Disney General - The saddest fandom on Earth

[Betonhaus]

Don't despair, like LLMs you will be able to run these at home in a few years. In a decade you'll be able to make your Blade/Twilight crossover fanfics into a ten-part movie series.

Or Nazis vs Aliens

 

[Unintelligence Score]

Or Nazis vs Aliens

"Sure they may be trying to forcibly impregnate the entire human race before turning us into food, but at least they are not racist."

 

[Doctor of Autism]

Just saw this take from the comments.
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Kinda has me thunking, we tend to see shit like this a lot from directors.

Between this and the state of Marvel, I really think creatives who are divorced should stay away from pre-established IPs, especially divorced men since those guys tend to handle divorce the worst since rather than getting therapy, they just lash out in the most obnoxious ways possible.

Elio Tracking Disastrous Opening Box Office Projections as Pixar Faces One of Its Worst Debuts Ever

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This is what happens when you get rid of the old guard of veteran storytellers and replace them with Millennial diversity hires. The people at the helm of Pixar can't write for shit anything that appeals to a general audience anymore and the adoption of the repulsive bean mouth visuals in all their latest projects doesn't help either. I really hope this is seen as another nail in the coffin for this accursed art style.

I mean it doesn't help this movie is barely marketed at all, not to mention it looks pretty indistinguishable from the films Pixar put on streaming, but what the hell is with that budget, was there some production troubles or is this money laundering.

 

[ZMOT]

As @Mr. Racewar1488 mentioned, once your average fanfic writer gets access to this tech, they'll be making their own miniseries and movies of whatever crossover that comes to mind and the AI will output content that will be within spiting distance of what only movie studios with millionaire budgets can achieve and that is going to spell disaster for the whole of the Hollywood apparatus.

I'm not worried too much. for one those fanfic writers are usually piggybacking an existing IP (especially when it comes to normalfag IPs like star wars now), and the studios will just come after them hard with lawfare. especially since a lot of them try to make money off of patreon etc. which exec will see even more as "taking money out of their pocket". the vast majority of those writers won't work "for free" or even asspats on twitter. established corps also still have a lot more marketing power and pull.

the real "danger" will be new material that will fill the demand western corporations don't want to supply. but at that point they'll just buy it and drive it into the ground like they did with all the IPs before, which means getting bought out will become a valid business strategy, and we'll most likely see the same pumping up as the tech sector (where it's not about making a good product, but to look good enough to get bought out - either to curb possible future competition or add it to the company's assets).

the only hope is you can't really game media the same way as tech, so we'll see how it goes. the smarter corps will probably see what's happening and use it as a cheap idea factory (way back how mods worked for videogames), if their shareholders and hollywood let them tho.

 

[lolcowtipper]

"I just want somewhere to belong..."

Been hearing this line almost word-for-word a lot in kids' media and indie productions these days (e.g. Elio). Kind of pisses me off, tbh. Yes, it's part of the formula for a protagonist, but writers usually show and don't tell it. Idk. Maybe it's just me.

Listen I can relate as an autist to the whole "I just want somewhere to belong" shit but that's like one small facet of me as a person and I'm tired of exploring that over and over and over aagain. Honestly if this is the only message they put out it cheapens it when it's done right.

Side note, I work in childcare and we put on Monster's Inc for the first time for a lot of these kids and I hadn't seen it in years. I had forgotten how chock-full of visual gags there are in every single shot of that movie and it's almost constantly funny in a way that I just don't see in modern Pixar slop. The kids really enjoyed it, especially since the usual rotation these days is Moana->Moana 2->Frozen->Frozen 2->Encanto->Zootopia->Inside out and it was something different.

I actually managed to really connect with a kid who I'd had a hard time finding a connection to because I did the unthinkable--I put on Hercules, a movie about a BOY, a male protagonist. We always put on that same rotation of movies with female characters and he has a sister who is extremely bossy at home and never lets him pick the movies anyway. He was over the moon and not to sound too gay but I kind of feel like he actually felt "seen" in the way these movies are supposed to make you feel seen. And all he needed was a cool guy doing cool stuff. The kids loved it and I put on Rescuers Down Under the next week and they loved that too. So there's hope, but I guess we'll see.

 

[Kari Kamiya]

The kids loved it and I put on Rescuers Down Under the next week and they loved that too. So there's hope, but I guess we'll see.

Their parents not showing them the classics at home hurts to hear, so thank you for doing the Lord's work in putting in the effort to put on older material for them. I rarely see older cartoons playing on the TVs at doctor's offices, and the last time I went to my orthodontist, they had Sleeping Beauty on—and the 4K TV filling in invisible frames to make it look "smoother in 4K" was absolutely dreadful to witness IRL, my eyes felt like they were stroking out. That is not how 24-frames-per-second works, and I know this because I grew up with the movie, and studied animation. The kids haven't, and I fear what the 4K TVs are doing to their brains.

 

[Gorillion others]

Elio Tracking Disastrous Opening Box Office Projections as Pixar Faces One of Its Worst Debuts Ever

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This is what happens when you get rid of the old guard of veteran storytellers and replace them with Millennial diversity hires. The people at the helm of Pixar can't write for shit anything that appeals to a general audience anymore and the adoption of the repulsive bean mouth visuals in all their latest projects doesn't help either. I really hope this is seen as another nail in the coffin for this accursed art style.

The entire premise is already incredibly stupid, and I'm not just stating that.

 

[Grand Duke Snowfall]

You know, I never got the point of changing the name of your social media account (or god forbid, making a whole new one) solely to yell at people to watch the slop of the month in the vain hope that it’ll change anything.


