Ahmedabad plane crash live updates: Former Gujarat CM likely on board; Ahmedabad airport closed

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Published on: June 12, 2025 11:18 AM IST

Ahmedabad plane crash live: As per initial reports, the flight was taking off from Ahmedabad to Gatwick at the time of the crash. Fatalities due to the crash are unknown.​

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Ahmedabad: Smoke billows after a plane crashed near Ahmedabad airport,
Ahmedabad plane crash live updates: An Air India plane carrying 242 passengers crashed after takeoff in Gujarat's Ahmedabad airport. Visuals of the plane crash circulated on social media show plumes of dark smoke in the sky. As per an Air India statement, initial reports, the flight was taking off from Ahmedabad to Gatwick at the time of the crash. Fatalities due to the crash are unknown.



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June 12, 2025 11:18 AM IST

Ahmedabad plane crash LIVE: Pilots made MAYDAY call moments before crash​


Air India Crash live: As per a statement from aviation officials, the ATC stated that the Air India plane aircraft departed from Ahmadabad at 1339 IST from runway 23.

“It gave a MAYDAY Call to ATC, but thereafter, no response was given by the aircraft to the calls made by ATC,” said officials.

The plane crashed outside the airport five minutes after takeoff.
June 12, 2025 11:15 AM IST

Air India plane crash LIVE: Civil Aviation minister 'deeply shocked' after plane crash​


Ahmedabad plane crash: Union Civil Aviation minister Ram Mohan Naidu Kinjarapu stated he was "deeply shocked" after the news of the Air India plane crash in Ahmedabad.

"Shocked and devastated to learn about the flight crash in Ahmedabad. We are on highest alert. I am personally monitoring the situation and have directed all aviation and emergency response agencies to take swift and coordinated action," he said on X.

"Rescue teams have been mobilised, and all efforts are being made to ensure medical aid and relief support are being rushed to the site. My thoughts and prayers are with all those on board and their families," he added.

June 12, 2025 11:13 AM IST

Ahmedabad plane crash live news: Former Gujarat CM likely on board, say reports​


Air India plane crash update: Former Gujarat CM Vijay Rupani is suspected to be onboard the Air India plane that crashed near Ahmedabad airport on Thursday, reports TV9. An official confirmation is awaited.

June 12, 2025 11:08 AM IST

Air India plane crash: Video show thick smoke near Ahmedabad Airport​


Moments after an Air India plane carrying 242 passengers crashed, videos showing thick smoke in the air circulated on social media. Residents living near the Ahmedabad airport area captured the visuals of the plane crash.

As per initial statements, the flight en-route to Gatwick crashed five minutes after it took off.

June 12, 2025 11:02 AM IST

Ahmedabad plane crash live news: Passenger plan was en-route to London's Gatwick at time of crash​


Air India plane crash: As per an official statement from Air India, the plane was en-route from Ahmedabad to London's Gatwick at the time of the crash.

The plane took off at 1:38 PM and crashed near the airport five minutes after takeoff.
June 12, 2025 10:56 AM IST

Ahmedabad plane crash live: Ahmedabad Airport closed​


Ahmedabad Airport has been shut down after an Air India passenger plane crashed on Thursday.

June 12, 2025 10:49 AM IST

Ahmedabad plane crash live: Number of fatalities yet to be confirmed​


As per a report by ANI, at least 242 passengers were on board the plane. An official statement is awaited
June 12, 2025 10:47 AM IST

Ahmedabad plane crash live updates: Air India plane crashes in Gujarat​


An Air India passenger plane crashed shortly after taking off at Ahmedabad Airport. As per reports, at least 242 passengers were on board.

 
@RodgerDodger what’s the thing about the Australian weird zone? I’m curious
Superstition and selection bias, like the Bermuda Triangle. As fun as it is to consider, there's no weird Australian anomaly that magically makes plane systems stop working. If there were, it'd be the scientific find of the century. It'd be marked on maps. It'd be the subject of serious research and conjecture.

But, no, the boring truth is, a bunch of janky puddle-hopping planes happen to go through there, and they tend to be held together with duct tape and prayers, that's all.
 
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Part of his reasoning that the hydraulic system failed is that the pilot didn't lift up the landing gear as would be typical at that point in liftoff- the landing gear is hydraulically-controlled
Well.. If the engines failed soon after take off, it’s not weird that they didn’t lift up the landing gear. First priorities would have been to fly and to figure out what the hell is going on.

The fuel feed system failing? I, nowhere near knowledgeable a enough to say anything for sure, but I’d assume they have back up systems?
 
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Always trust jeets to fuck up the most simple of tasks:

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I hate to defend a jeet but this is actually a very common thing in any horrible disaster situation like this, when there's a lot of people in pieces and your main priority is to get them in bags and get them out of the hot sun. Maybe not two heads in one bag, but getting parts mixed up, one person spread across several bags, and so on. It's not necessarily incompetence as much as expedience.
 
