2025 Israel vs Iran War

I guess the Axis of Resistance really is over... Now we have the Turkroaches as the only relevant ME power that is kind of is against Israel, o algo...
Unless Erdogan croak more sooner then he expected and his dream to revive the Ottoman empire dies with him.

Btw, that article might be rated optimisitc.

June 20, 2025

Ayatollah Biden’s regime is already changing​

By Frank Friday

They say generals always want to fight the last war. So too, a lot of pundits always want to protest the last war. Tucker Carlson was one of many journalists who supported the Iraq War but is now an isolationist, unlike his buddies Pat Buchanan and the late Bob Novak, who were always against it, sensing yet another Israeli plot.

To be sure, George W and his team of knuckleheads, like Dick Cheney, Condi Rice, Colin Powell, and God help us, David Frum, had no idea what they were getting into in 2003.

President Trump, impressively though, is neither an isolationist nor an international blunderer. If you recall his 2017 inaugural speech, he condemned “forever wars” but also promised to destroy the ISIS terror group running amok during Barack Obama’s tenure.

Trump was successful. He organized local forces in Iraq and Syria to wipe out ISIS with a just a handful of American advisers. He brutally insulted NATO, saying they must do more in the way of defense spending, which is now happening. And unlike Obama, he heeded the call for weapons to Ukraine during his first term, allowing them to fight off the Russian invasion.
 
Israel assassinated more important figures but it feels like iran did more damage to israel.
It helps that you can't really tell the difference between a pre-bombed and post-bombed Iran. :smug:

AlJazeera dump.
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(WTF? I'm Pro-Israel now?!)
Activists damaging planes.

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Even Russia wants regime change - oh no, Ayatollah-bros! And what's more, they think it's only possible with US help (which could just be a tactic to get the US involved to ruin American in-roads into the region via the Saudis and Egyptians.
 
I was imagining these missiles to cost only 100k or so since they are home made design but the real cost is real around 3-5 million + launcher + storage. So basically every time they launch a salvo of 10 they burned 30 million USD
THAAD interceptor costs 13 mill tho and each arrow is 3 million so the cost is split for weaker interceptions and significantly increases for Fatah later versions.
For F-15 it's 40kUSD/hr so just straight flight to iran's range and back is at least 3h. This cost is really insignificant compared to missiles even at 200k for a bomb.
There's an article on this: https://economictimes.indiatimes.co...ic-barrage/articleshow/121932247.cms?from=mdr

While Israel may run out of missiles, Iran, even if they have them stored have no means of getting them in air. Low saturation attack won't do much.
My issue with this analysis is it only accounts for fuel requirements for the aircraft delivery of smart bombs and not the mandatory maintenance and repair post-flight
 
A kamikaze drone was destroyed in the Shahr-e Rey district, south of Tehran, and a mini drone was brought down near the Tehran Oil Refinery, the local Mehr News Agency reported, citing an Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps (IRGC) statement.

Reports claim another assassination attempt just now in Tehran’s Gisha neighborhood — an apartment in a residential building was attacked.

A wave of Israeli Air Force strikes this morning destroyed some 35 missile launchers and storage sites in Iran's Tabriz and Kermanshah, the military says.The IDF says 25 fighter jets were involved in the strikes, during which "more than 35 infrastructure for the storage and launching of missiles" were hit.
Watching Steve yesterday was so boring, Iran's missile launch capability is dead for the most part. I doubt we see another strike like the hospital one and if we do they're going to be few and far apart to reposition the launchers. Israel still using suicide drones tells me there are still localized spots they don't have full air control of though, not that it really matters because it's inevitable they do as shooting the drones down is just asking for your SAM or AA battery to get bombed next.
 
3. He says he's ready to step in as a transitional post-Mullah leader but does not need the official title of Shah for that job, specifically states that trying to restore the monarchy ASAP would be 'putting the cart before the horse'. My assessment remains unchanged, this dude probably does actually want to become Shah Reza II but he's willing to keep playing the long game (he's played it for long enough already after all) and only seek the throne through gradual, legitimate-seeming channels (presumably including acquiring the Iranian people's support & trust as a non-monarchic transitional leader, winning elections to a post-Mullah presidency/prime ministerial office, getting monarchist parties to win parliamentary elections, etc. before trying a restoration referendum or w/e).
if this is actually his plan then it is wise.
if he had the throne handed to him by foreign powers, his legitimacy would be zero and he would just be seen as a foreign puppet forever.
if he can get the country to install him as ruler organically he's set up for a much longer reign.
 
Scoop on
@Jerusalem_Post
: Prime Minister Netanyahu, IDF Chief of Staff Zamir, Defense Minister Katz, minister Dermer and other senior Israeli officials held a discussion last night with U.S. Vice President J.D. Vance, Defense Secretary Pete Hegaeth, and additional senior members of the U.S. administration, Source of knowledge tells me.
 
reminder these guys literally produce oil and yet have an energy crisis, they arent the most competent
Like in east Germany. Some of the state owned factories could produce high quality stuff that could rival western products. But the normal east german pleb would not see any of it because all these products were sold to other countries and the money went to funding the Stasi and the wall.
 
Unless Erdogan croak more sooner then he expected and his dream to revive the Ottoman empire dies with him.

Btw, that article might be rated optimisitc.
https://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2025/06/ayatollah_biden_s_regime_is_already_changing.html https://archive.ph/3ktk3
Yeah that's an oddly optimistic article.

I wouldn't be surprised if Iran has tried contacting people repeatedly about getting some kind of ceasefire going only to end up with Trump's side wanting to give them the cold shoulder. Since any kind of deal to let things peacefully end would involve Israel having to compromise to some degree and Trump isn't going to demand that of them.
 
I doubt many will accept the job since they're now cannon fodders.
That's assuming those "appointed" get a choice. I'd be more worried about the amount of competence they're burning through, they're probably already at the point of "promoting" people who aren't ready. Once those get "martyrd" they'll be going even further down the list.
 
How do you even come to this conclusion? "If scientists working on a nuclear weapons project are legitimate targets, then all Israelis are legitimate targets because they served a conscription stint in the IDF!"

That is a supremely bizarre point of view.

I'm not even arguing that Israel assassinating scientists is legal or moral, I'm just baffled at why you think it's okay to shoot literally any adult Israeli merely because they did a (legally required) conscription stint.
It’s removing people who are legally obligated to assist the military effort if asked.
Fact is that the scientists that Israel merked while they slept in their civilian apartment block are…civilians. Israel sets the example then cries when it comes back to bite them
 
Even the military installations were not a legitimate targets as they posed no threat and were not in active combat. Any measure of decency evaporated since Israel launched the attack.
The nuclear angle is now knowingly false and their narrative collapsed.
 
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