US US Politics General 2 - Discussion of President Trump and other politicians

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Should be a wild four years.

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Members of the Trump Administration
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[SaidNoOneEver]

There Are Nearly 15 Million Vacant Homes in America
https://www.realtor.com/news/trends/states-with-most-vacant-homes/

Most of the public land being proposed for sale is unliveable. And probably will be bought up by large developers so your average person will not see any benefit from it.

Virtually all of the land west of the Mississippi River was "unlivable" at some point in the past 250 years. Build a road nigga.

 

[mold]

I'd argue that the best way to fix this is to have someone nut up and address the immigration issues.

the way you fix this is you grind until you have a down payment, then you live in a shitbox that you fix up, then you sell the shitbox for at least three times what you paid for it

your life sucks for a few years but then it takes off exponentially

people who are sitting in booming real estate markets who can do nothing but whine about how they can't afford a house are sad whiners who can't manage their own lives. one of the biggest regrets I have in my life is being snookered by people like this when I was a young woman in CA in the 90s. If I had followed my instincts and bought shitboxes I would be even richer today than I am! more importantly if more people had done this back in the day instead of falling for whiny bullshit we would have all have had a shot at turning things around.

Owning property is the basis for everything, you do not matter if you don't own property. If you really can't manage it go somewhere else, but you probably can manage it.

 

[DumbDude43]

"dude just become a real estate investor lmao" certainly is a creative way to dismiss the housing crisis, i have to give you that

 

[Cromwell]

The Eternal Anglo needs strong jacked muscular men to do the will of Ted Cruz.

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Only in America

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[Honka Honka Burning Love]

"dude just become a real estate investor lmao" certainly is a creative way to dismiss the housing crisis, i have to give you that

"Become the retards that help cause the problem" is always a great solution to a problem.

 

[Nefarious Elliot]

There Are Nearly 15 Million Vacant Homes in America
https://www.realtor.com/news/trends/states-with-most-vacant-homes/

Most of the public land being proposed for sale is unliveable. And probably will be bought up by large developers so your average person will not see any benefit from it.

15m is less than a 5% per person overmatch, roughly the same as unemployment. Of course, there is an average of 3 people per household, so more like a 15% overmatch. Still not absurd, the big problem isn't vacant houses, it is and has been for a long time... houses bought by developers and turned into permanent rentals! This is what has to be stopped, deed restrictions and hoas need to be eradicated, developers need to build houses and sell them to people and leave. That's it. Corporate entities must not be permitted to own large quantities of single family homes. Force them to sell them off. Drive down the price so zoomers and millenials can afford them in the forseeable future... and fuck boomers...

 

[CaliforniaRaisin]

Also unlivable land? You underestimate modern construction equipment and human tenacity. I've seen houses built on the side of mountains. It can be done

Who do you think ultimately PAYS for that engineering and earthworks management measures taken to build houses in and on land that isn't stable or even enough for a foundation? That shit gets passed directly from the engineering and earthworks contractors, to the builder and onto price of the house. And it's significant.

When I have lived here most of my life and can't afford a proper house, that is a problem. Humans need habitat too. And if people won't stop coming, we need more houses. That simple.

See above.

 

[God of Nothing]

"dude just become a real estate investor lmao" certainly is a creative way to dismiss the housing crisis, i have to give you that

we must deport all niggers and unamericans
and also get rid of retarded regulations
kill HOAs while we're at it

 

[WelperHelper99]

I'd argue that the best way to fix this is to have someone nut up and address the immigration issues.

It would help. It won't fix every other state moving here. There is no way to ban Californians from moving here and dramatically overpaying for a house and driving up the property value.

 

[mold]

"dude just become a real estate investor lmao" certainly is a creative way to dismiss the housing crisis, i have to give you that

go ahead and keep going with your external locus of control, see how it works out for you

 

[No-Eyed Square Guy]

The "TACO" deal is one of the lamest attacks they've cooked up with Trump because it's not as though they like whatever he's supposedly getting cold feet on

Logic has no part in it. They're trying to sound manly. They don't know how to do it because they don't know any men who aren't faggots or TV characters written by women. Men not only don't say "chicken out" like they're kids in an After School Special, they very, very rarely accuse other men of any kind of cowardice. Women do it constantly, because they don't know what it means.

 

[NoReturn]

When it comes to the American west, I want you all to know that it didn't originally look like this:

Those scrubs exist because the large animals that ate their sprouts are gone, so they're allowed to grow rampant. It doesn't have to look like that:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cJZIdEsg5AU

I have zero faith that anyone is going to do this, though. People just want to buy and develop. There will be well-wars where people will drill lower and lower into the aquifer and the tragedy of the commons will strike again until already-shitty land becomes Tranchified.


And that's to say nothing of the light pollution that will come from it all.

