloodlust and survival instinct is like no other. The more you try to kill them, the angrier they get and the harder your cheeks will get clapped.

zionist "self defense" missile sees penny on the ground goes to pick it up
See this is the type of Jew hate I can respect because it’s actually funny
 
All they have to do is hold onto power internally and eventually the West won't have enough political capital to spend on the effort. Even if cabals of warhawks do. Just like in Vietnam, Iraq 2003, Afghanistan 2001, and so on.
The US people are also gonna get bored of another forever war much quicker this time. Iraq/Afghanistan at least had 9/11 to prop up support for a little while.

If we don't drop bunker busters on Fordow pretty soon I am going to ahead and guess that boots on the ground is the operational plan.
 
Then you're a dumb fuck. It's inhumane to have someone have their face blown off by looking at a pager. It's unnecessary cruel and yes, inhumane.
All wars are dirty wars, but the pager attack was genuinely one of the more surgical and humane ways used in modern times to disable a large group of hostile armed men. If there are any more conventional methods may clear your ethical standards, they are likely more costly and risky and would have killed a lot more civilians and soldiers.

War shouldn't be fought in pitched battles, if only because it's retarded now that we have airpower, guided artillery, mines, tunnels, and extremely sophisticated battlefield vision capabilities.

Anything but capitulation by Iran is going to be interpreted as defeat for Israel.
Largely by people without power, education, status, or much information about the conflict. Arabs and chuds on Telegram, basically, can crow about Iran's extraordinary and miraculous victory.

There is a layer of reality which is not influenceable by team sports bleating, and it's the one where Iran has been set back by a decade at least in power projection capability and its proxies have been severely harmed, and its strategic partners have basically told them to get fucked. Where are the factories and scientists and launchers going to come from, I wonder? Won't replacements be targeted and destroyed as easily as before? Iran has no solution and no clever way out from the strategic impotence they've been experiencing for over a year.

It's true, Israel probably can't destroy Hamas, that is quixotic. It's likely you can't kill a brand as popular and well-loved by grubby, poor west asians as hamas or hezbollah or IS or al qaeda, but you can definitely cut their balls off in public and enjoy the fruits of that labor. One's work is never truly done in reducing the warlike retards of western and central asia to peace.

You also lost the support of entire world now and of the civs, permanently
Japs still hate americans and it's not gonna change
if modern japan doesn't love us no one does
those slant-eyed bastards eat KFC on christmas and think catholicism is fetish gear
that's more american than most americans can really handle with their tiny, mestizo brains

And again. Which of the Ayatollahs in waiting just loves Israel?
Which of them has a chance of survival higher than Khamenei if they don't get with the fucking program? Which of the ayatollahs in waiting can develop AA systems that'll catch an F35, or is impervious to cyber warfare? Any of the ayatollahs in waiting have a plan for figuring out why so much of their senior staff ends up working for Mossad?

Iran's hostility is at this point a strategic vulnerability that will keep them poor and unable to develop and most importantly will keep rockets aimed at their assholes until they have a supreme leader with a vision for Iran that isn't unbounded Shia militancy supported by nuclear blackmail.
 
Is “greater Israel” in the room with us right now
Jesus I hope not, I've got my kids here. Where's my tunnel ferret?

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If we don't drop bunker busters on Fordow pretty soon I am going to ahead and guess that boots on the ground is the operational plan.

The fact that the US hasn't engaged in the air campaign and trump is still making overatures about negotiating with Iran makes me optimistically rainbows that troops on the ground isn't the first option. But I also cant pretend to be good at reading Trump.

Troops on the ground would be without a doubt the end of his 2nd honeymoon and his base would take it as a major betrayal. When people bought into "no new wars" I think the majority envision forever wars like Iraq/Afghanistan. Air strikes won't really hurt him like troop deployments and occupations would.

Like I said I can't read Trump for shit, but it seems like he's looking to avoid even offensive airstrikes at this point. And politically that's his best outcome.
 
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