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Should be a wild four years.

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"Built" implies to me that it won't be made in America, but put together here. They throw "designed" in there to throw you off more. If that's true, they're very aware of how they're manipulating people, which I already think is the case. I'm sure there's some scam with the call-centers too. At least large call center operations seem to have moved to having a few people in the US but all the supervisors and at least a good deal of the staff are in poor Central and South American countries.

'Eventually': Eric Trump admits new mobile phone isn't being made in the USA​

Archived: https://archive.ph/z9z5K

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH. He even makes sure to say "built" and touts a St. Louis call-center that I couldn't find any details on. In fact, all I could find is that St. Louis has no knowledge of any call center.

"FOX 2 has reached out to multiple sources in the City of St. Louis and the St. Louis region to determine if, where or when a Trump Mobile call center may open. Spokespeople for Greater St. Louis Inc. and the St. Louis Mayor’s Office both said it did not have any information to share over the Trump Mobile announcement or remarks."
(Archive won't archive this link for some reason)

I always think of MAGAs buying MAGA hats made in China and get a weird sense of satisfaction that it's all a giant bullshit grift.
 
Betteridge's law of headlines.

Is the Anti-Trump Opposition Getting Its #Resistance Back?
The New Yorker (archive.ph)
By Jon Allsop
2025-06-20 10:00:00GMT

How the movement might cohere—if it does at all—remains an open question.
Earlier this year, Gavin Newsom, the governor of California, launched a podcast that promised direct conversations with people he disagrees with. In reality, it featured him sucking up to figures from the MAGA Extended Universe. In the début episode, the guest was Charlie Kirk, an influential young right-wing activist and commentator; Newsom suggested that his thirteen-year-old son was so excited to meet Kirk that he wanted to skip school to attend the taping. (Newsom didn’t let him. “C’mon,” Kirk objected. “You cancelled school for like two years!” Newsom seemed to find this funny.) The following week, Steve Bannon came on the show and said that the 2020 election was stolen; Newsom let this slide. Recently, in the wake of the protests against immigration raids in Los Angeles, Kirk and Bannon have returned Newsom’s hospitality by, respectively, calling him “the fakest person I’ve ever met” and comparing him to John C. Calhoun. Newsom, for his part, has pushed back strongly against the Trump Administration’s militarized response to the protests, challenging Tom Homan, President Trump’s border czar, to arrest him (“Come and get me, tough guy”) and tweaking Trump himself in TikTok memes inspired by “Hamilton” and Taylor Swift. With enemies like these, who needs friends?

Jay Caspian Kang pointed out in this column, in March, that Newsom’s podcast always seemed doomed to fail—not to mention “embarrassing”—because his conciliatory approach was out of step with polling that indicated liberals want to see Democrats fight Trump’s Republican Party, not get along with it. In a different column, Kang similarly took issue with a school of thought, advanced most explicitly by the veteran strategist James Carville, holding that Democrats should “roll over and play dead,” allowing Trump to burn himself out. As Kang put it, this strategy never seemed viable, either, and several recent developments signal that playing dead is, well, dead. Newsom’s newfound combativeness is one example. Another came last week, also in relation to the L.A. protests, when Alex Padilla, the normally mild-mannered California senator, confronted Kristi Noem, the Homeland Security Secretary, at a press conference, and was forced to the floor and handcuffed by federal agents. This week, there were similar scenes in New York City, where agents arrested Brad Lander, the comptroller and a candidate for mayor, while he was accompanying a migrant in immigration court. In between, millions of anti-Trump demonstrators protested across the country under the banner “No Kings.”

It’s possible to see all this as the dormant resistance to Trump finally awakening. But that isn’t really correct. As I wrote in the first days of the new Administration, Trump’s opponents may not have marshalled anything like the enormous Women’s March of January, 2017, but civil-society groups had started to organize their supporters, and many of Trump’s early moves were quickly challenged in court. Since then, there have been a lot of protests—even more, by one count, than in the equivalent stretch of Trump’s first term—though the media, as Kang noted, hasn’t always covered them to the same extent. Newsom may only just have found his voice, but other leading Democrats—the Illinois governor, J. B. Pritzker, for example—never lost theirs. Earlier this year, I felt sure that this sort of activity would spread and intensify, as it now has, if only because Trump’s political project ultimately requires resistance—which generates conflict—in order to thrive, and he will keep pushing until inevitably provoking his opponents. Newsom is a case in point. His grovelling may have been of some use to the likes of Kirk and Bannon, but he’s much more useful as a foil, an avatar of a woke élite that’s imperilling America. Being a foil may be useful to Newsom, too. One ally told NBC that if Newsom were to be arrested for supposedly obstructing Trump’s immigration raids, it would be his “Nelson Mandela moment”—a comparison that has surely not been made before, and hopefully won’t be again.

