2025 Israel vs Iran War

Caligura said:
Isn't Saudi Arabia still a lot more strict than Iran? If you go beyond their closed-off wannabe Dubai cities or ventures.
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the population of saudi arabia is much more islamist than that of iran, you are right in that regard, but the regime is not. the saudis foreign policy is mostly pragmatic, trying to do what's best for the state and the family that rules it.

Qui-Gon's Gin said:
Iran has women in elected office while the Taliban doesn't let women leave the house.
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yes the afghan population is much more islamist than the iranians, their way of life reflects that, and while the taliban regime are obviously really hardcore islamists, they mostly care about internal afghan business and do not seem to take much interest in global affairs.
they were like that during their first time in power too, it was just mullah omars autistic obsession with pashtun traditions (a host must shelter guests under his roof from any who would persecute them, which to omar meant he had to shelter bin laden in his country and not allow the americans to take him) that made them a target for the burger army in 2001. they decided that sheltering and defending americas most wanted enemy was a good hill to die on, if they had given him up instead they would probably have remained in power for many decades, uninterrupted.
 
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Vertigo said:
People are reporting of explosions in Fordow. Anyone got anything concrete about that?
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There's been a couple of Israeli drones getting shot down. The Axis of Retardation Telegram channels I follow are claiming it was quadcopters so it's local assets checking out the air defense in the area before the B-2s come in.

The Ghost of Tehran is on patrol around Qom, ready to shoot down every B-2 that dares to violate the air space of Iran:
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DumbDude43 said:
the population of saudi arabia is much more islamist than that of iran, you are right in that regard, but the regime is not. the saudis foreign policy is mostly pragmatic, trying to do what's best for the state and the family that rules it.


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yes the afghan population is much more islamist than the iranians, their way of life reflects that, and while the taliban regime are obviously really hardcore islamists, they mostly care about internal afghan business and do not seem to take much interest in global affairs.
they were like that during their first time in power too, it was just mullah omars autistic obsession with pashtun traditions (a host must shelter guests under his roof from any who would persecute them, which to omar meant he had to shelter bin laden in his country and not allow the americans to take him) that made them a target for the burger army in 2001. they decided that sheltering and defending americas most wanted enemy was a good hill to die on, if they had given him up instead they would probably have remained in power for many decades, uninterrupted.
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You seem to be confusing assertiveness with radicalism. The Iranians are assertive, but their actual policies are still much more moderate than those of the Saudis or the Taliban.
 
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Qui-Gon's Gin said:
You seem to be confusing assertiveness with radicalism. The Iranians are assertive, but their actual policies are still much more moderate than those of the Saudis or the Taliban.
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I am personally contacting the Ayatollah to inform him that his myrmidons are obviously slacking on the job. The hundreds of thousands (it is probably in the low millions tbh) of Iranians jailed, beaten, tortured, murdered by them since 1979 for violating muh Allah says and/or being perceived as threats to the Islamic revolution and republic are rookie numbers and they should be ashamed
 
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Lats of Peace said:
I think I'm officially a boomer to remember vividly the run up to 2003. Same shit, different day. That war was the start of the decline and this one will finish it off. It's depressing.
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It's like a mix of Gulf War and Iraq. If Iran drops some chemical weapons on the Kurds they're gonna hit every bingo card and Lindsey Graham and the ghost of Stormin' Norman are gonna be bothering Trump in the bathroom every time he takes a shit.
 
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Qui-Gon's Gin said:
You seem to be confusing assertiveness with radicalism. The Iranians are assertive, but their actual policies are still much more moderate than those of the Saudis or the Taliban.
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no, i'm differentiating between internal vs external affairs
saudis are pretty hardcore islamists when it comes to governing their own country, but on the international stage they are pragmatic and reasonable. they cooperate with foreign states (including america) based on whether such cooperation benefits them or not, regardless of ideological or religious differences.

iran may have less backwards internal policies than the saudis, but on the world stage they are all "DEATH TO AMERICA! DEATH TO THE JEWS! MUSLIMS RISE UP!"
loudly antagonizing america (and israel) like that comes with almost no upsides, but a lot of very severe downsides. sperging out against the burgers and kikes is not a rational position to take for them, so why are they doing it? because they are fanatics and the clerics have decreed that allah wills it, that's why.
 
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