Ethan Klein / h3h3Productions - Opportunistic, two-faced e-celeb sperg with a penchant for hypocrisy and an Oedipus complex; sold out to Susan Wojcicki, the incompetent CEO of YouTube

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Who would win in a fight?

  • Ethan Klein

    Votes: 290 3.9%
  • Sam Hyde

    Votes: 7,170 96.1%

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In these types of political feuds it is very normal for each side to react to each other's video, even to just shit on it without making any good arguments. I don't agree with people pretending like this is comparable to Asmon Gold and XqC who practically ran TV channels with stolen entertainment videos at some point.

Denims doesn't just react to the video, she makes political arguments.... which the lawsuit itself tries to debate... proving it's transformative.
Everyone saying this is a "brilliant move" and "will end react streamers" is being dumb. This seems like a malicious action on Ethan Klein's behalf. He quite literally said it himself that he specifically made the video for these streamers and that they were practically expected to react to it; it's the hole point of the slapfight content. Has Ethan ever asked them to stop reacting to his videos? No! I'm pretty sure he spent months demanding Hasan to watch his video on his stream. So it's a very weird thing to twist this into "you're stealing from me without my permission!!!", disingenuous at best, most likely malicious.
 
Only thing it does puts more rules on books for streaming with DmCA& copyright (backroom Deals the first time it happened)
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Only major issue people asking why didn't twitch protect them.
Isn't this twitch fault for ignoring copyright /dmca.

Rule #1 for Video and livestreaming platforms like Twitch and Youtube:

Copyright protections only apply to corporations. Doesn't apply to Youtubers.
 
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I am very happy to hear this news and I hope they both destroy each other, and most importantly DO IT LIVE for my entertainment
Cheers everybody:biggrin:
 
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In these types of political feuds it is very normal for each side to react to each other's video, even to just shit on it without making any good arguments. I don't agree with people pretending like this is comparable to Asmon Gold and XqC who practically ran TV channels with stolen entertainment videos at some point.

Denims doesn't just react to the video, she makes political arguments.... which the lawsuit itself tries to debate... proving it's transformative.
Everyone saying this is a "brilliant move" and "will end react streamers" is being dumb. This seems like a malicious action on Ethan Klein's behalf. He quite literally said it himself that he specifically made the video for these streamers and that they were practically expected to react to it; it's the hole point of the slapfight content. Has Ethan ever asked them to stop reacting to his videos? No! I'm pretty sure he spent months demanding Hasan to watch his video on his stream. So it's a very weird thing to twist this into "you're stealing from me without my permission!!!", disingenuous at best, most likely malicious.
You realize Kaceytron spent more time smoking weed than fulfilling fairuse, Denim's has some weird communist adjacent equation she made up to justify playing other peoples content (copyrighted or not) and I didn't bother watching the frogan part I wanted ice cream. Regardless, all 3 literally admit to playing his video maliciously as well. Even if some judge in Cali throws it out, he can just refile it in Texas.
 
An entire generation, mentally cooked because nobody had the balls to tell literal Communists to go fuck themselves, that we're not getting rid of free speech.
Mccarthy didn't go far enough, and history books painting him as a lunatic when he was 1000% right, is one of the biggest crimes in the education system.
 
What? You mean Ethan? I'm not gonna get a locket with his photo in it or anything but I'm going to celebrate when someone I don't like is beating someone I hate to death with a big stick.

I'm going to say something that might be considered contentious or unpopular but frankly, I prefer scheming whiny Jews over obnoxious self righteous stupid Muslims.

Ethan Klein wants the world to be gayer. The people he hates wants the world to be browner and more niggerish. Gays don't procreate, browns do.

Also the Jews are essentially supremacists who think they're the inheritors of the earth and everyone else on the planet is like a test from God and not really people. A jew could conceivably leave me alone, I'm a goy, as long as it doesn't make him feel threatened I can do what I want. He doesn't care, I don't matter to him.

Muslims are a violent "convert or die" style religion. They by definition will never be able to leave me alone.

I like Jews more than I do Muslims, I like watching L.A "content creators" suffer and frankly Ethan is the funniest guy amongst all his alogs.
Being funny gets you leeway.

Also he's the only guy in his entire area of YouTube or a whatever that has an actual family that he cares about and he's not like a 30+ year old pretending to party in his early twenties like a lot of them.

He's still a faggot but he's the straightest man in faggsville. It's a sliding scale.
 