We are, unfortunately, at the point in this column where I must capitalize the word “Resistance,” and maybe add a hashtag for good measure. As I’ve previously noted, with these accoutrements, the word comes to signify something more than merely fighting back, becoming freighted with the cultural signifiers of the liberal opposition to Trump’s first term. (Think “Notorious R.B.G.” tote bags, Jimmy Kimmel proposing that Trump become a ceremonial king in exchange for going away as President, the cast of “Hamilton” confronting then Vice-President Mike Pence.) As Trump returned to office, this #Resistance did appear to be dead. Now Newsom is posting “Hamilton” memes, and Jimmy Kimmel has shown up at a “No Kings” protest. I do still think we’re in a different moment. (The old Twitter is gone, for starters.) But the basic animating spirit of the #Resistance has clearly survived.

Still, it remains an open question what a new Resistance might look like, how it might cohere or be channelled. In February, Kang posed precisely that question in this column. He toyed with historical precedents—Goldwater Republicanism, the Tea Party—but found them imprecise and largely unhelpful. He described the contours of a “nü-Resistance”—which he characterized as “angry, oppositional, and ideologically chaotic,” and severed from various pillars of the Democratic establishment—but wasn’t yet sure where that energy might go.

Nearly half a year later, we have some new data points. The framework of a Democratic Tea Party remains unhelpful—but something is going on inside (and, now, outside) the Democratic National Committee, which has recently been riven by threats to primary complacent incumbents (and, now, Democrats who support going to war with Iran). These tensions have been whipped up, most notably, by David Hogg, the Parkland shooting survivor turned activist turned short-serving D.N.C. vice-chair. (After other D.N.C. leaders clashed with Hogg, his election was invalidated on procedural grounds, and he ultimately declined to run again for the post.) And Newsom, Padilla, and the “No Kings” protests appear to have harnessed some of the loose energy recently.

But other reported efforts to counter Trump’s appeal—throwing money at influencers in the hope of finding the “next Joe Rogan,” a project to study “the syntax, language and content” that appeal to young men—demonstrate the limits of top-down attempts to cultivate political energy, as well as the persistent staleness of the institutional Democratic brand. At this stage, it seems to me that “young men,” never as homogeneous a voting bloc as imagined by post-election pundits, are vastly more likely to get bored of MAGA than to be seduced by the political equivalent of Steve Buscemi with a skateboard asking them, “How do you vote, fellow-kids?” More substantively, the ideological contours of the new Resistance still feel unsettled. Uncompromising opposition to Trump’s most brazen maneuvers does increasingly look like a unifying approach. But, even there, consensus is not yet total. Some Democrats have fretted that Trump’s L.A. crackdown is bait to distract them from kitchen-table issues. Gretchen Whitmer—the governor of Michigan and, like Newsom, a leading candidate to be the Democrats’ next standard-bearer—has pursued a strategy of working with the Administration. If Newsom’s podcast supplied the most humiliating audio of the new Trump era, the most humiliating image was surely a photo of Whitmer physically hiding in the Oval Office as Trump signed orders to investigate a pair of first-term officials who went on to criticize him. This hasn’t seemed to hurt her standing—at least in Michigan—and she has been able to tout some policy victories, most notably obtaining new fighter jets for a local base.

As with Newsom, I suspect that Trump will at some point drive Whitmer past breaking point. (Already, he has suggested that he might pardon the men convicted of trying to kidnap her, in 2020; what happens if he attempts to send the Marines to Detroit?) Then again, the notion that Newsom started his podcast with the pure intention of reaching out to MAGA, only to be met with actions that he couldn’t possibly accept, may underplay his political cunning. It’s not hard to imagine Newsom embarking on the podcast—which, as Kang noted, immediately went down horribly with the Democratic base—knowing full well that he would soon be back in Resistance-leader mode, but seeing it, in the interim, as a useful way to distance himself from progressive totems that he perceives as toxic (for instance, trans athletes competing in girls’ sports, which he disavowed to Kirk), or something to point to and say, “Look, I really did try reasoning with these people!”