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I hate to defend a jeet but this is actually a very common thing in any horrible disaster situation like this, when there's a lot of people in pieces and your main priority is to get them in bags and get them out of the hot sun. Maybe not two heads in one bag, but getting parts mixed up, one person spread across several bags, and so on. It's not necessarily incompetence as much as expedience.
Well yeah, but this is DAYS after. It’s not a situation of “OMG JUST CLEAR THE STREET OF BODIES!”

At this point, in a somewhat normal country, I’d expect all the bodies to be in some central location and a team of pathologists trying to sort what head goes where.

And sure, mistakes happen. You may get like 50% of your loved one and 5% of someone else in some cases.

Just tossing in TWO heads into a body bag goes a little beyond a slight oopsie.
 
Well yeah, but this is DAYS after. It’s not a situation of “OMG JUST CLEAR THE STREET OF BODIES!”

At this point, in a somewhat normal country, I’d expect all the bodies to be in some central location and a team of pathologists trying to sort what head goes where.
This depends entirely on the scope of the disaster. And presumably we are at the point where the pathologists are opening up the bags and sorting out the pieces, which is why this story came up in the first place.
 
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Well yeah, but this is DAYS after. It’s not a situation of “OMG JUST CLEAR THE STREET OF BODIES!”

At this point, in a somewhat normal country, I’d expect all the bodies to be in some central location and a team of pathologists trying to sort what head goes where.

And sure, mistakes happen. You may get like 50% of your loved one and 5% of someone else in some cases.

Just tossing in TWO heads into a body bag goes a little beyond a slight oopsie.
Gruesome tidbit:

They did full autopsies on all the remains collected from 9/11 and they apparently found a finger that had been effectively shot into another person's torso.

They really wanted to be sure that they could give "closure" to families so their loved ones aren't left with a nagging doubt that maybe Jim was just concussed and wandered off, or maybe he wasn't in the building at all and is living with his secret second family in Hackensack.

The person who would throw two heads in the same bag is the same person who would decide that the oil could go for another ten thousand miles, or who would falsify the tire inflation documentation, or who would decide that the Tenerife air traffic controller DEFINITELY gave them the go-ahead to take off, or....
 
Captain Steeeve agrees:
This jet pilot comments on Captain Steeeve's take and offers a theory of his own:
Captain Steeeve's come out with an updated take:


tl;dw: he flat-out dismisses the ideas of a compressor stall (wasn't making the indicative noise/backfiring), and of the pilots accidentally shutting off the fuel to the engines (it would have to be a very deliberate act).

His two main somewhat-plausible theories- both of which he doubts for various reasons but admits are possible- are either bad/contaminated fuel, or vapor lock in the fuel lines.

He's not convinced of either one and the video is basically to bring them up to express his doubts about them.

But in the comments someone who claims to be a USAF airplane technician gives his take:
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tl;dr: this random Air Force guy's theory is that a catastrophic electrical system failure caused the automatic throttles to reduce power to the engines and by the time the pilots figured out what was going on- if they ever did, with the electrical systems to the controls probably not functioning correctly- it was too late to salvage the situation.
 
Captain Steeeve's come out with an updated take:


tl;dw: he flat-out dismisses the ideas of a compressor stall (wasn't making the indicative noise/backfiring), and of the pilots accidentally shutting off the fuel to the engines (it would have to be a very deliberate act).

His two main somewhat-plausible theories- both of which he doubts for various reasons but admits are possible- are either bad/contaminated fuel, or vapor lock in the fuel lines.

He's not convinced of either one and the video is basically to bring them up to express his doubts about them.

But in the comments someone who claims to be a USAF airplane technician gives his take:
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tl;dr: this random Air Force guy's theory is that a catastrophic electrical system failure caused the automatic throttles to reduce power to the engines and by the time the pilots figured out what was going on- if they ever did, with the electrical systems to the controls probably not functioning correctly- it was too late to salvage the situation.
That would make some sense. That video from the immediately prior flight was the dude complaining about multiple non working electronics in the passenger cabin. This was most likely a sick airplane that had been subjected to lots of deferred maintenance.
 
tl;dr: this random Air Force guy's theory is that a catastrophic electrical bus failure caused the automatic throttles to reduce power to the engines and by the time the pilots figured out what was going on- if they ever did, with the electrical systems to the controls probably not functioning correctly- it was too late to salvage the situation.

I smell bullshit

6. Rat deploys extremely rapidly in the event of a power failure.
7. Hard alternate mode can only be engaged manually so thats one bullshit indicator. 787 manuals specifically state that the change over from normal to soft/hard alternate mode does not reduce thrust or move the thrust levers. In fact it removes any thrust limits and can result in and increase of thrust.