The legal system, tries, to work on a system of precedent; that is, what has came before. The problem isn't the legal system, the problem is so many soulless fucking retards playing fast and loose while also purposely stepping on other people's toes. This isn't the legal system's fault, it's the fault of petulant fucking children having gay feuds in a space none of them truly understand, or what their actions can mean.
My point is if the legal system breaks because of "petulant fucking children having gay feuds", it was never fit enough to survive anyway. Everyone is tired of rule by judge anyway. If one judge ruling stupidly means every judge has to rule stupidly like lemmings dropping off a cliff, then blame them, and not some random Youtuber not liking chair content.
 
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The lawsuit against Denims literally says her content is transformative.....

Do you guys remember why the term "lolsuit" was invented? It's for these lawsuits. Paging Dr. Nick Rekieta.

The lawsuit literally starts with quotes to artistically represent it's cause in page 1.
Page 2 says "This lawsuit is about ending the practice of lazy reaction videos".
At page 73, (after literally dozens of pages debating Denim's arguments, proving the video is transformative), the lawsuit admits Demins makes a transformative use of the video....

Failure to state a claim??
This lawsuit is so crazy maybe the "case file" numbering thing was shopped, maybe this is all a prank, can't be real.
 
Mccarthy didn't go far enough, and history books painting him as a lunatic when he was 1000% right, is one of the biggest crimes in the education system.

You say that but I blame the rich assholes that buy everyone from the local city console to every Judge, to every US politician.

So what is the counter to stop them?
 
I would like to state for the record while I support Ethan doing this for entertainment reasons it's a stupid lawsuit purely due to how he's going about it. Admitting it was a trap and also having the lawsuit say "she's anti semitic" while also calling her work transformative Because she's anti semitic is just stupid.

I think the lawsuit isn't just doomed I think it's never going to show up in front of a real court or even a judge.
 
not my intention to kiss the ring, but the first thing about this is, realistically, if any of them seriously apologized or ideally just made a decent length apology video renouncing their actions, promising going forward to #dobetter and hell, for bonus points maybe doing a quick apology to ethan klein and hila about the shitflinging or denouncing cps shit etc, POSSIBLY up to offering to be on their show and #geteducated or whatever the fuck, ethan would look more like a dick by not doing a retraction than gain. but they fuckin won't and will probably triple down on "this fuckin KIKE JEW GENOCIDER wants to fuckin SUE ME?? A political activist good guy #hailallah #killjew influencer celeb?? give me some money NOW."

additionally, his point about trying to make people have a bit of fear of god in them stands, otherwise if you just get damn near 25% of streams just being "uh yeah let's just watch the entirety of one piece" then adpocalypse will happen again and further. leniency on people just having gameplay streams etc will get tighter and affect across the board.

plus any single one of these people would sue him if they saw blood, denims in particular already recently tried, it's not like he's suing "bill, 10 viewer breadtuber quirky ""activist"" that made a 5 min react", and realistically the only real way to deal with people like that and to make people trying to push the boundaries of ducking fucked shit like cps, threats, defamation, accusations etc is "ok no im just going to pull out the fucking glock (court case)". any one of them would refuse to retract the shit too over "all the children he's killedTM". personally if anything and have to moralfag imo h3 and hila are businessman evil, and hasan and his ass munchers are stupid evil, and i'd cheer for smart evil. sorry, not going to cry if violent troons wind up Tiananmen Square'd, or if people like that get fucked. wouldn't cry for asmongold either far as that goes because he's one of the most boring fucking "ok guys let's watch this video about the sky. yep. mhmh. yes. the sky is blue. what do you guys think? let me know if you think it's blue. twitter says it's actually green and of course i suck their dick about their opinion." >asmongold has now earned more money than you will today
 
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The lawsuit against Denims literally says her content is transformative.....

Do you guys remember why the term "lolsuit" was invented? It's for these lawsuits. Paging Dr. Nick Rekieta.

The lawsuit literally starts with quotes to artistically represent it's cause in page 1.
Page 2 says "This lawsuit is about ending the practice of lazy reaction videos".
At page 73, (after literally dozens of pages debating Denim's arguments, proving the video is transformative), the lawsuit admits Demins makes a transformative use of the video....

Failure to state a claim??
This lawsuit is so crazy maybe the "case file" numbering thing was shopped, maybe this is all a prank, can't be real.
I think the yet to be released one against Kaceytron is way fucking easier than the denims one but I dunno, the stated goals of trying to deny viewership is still uh

A barrier for Denims and the like to overcome.
 
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