And this is assuming that Newsom actually has pivoted away from the podcast-conciliation strategy, which isn’t clear, even if he certainly has moved toward Resistance leadership. As recently as June 4th, he posted another cloyingly folksy conversation, this time with Dr. Phil, who described himself as “the least political person I know” before extolling family values and weighing in on “pro-Hamas” protests on college campuses; two days later, the L.A. raids began. (Dr. Phil was on the scene, having been granted special access, for some reason, to document immigration-enforcement actions.) Last week, Newsom was interviewed on “The Daily,” the New York Times’ flagship podcast, and without any prompting stressed that he has “no problem meeting with people and talking to people I disagree with,” as “some of your viewers and listeners may know.” Asked about his podcast, he indicated that he still sees it as “incredibly important” to show “a little humility” toward his adversaries, and to listen.

Back in February, Kang concluded that, when it came to the emerging opposition to Trump, “what we are seeing is not a shift in policy preferences but, rather, the dissolution of traditional political logic in this country.” I’m not sure I’d go quite this far. It’s perfectly logical, in light of how Trump is behaving, that the opposition is intensifying; it is also not surprising—or necessarily concerning—that Democrats haven’t yet articulated a coherent new policy platform less than a year on from a priors-shattering defeat. But Newsom and many of his fellow-Democrats do seem to be trying to have it both ways—to prove that you can joke around with Steve Bannon and post “Hamilton” memes about Trump without disappearing down the gaping chasm between those acts. When I last wrote about Trump resistance in this column, it was to argue that it will have to coalesce, if it does at all, within a fragmented media ecosystem; Newsom, perhaps, is trying to game the choose-your-own-adventure quality of this ecosystem by putting out different content that might seep into, and resonate within, very different filter bubbles. I think this is doomed to fail because it (and he) is palpably inauthentic, and authenticity—or, rather, the perception thereof—is king in this media environment. But someone else might manage to do it. If the new Resistance remains hard to define, that’s partly because it’s still early. There’s no inevitability of neat coherence down the line. One thing is for sure: the mass protests will continue.
 
Iran's been within 2 weeks to 2 months of achieving a nuke for the past 20+ years. Come the fuck on, get some new material.
I'd love for someone to break down to me in precise technical terms what exactly they'd need to do to make a nuke operational that would only take 2 weeks. If its that close how do they know for sure that a bombing campaign would actually affect the timeline? Seems like they'd have to do a ground invasion and search under every rock in the nation until they made sure it was clear of nuclear material otherwise they'd never know for sure.

It could be perpetually 2 more weeks to the bomb unless we take drastic measures to defend our greatest ally.
 

'Eventually': Eric Trump admits new mobile phone isn't being made in the USA​

I'd love to meet the kind of person that unironically buys Trumpcoin or a Trump phone thinking it's not going to be shit.
One thing is for sure: the mass protests will continue.
Might as well say, "The faggots will keep acting like faggots".

Nigger, you can't have a Joe Rogan because your party despises everything that Joe Rogan is, and every dude that works out, that has a normal life, that has discipline looks would never look at the left because there is nothing they can offer him.
 
I'd love for someone to break down to me in precise technical terms what exactly they'd need to do to make a nuke operational that would only take 2 weeks. If its that close how do they know for sure that a bombing campaign would actually affect the timeline? Seems like they'd have to do a ground invasion and search under every rock in the nation until they made sure it was clear of nuclear material otherwise they'd never know for sure.

It could be perpetually 2 more weeks to the bomb unless we take drastic measures to defend our greatest ally.
I'd say you're asking for the impossible; because Iran seems to exist in some weird perpetual state of being the most dangerous threat but also a paper tiger. Israel is apparently so engrained in their country, they were able to setup multiple places to launch that attack a few days ago, and know everything that Iran does; but is also somehow really scared of them because they're crazy and all that other shit they say. Whether they do or not, I don't know, and I half-ass don't fucking care; because WMDs is one of the lies sold to us to go into Iraq after 9/11, and that was years after numerous "NATO inspectors" claiming Iraq has WMDs, they just move them around a lot. Israel apparently has all the data and that seems to require us to enact military action, and I'm fucking sick of it. If Iran is that close and they do get a nuke, I hope they fucking wipe Jerusalem and Tel Aviv off the fucking map.
 
I'd love for someone to break down to me in precise technical terms what exactly they'd need to do to make a nuke operational that would only take 2 weeks.
The Israeli ads I keep being recommended on YouTube claim that Iran already has enough enriched material for 9 nukes, so I guess they are claiming it takes 2 weeks to build a reaction chamber?
 