Some relevant parts from a 787 operations manual.
The EEC alternate mode schedule provides equal or greater thrust than the
normal mode for the same lever position. Thrust protection is not provided
in the alternate mode and maximum rated thrust is reached at a thrust lever
position less than full forward. As a result, thrust overboost can occur at
full forward thrust lever positions
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EEC Alternate Mode
If the required signals are not available to operate in the normal mode, the EEC
automatically uses the alternate mode. In the alternate mode, the EEC schedules
N1 as a function of thrust lever position. The alternate mode provides soft and
hard levels of control:
• Soft – When the EEC automatically switches an engine to the alternate
mode and the EEC mode switch remains in NORM, the EEC is in the soft
alternate mode (the switch position is NORM, the EEC mode is alternate).
At a fixed thrust lever position, thrust does not change.
• Hard – When ALTN is manually selected on an EEC mode switch, that
engine is switched to the hard alternate mode (the switch position is
ALTN, the EEC mode is alternate). Reference and target N1, and
maximum and commanded N1 values are displayed on the N1 indication
during the hard alternate mode. Thrust may change to set the commanded
N1 when ALTN is manually selected.
If the EECs are in alternate mode, advancing the thrust levers full forward
provides some overboost and should be considered only during emergency
situations when all other available actions have been taken and terrain contact is
imminent.

Other sections of interest
The autothrottle can support stall protection if armed and not engaged. If speed decreases to near stick shaker activation, the autothrottle engages in SPD mode and advances thrust to maintain minimum maneuvering speed (approximately the top of the amber band) or the speed set in the mode control panel speed window, whichever is greater. The EICAS caution message AIRSPEED LOW is displayed.
Autothrottle disconnect occurs automatically:
• if a fault in the active autothrottle mode is detected
• when either reverse thrust lever is raised to reverse idle
• if the thrust levers are overridden during a manual landing, after the autothrottle has begun to retard the thrust levers to idle
• when both engines are shut down

TLDR: The activation of Alternate mode could only help the pilots as it does not move the thrust levers and removes limits on engine thrust allowing you to exceed the engines max rated thrust and enter overboost.
 
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Another Air India 787 departing from Hong Kong returned to airport after a poo in fuel filter detected light illuminated.

Ohh interesting
Captain Steeeve's come out with an updated take:


tl;dw: he flat-out dismisses the ideas of a compressor stall (wasn't making the indicative noise/backfiring), and of the pilots accidentally shutting off the fuel to the engines (it would have to be a very deliberate act).

His two main somewhat-plausible theories- both of which he doubts for various reasons but admits are possible- are either bad/contaminated fuel, or vapor lock in the fuel lines.

He's not convinced of either one and the video is basically to bring them up to express his doubts about them.

But in the comments someone who claims to be a USAF airplane technician gives his take:
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tl;dr: this random Air Force guy's theory is that a catastrophic electrical system failure caused the automatic throttles to reduce power to the engines and by the time the pilots figured out what was going on- if they ever did, with the electrical systems to the controls probably not functioning correctly- it was too late to salvage the situation.
I read that comment too. Thing is, why hasn't this issue occurred in the 14+ years of the 787 flying around in extremely hot environments already?
 
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That electrical comment kind of ties in with the thing I heard (but still haven’t seen online myself) that the electric system went to shit due to water getting into the housing where the ground power plugs in (apparently causing it to try to switch over to ground power).

But agreed, getting from there to total loss of thrust is a bit hand-wavey.

And how would anyone actually know at this stage.
 
Rat deploys extremely rapidly in the event of a power failure.
This would actually support the power failure idea. However from my understanding the RAT is designed to produce power mainly when there is a system failure at altitude and normal cruising speed. The plane may have not been going fast enough for it to be able to spin up and power everything needed quickly enough.

why hasn't this issue occurred in the 14+ years of the 787 flying around in extremely hot environments already?
The vapor lock? Yeah, a lot of people are skeptical about that. Why wouldn't the same thing happen to every plane coming out of Phoenix or Dubai that's had to sit on the tarmac for a while?

And how would anyone actually know at this stage.
It's fun to speculate.
 
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This would actually support the power failure idea. However from my understanding the RAT is designed to produce power mainly when there is a system failure at altitude and normal cruising speed. The plane may have not been going fast enough for it to be able to spin up and power everything needed quickly enough.
The 787s lithium ion battery system will actually make up the difference in such an event. I am mostly familiar with older airbus aircraft to be honest but I believe the 787s battery being able to serve as a backup to the rat is unique to it though the 777 actually completely lacks a rat and just uses the APU with fuel reserved for it. The 787 will also shed load to all but the most critical systems if needed.
 
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