Once again, this is making me want to watch it even less. With how much going to the movies cost these days I’d rather see something I have a good chance of getting enjoyment out of, like the new Final Destination. Or I’ll just stay home, make some popcorn, and pop in an old Disney movie.

Edit: Lmao she is really set on this despite getting torn apart in the quotes.

The racial dynamic thing is more accurate for Elemental but still.

https://x.com/SoapySoapster/status/1935719440970367216

 

[Miriam Margoyles]

OK, but why does that bean-mouthed kid in the Elio movie just have a random eye patch for no reason? I mean, I know that it can be a common treatment for a lazy eye, but does no one fucking refer to it at all? Is it ever brought up in the movie, or is it just shallow 'muh representation' for the sake of 'muh representation'?

It's such a baffling artistic choice for me. I can't understand why you'd design a character with an eye patch for seemingly no explored reason at all, unless the character's like, a pirate or something.

 

[Belvedere]

This hits exactly on why Elio sucks so much:

Elio is the Worst Pixar Movie Ever Made:

TL;DW: Elio has all the hallmarks of a movie made by people who lack experience and qualifications to be at the helm of a high profile production.

 

[Kari Kamiya]

OK, but why does that bean-mouthed kid in the Elio movie just have a random eye patch for no reason? I mean, I know that it can be a common treatment for a lazy eye, but does no one fucking refer to it at all? Is it ever brought up in the movie, or is it just shallow 'muh representation' for the sake of 'muh representation'?

It's such a baffling artistic choice for me. I can't understand why you'd design a character with an eye patch for seemingly no explored reason at all, unless the character's like, a pirate or something.

It looks like a swollen black eye and it keeps throwing me off.

 

[Scientifically Inaccurate]

This hits exactly on why Elio sucks so much:

Elio is the Worst Pixar Movie Ever Made:

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TL;DW: Elio has all the hallmarks of a movie made by people who lack experience and qualifications to be at the helm of a high profile production.

Poor guy on the bottom is trying to explain and give examples for a specific point and the guy above him just keeps interjecting anything he happens to think of at that moment.

 

[Valstrax]

"Just give it a chance <3" This isn't Green Eggs and Ham, faggot.

 

[crunchy bits are the best]

Their parents not showing them the classics at home hurts to hear, so thank you for doing the Lord's work in putting in the effort to put on older material for them. I rarely see older cartoons playing on the TVs at doctor's offices, and the last time I went to my orthodontist, they had Sleeping Beauty on—and the 4K TV filling in invisible frames to make it look "smoother in 4K" was absolutely dreadful to witness IRL, my eyes felt like they were stroking out. That is not how 24-frames-per-second works, and I know this because I grew up with the movie, and studied animation. The kids haven't, and I fear what the 4K TVs are doing to their brains.

I would always show my godchildren some classic animated movies and even cartoons like Droopy, the old Looney Tunes and other animated shorts before the 60's when there's a chance since I want them to appreciate the originals and the old cartoons in the first place. Sadly, their parents will watch any new Disney slop nowadays from the MCU (meh) to Star Wars (gross) since they have Disney+ so they might be brainwashed to think that modern Disney product is good for them.

 

[Miriam Margoyles]

Poor guy on the bottom is trying to explain and give examples for a specific point and the guy above him just keeps interjecting anything he happens to think of at that moment.

I agree. That guy on the top was absolutely fucking insufferable. Dude on the bottom was raising a really interesting point that I'd genuinely never heard anyone make before, and he clearly knew his stuff and was genuinely passionate about it, meanwhile, the guy on the top was doing the standard 'muh DEI' culture war slop you've heard a million times before from a million other middle-aged men who are weirdly invested in getting angry about movies for children - I didn't even necessarily disagree with him, but he was so fucking whiny and low IQ about it, it was genuinely embarrassing every time he opened his fucking mouth.

 

[Scarlett Johansson]

This hits exactly on why Elio sucks so much:

Elio is the Worst Pixar Movie Ever Made:

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TL;DW: Elio has all the hallmarks of a movie made by people who lack experience and qualifications to be at the helm of a high profile production.

I still think they should not have gotten rid of the Florida animation studios tbh. It gave us Mulan.

 

[Rembrandt]

Poor guy on the bottom is trying to explain and give examples for a specific point and the guy above him just keeps interjecting anything he happens to think of at that moment.

"So in Cars 2—"

"I don't like Cars 2 "

"... So in Cars 2"

Word for word, it was so fucking funny.

 

[Drag Tentacle my beloved]

All the character designs in that movie look awful. Not even just the bean mouth kid, but all the aliens. Based on what I know about the plot they're all supposed to be from different planets, but everyone has the same soft, round base that makes it look like they're from the same place and none of them look interesting. They look like bland background characters.

Thank you. I wondered if I was the only one who was seeing this. It's like the designers' brains fell out and they forgot about mammals, birds, reptiles, insects, dinosaurs, plants, mushrooms, humanoids, mechs, all the goddamn things you could draw inspiration from when designing an alien character. Why the fuck do so many of them float?

 

[Mr. ShadowCreek]

I'm spilt on Elio. On one it looks stupid. I'm so tired of these bean-mouth designs that is in everything now. The alien with him also looks like a bunch of alien designs in movies.

One the other hand if this movie fails it would convince Pixar to di more sequels. We won't need an Up 2 or a Ratatouille 2. Coco ended perfectly. The only one I would really like is A Bug's Life 2. Comparing that and the original animation would be amazing.

 

[The Nothingness]

The only one I would really like is A Bug's Life 2. Comparing that and the original animation would be amazing.

I wouldn't have an issue if this hypothetical sequel focused on Dot, who is now queen. It needs a good villain that is on par with Hopper.