Iran's been within 2 weeks to 2 months of achieving a nuke for the past 20+ years. Come the fuck on, get some new material.
I'm forced to come to one of 3 conclusions:

1. Israel and the media (i repeat myself) have been lying to us for literal years that Iran was weeks away from making nuke in which case there's no reason to believe them now.
2. Iran has had the capacity to make a nuke for 20 years and they haven't yet which really makes you wonder why we're freaking out about them.
3. Iran has had the technical capacity for years but they're so retarded they can't figure out how to actually do it which also makes them a lot less threatening.
 
1. Israel and the media (i repeat myself) have been lying to us for literal years that Iran was weeks away from making nuke in which case there's no reason to believe them now.
I'd put all my money on this; as I already said, WMDs was one of the lies sold to us to go back for Iraq Part 2. Never found any WMDs either, but our intelligence and Mossad swore they were there. That just moved a lot faster and in the wake of 9/11, so it was probably a much easier sell. But I remember hearing about how Iran is the biggest threat to stability in the region and how they're gonna nuke Israel and then the USA, in that exact order; and after a decade or more of hearing the same shit and it's always just a minute or two till the midnight launch, I stop fucking caring and believing... and if I'm wrong, fucking Crying Wolf Syndrome. If you're gonna claim there's an existential threat, like they do, you go in and you do to Iran what you did to Gaza; I mean, you're capable of doing that right?

It's one of the gayest fucking dog and pony shows that's gone on for way too long.
 
I'd love for someone to break down to me in precise technical terms what exactly they'd need to do to make a nuke operational that would only take 2 weeks. If its that close how do they know for sure that a bombing campaign would actually affect the timeline? Seems like they'd have to do a ground invasion and search under every rock in the nation until they made sure it was clear of nuclear material otherwise they'd never know for sure.

It could be perpetually 2 more weeks to the bomb unless we take drastic measures to defend our greatest ally.
Assuming you have fissile material, the next difficult part is getting the intial explosion right so you get criticality. You have to focus it so the explosives go off at exactly the right time and in the right way, otherwise you just made an impractical dirty bomb.
 
This conservative civil war happening on Xitter over federal land ownership is gay. The people melting down over the idea that we open up a fraction of a percent of the worthless land out west for development as if we're talking about paving over Yosemite and building strip malls on it are retards.

Hot take: The federal government should own zero land outside of military installations. Privatize the national parks.
 
This conservative civil war happening on Xitter over federal land ownership is gay. The people melting down over the idea that we open up a fraction of a percent of the worthless land out west for development as if we're talking about paving over Yosemite and building strip malls on it are retards.
Correct
Hot take: The federal government should own zero land outside of military installations. Privatize the national parks.
But this is probably why they think the Mormons are going to pave over Yosemite lol.
 
How do these people even live? Like imagaine wearing a mask in the year 2025. Like tpwhats that even supposed to accomplish anymore? The fuck does “disengage from willful ignorance of reality” supposed to mean, its an empty gauge statement that means nothing. How does one not participate in capilist gluttony then? Like you need food so you buy it from the store, wait isn't that capitalist okay so maybe a farm, but wait again in ordeer to maintain even a small farm you need land and things like tractors fertilizer and even a few others to properly maintain it. Also “engeage in direct action” bitch you are on xitter you are not contributing shit to the “good fight”.
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Portland (June 18) — A Reddit video reportedly shows a man angrily ramming his car into a group of rioters after they taunted him near the ICE facility encampment. The post claims the local resident was frustrated by protesters blocking the street.
 
I'd love for someone to break down to me in precise technical terms what exactly they'd need to do to make a nuke operational that would only take 2 weeks. If its that close how do they know for sure that a bombing campaign would actually affect the timeline? Seems like they'd have to do a ground invasion and search under every rock in the nation until they made sure it was clear of nuclear material otherwise they'd never know for sure.

It could be perpetually 2 more weeks to the bomb unless we take drastic measures to defend our greatest ally.
Obviously, America or Israel “accidentally” leave a nuke in Iran, now we need a full scale invasion to get it back.
 
Fyi, I've got low flying military jets in the air around my place at a much higher rate than normal. Every time they train around here something dumb happens in the ME.
What a lovely shitshow on Trump's end. The Russia-Ukraine peace deal to end within 3 days went nowhere. New Middle East faggotry even the FEDS don't want to bite, Israel sticking their fingers in pies they shouldn't even have. I hope it backfires on Israel and Iran becomes Iraq 2.0 because it sure as Hell looks like that's gonna happen again. "We're freeing you Iran citizens from your dictators we're on your side"
Iran citizens proceed to become guerillas and now Iran is in a worse shithole than it was before.
 
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