 

[Judex Meus]

the feds have to control your state because mormons are a permanent direct threat to the federal government

I can't believe I'm siding with the feds on this

 

[The One Who Sneeds]

There is no way to ban Californians from moving here and dramatically overpaying for a house and driving up the property value

I hate Californians so much that every time I see a Cali license plate here, I enter a blind rage. It's unbelievable the damage they've done to Utah by swarming the housing market like swarms of locusts. Also I've been noticing a lot more negros around here. It's over...

 

[quaawaa]

I hate Californians so much that every time I see a Cali license plate here, I enter a blind rage. It's unbelievable the damage they've done to Utah by swarming the housing market like swarms of locusts. Also I've been noticing a lot more negros around here. It's over...

It's not the Californians, it's the immigrants. Most Californians who left are more conservative than the locals (the blue voters see absolutely nothing wrong with their state and are afraid they'll die without abortion/trans surgeries if they move to a red state) and there are relatively few of them. They're just a politically acceptable target to hate because you can't talk about who is really behind the housing crisis without being accused of racism/xenophobia.

 

[Necrosan]

When it comes to the American west, I want you all to know that it didn't originally look like this:
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Those scrubs exist because the large animals that ate their sprouts are gone, so they're allowed to grow rampant. It doesn't have to look like that:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cJZIdEsg5AU

I have zero faith that anyone is going to do this, though. People just want to buy and develop. There will be well-wars where people will drill lower and lower into the aquifer and the tragedy of the commons will strike again until already-shitty land becomes Tranchified.
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And that's to say nothing of the light pollution that will come from it all. View attachment 7532251

I mean, that's something that RFK Jr. was looking into, I don't know how much they'll let him do and the "activism" is balls deep in the carbon footprint schpiel.

It will always be a numbers problem though, you just can't keep cramming people in the country. They gotta let the population decline a bit and do something about how fast the most useless groups reproduce/come in.

 

[Jace on ice]

Democrats are so mad at Trump not wanting another Middle Eastern war that I'd say there's a 70% chance that by Monday they forget they're supposed to be the pro faggot and troon party and call Trump gay.

 

[WelperHelper99]

I hate Californians so much that every time I see a Cali license plate here, I enter a blind rage. It's unbelievable the damage they've done to Utah by swarming the housing market like swarms of locusts. Also I've been noticing a lot more negros around here. It's over...

I fucking know. They take a house that is actually worth 100k, and now it's 500k. We all know it's bullshit, but that's how the Californians work, they overpay for a house and drive up the price of the neighborhood. And yes, there is a lot more diversity now a days

 

[Bindo]

Doesn't sound like a lot to me. Especially in my state. This is spread out across America. What asking price nigger?

Also unlivable land? You underestimate modern construction equipment and human tenacity. I've seen houses built on the side of mountains. It can be done

Alpine construction can be done, but it won't be done to alleviate a housing shortage. The only people doing those sorts of projects are AirBnB investors (currently a crashing/crashed market) or rich assholes building a lodge/retreat property that they are going to helicopter into.

You know why Detroit is basically a ghost town now? And it's not because of nigger density, that was an effect. Detroit is a dead issue because nearly 100% of the city's economy was propped up by the presence of American auto industry. If you don't have the light and heavy manufacturing base propping it up the music, sports and nightlife, no one smart wants to deal with the weather or the location (or now the nigger density).

Now, what is the attraction for the average rentoid to relocate to the interior of the Olympic Peninsula? The mass of people you think are going to take advantage of this affordable new housing are not going w/o UberEats, nail salons, or a <40 minute commute time to their job. People who ARE willing to do without those things already are, paying ~$200 an acre for the ability to get the fuck away from the people in the first group.

And 15 million is a metric fuckload of single family homes. Some of those are in places like Detroit or Baltimore, and are effectively tear-downs until TND or one hell of a eminent domain revitalization is enacted. Banks, hedge funds and private equity schemes are sitting on a ton of empty homes as well, hoping the value is going to skyrocket. It's less expensive to let them sit than it would be to pay for the logistics of renting them out.

Also, while listing prices are dropping, the properties are still not transacting. Sales volume of existing homes looks a LOT like 2008-2012, but the median transacting price is up over 2x from that time, https://en.macromicro.me/charts/31/existing-home-price . So the listing prices are dropping, but no ones buying because they either don't want what is available, or can't afford to. Social media brainrot is probably not helping in this regard.

 

[Drunken Fox]

It's not the Californians, it's the immigrants. Most Californians who left are more conservative than the locals (the blue voters see absolutely nothing wrong with their state and are afraid they'll die without abortion/trans surgeries if they move to a red state) and there are relatively few of them. They're just a politically acceptable target to hate because you can't talk about who is really behind the housing crisis without being accused of racism/xenophobia.

To follow this up, the few I know who are die hard blue voters who moved to other states have ended up moving back to California because they can't stand the political environment. I mean I don't have more than anecdotal evidence of this, but I've seen it happen to quite a few.