2025 Israel vs Iran War

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I can't seem to find any report saying that, where have you seen it? thanks
Two reports of smoke at Israel's Soreq Nuclear Center, geolocated the area of POV 31.9096985,34.7382722

It would appear that there is also a military base in the area.

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They wanted to build a 200,000 population city named Yamit directly west of Gaza to seperate it from the Sinai but it never exceeded 3,000 people, but most of the settlements were based on the Gulf of Aqaba
Yeah it didn't work out because they were all remote

So why doesn't Israel give up it's illegal settlements?
Easier to supply and keep settlements in the West Bank than in the ass end of the Sinai
 
Iran is considering leaving the NPT claiming they have a legal right now. Makes me wonder if they have more nuke bunkers.
Bluster. I'm sure they have some nuclear infrastructure left but the nuclear threat, for the time being, has been neutralized. Iran is trying to protect strength and confidence after the strike, but it's meaningless.
USS Liberty was hit at am on June 8th at 2pm, Israel invaded the Golan at 7am the next day
It's my opinion that the USS Liberty incident was not an accident, but I also believe it was not an attempted false flag to drag the US into the war. After reading testimonies and declassed documents, it is my opinion that the Israelis were paranoid about the US passing along information to the Arab states. I think this was based on US policy at the time in Africa and staunch anti-colonialist US sentiment at the time. It should be noted that this was going on at the same time as the Rhodesian Bush War, the Portuguese Colonial War, and right before the Biafran War, which would start about a month later. All of these showed the US, shockingly, agreeing with the Soviet Union on decolonization and self determination. The US helped levy sanctions and support UN resolutions against Rhodesia and colonial states. More importantly, this is not long after the Suez Crisis, where Israel was an integral part of Operation Musketeer to seize the Suez Canal. The resolution to the Suez Crisis, for those not aware, was the US leveraging significant diplomatic pressure to force the UK, France, and Israel to essentially capitulate and return to status quo ante bellum.

This is my unified theory, again, just a theory, but, with the facts we have, I find it to be the most reasonable: The USS Liberty was a spy ship, Israel knew of its existence and its nature. Israel, concerned that the US would pass along information on Israeli troop movements or preparations, potentially spoiling their upcoming operations, decided to bomb the USS Liberty to prevent the possibility entirely. I believe they had prepped the fog of war excuse as a cover-up beforehand, and I think the US pragmatically went along with it, because the alternative would be severe US public backlash against Israel, at a time of significant instability in the region and the US being overstretched already, with Vietnam rapidly escalating.
 
Why does this video omit the fact that the Liberty was 10 times closer to the the distance it was ordered to maintain?
Because the person making the video is a lying Arab who relies on the fact that no one checks what he's saying. If you disagree with him, you're just a shill.

The Iranian MP tells Tasnim that withdrawing from the Nuclear Non\-Proliferation Treaty and closing the Strait of Hormuz will be on the agenda\.
 
It's my opinion that the USS Liberty incident was not an accident, but I also believe it was not an attempted false flag to drag the US into the war
I disagree with you on the not an accident thing but anyone who believes the Israelis would want the US to enter needs to learn their history. Would have been a huge net negative for Israel.

US air Force used OSINT to trick everyone

I was part of the US Air Force influence, and I didn't know it.
The bombers who came out west towards Diego Garcia flew the most visible way that could be expected on an operational flight, deliberately.
The US Air Force knew that there were full osintrials, and everyone focused on the west movement.
About an hour after take -off 6 other bombers took off, with complete quiet and flying east.
Their aerial refueling were not public, they did not speak the visible network.
The bombers who flew west really came to Guam, so everyone concluded that there was no assault in the immediate time.
Immediately afterwards, the bombs began to fall off the bombers who flew east.
Bravo for the U.S. Air Force, which was able to use the International Osint community to outwit the enemy.
 
late and gay due to yuropoor time zone but I've been playing factorio recently and this just reminds me, when I set up a massive Kovarex enrichment chain 2 days ago to mass-produce uranium 235 for nukes only for a bunch of biters to attack the thing because I forgot to plop down a few laser turrets for defense. I was on Gleba during all of it but luckily had a few laser turrets and repair packs in my bot network so it wasn't a big deal fixing it. Still, pretty funny coincidence
 
Because the person making the video is a lying Arab who relies on the fact that no one checks what he's saying. If you disagree with him, you're just a shill.
People believe what they want to believe — especially if they’re too proud to admit they don’t understand logistics and lack knowledge of the context and background of the events. That’s exactly what we’ve been seeing ITT from day one, too. All the salt in the world won’t change reality to conform to their delusions, but we can still enjoy watching the saline flow anyway. I know I am.
 
And the US spent 10 years trying to mediate its release back to Egypt. If the US had invaded Egypt after a false flag attack on a US spy ship, it would be in their interest to give Israel control over the Suez instead of handing it back. Because the invasion did not happen, Israel eventually (reluctantly, and after trying to colonize it for both that entire decade and the preceding decade) gave it back.

If you believe the 2-hour long attack on a clearly marked US war ship during a clear, sunny day by one of the most sophisticated military powers in the world is anything but deliberate you are a fool. You exist to be exploited by people smarter than you. You are the raped.
Not sure why you think America attacking Egypt would have meant America backing Israel keeping the peninsula when America tried very hard even at the nadir of relations under Nasser to split Egypt from Moscow. America very swiftly changed its mind on how strong it wanted post-war (West) Germany and Japan to be when muh Cold War geopolitical considerations butted in. But it wouldn't have ever changed its mind about Israel holding the Sinai if it had attacked Egypt in 1967? Even though it badly wanted to take Egypt out of the Soviet camp and put it in the Burger camp? And Egypt wanted the Sinai back really really bad?

In the indirect negotiations between Egypt and Israel with the US as the go-between the Israelis asked if returning the entire Sinai was non-negotiable for Sadat (they wanted to get Sadat to agree to increasing the size of the Gaza Strip which would be kept in Israeli hands), Secretary of State Vance told them yes it is, Sadat will not make an agreement that doesn't give him the entirety of the Sinai (minus the Strip, if you consider Gaza to have been part of the Sinai). Israel said fine. I suspect you read somewhere that Israel was reluctant to give back the Sinai and never bothered to look into it more

Ever hear about Omar Bradley getting strafed repeatedly in broad daylight by US A-36s in Sicily, despite the USAAF being one of the most sophisticated military powers in the world that extensively trained its pilots on target and visual signal recognition, and Bradley's tanks released yellow smoke flares, the established friendly signal across the Western Allied armies, multiple times? The pilot of an A-36 that was shot down when Bradley finally told the tanks to shoot back successfully parachuted and said he didn't know wtf yellow smoke meant when asked

Ever hear about the two PT boats bombed and strafed repeatedly by US planes when trying to dislodge another PT from a reef, after it had been strafed and bombed earlier that day by that US planes and had run aground on the reef? Most sophisticated US pilots with extensive training in what their own ships looked like. They destroyed all three PT boats then had fun strafing white American sailors floating in the water multiple times

Ever hear about the RAF repeatedly strafing multiple American units in a small area in Normandy over the course of an afternoon months after D-Day? Despite, again, repeated yellow smoke flares being lit by the Americans on the ground and the RAF being one of the most sophisticated military powers in the world

You call people retarded so often, but looks like it's incomprehensible to you that people can make really retarded mistakes, when you want to believe it was impossible for them to do so in specific circumstances. Because that clashes with something else you already believed. Even though there are in fact examples of other people making the same mistake to the same degree of retardation and not even having a possible ulterior motive to explain it
 
Arguing over the USS libtard is pointless because regardless of the outcome of that discussion specifically peoples views towards Israel, it's foreign policy, and American foreign policy will remain the same. You guys are writing paragraphs about this shit when you could literally just talk about the undeniable lobbying that Israel does within the US government and or the statements made by Israeli politicians regarding the US. It's been obvious since 1948 that Israel has the full intention of colonizing the Levant and anyone saying otherwise is a retarded faggot or shill, the end.
 
You call people retarded so often, but looks like it's incomprehensible to you that people can make really retarded mistakes, when you want to believe it was impossible for them to do so in specific circumstances.
You don't have to go back to WWII, the Turks sank one of their own destroyers during the invasion of Cyprus in 1974:
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If you do want to go back to WWII, the most relevant example is probably the time based Uncle Hortler's Aryan superchuds in the Luftwaffe managed to kill *600* German sailors in the North Sea:
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But yeah, @Null is a retard who pretends to expertise in subjects he's too lazy to do the most basic googling about, so not worth the effort.
 
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Not sure why you think America attacking Egypt would have
"would have meant all this other shit that only makes sense in the context of the US not retaliating for Egypt sinking a spy ship off its coast".

I appreciate the length of the response and the effort involved but you've predicated the entire thing on extant circumstances and not hypothetical circumstances.
 
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