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If your goal is to capture the city then sure, you need men on the ground. But if you just want to destabilize and crippled the enemy, bombs from above are more than capable.
Yes, and what do you think happens when you pack up your catapults and leave?

I seriously wonder what you think the point of 'staying around' in the sandpits in the original foreverwars was, or what regime change is actually attempting to accomplish.

I can promise you the answer to that is the same reason you would see it happen here to a country of ninety million people.
I am surprised at how many normie Christians aren't supporting it. Give me rainbows but I find it a little white pilling tbh.
There are more resources available and people out there doing the good work to increase actual biblical literacy. Dispensationalism is dying, thank God, as a result.
 
If your goal is to capture the city then sure, you need men on the ground. But if you just want to destabilize and crippled the enemy, bombs from above are more than capable.
And that's what we did. Their nuclear facilities and scientists are dead. They have been set back 100 years. And IF they itch for a fight in the Strait of Hormuz, there goes their navy
 
oy vey, the Groyper done unmasked me,

Fuck you retarded nigger, fuck every sandpit shithole. The only reason i want the muslim removed before the kikes is that kikes are just a satanic pedo cult instead of a satanic pedo DEATh cult like the towelheads.
Where do you think all these Iranians are going to go when Israel turns the entire middle east into bombed out, chaotic shithole run by roving warlords (To the few places it isn't that already because of our "interventions" that is?)

You think Israel gives a fuck if a flock of persians take refuge in Europe, Canada, or the US?
 
if you actually point out the hypocrisy, you will get downvoted to oblivion before your post gets deleted by an admin, so it's no different then reddit.
You might be receiving trash can stickers because you say idiotic things. The only part of your post that approaches lucidity is where you mention western hegemony building bases around Russia while pointing the finger, which is indeed hypocrisy, but also the direct result of Russia carving up the region in the past to further pseudo-communism. Modern day Russia remains a shithole and is not shy about claiming eastern Europe is akchyully Russian clay because of some irrelevant, misremembered, five hundred year-old history. Ukraine did not initiate their war, Russia did. The U.S. bases exist because Russia has not become any less retarded nor aggressive over the centuries, and most European nations would rather have the U.S. bases than spend increasing amounts of money on military spending just to stave off the regional retard.

The rest of your post is faggotry like
The bare bones truth is that if you're capable of killing someone without batting an eye, then you have more power than 99% of the people out there, which is why you're immediately locked up by the system. because you pose an actual threat.
Look at all the politicial assassinations that have occured throughout the past 100 years. Murder is the only real form of power. everything else is an illusion built on ideology.
 
But a boat that got hit 50 fucking years ago in a friendly fire incident in the middle of a warzone at a time when naval hailing relied on HF and morse code is such a nothing burger if you know anything about naval combat.
The pilots saw the US markings on the ship, told their commanders that it was american and were ordered to fire anyway.
What does Iran have that could close the Strait that we can't counter is the real question. Is it something that magically makes the Strait closed that we can't do anything about?
Being able to remember things that happened more than 5mins ago is apparently impossible for most people
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I am pretty surprised by how many of my evangelical friends and family are only half-heartedly supporting America's attack on Iran, if not outright opposing it. One "we should support God's chosen people" Gen X'er has done a complete 180 in the past year and now thinks Israel is run by Satan and that modern Jews are demon-possessed. She fully believes America is run by Israel. She's begun to "notice" how often degenerate agendas are pushed by Jews in politics and academia and journalism. She's bought a copy of the Talmud to read and study. She got into a fight with her family over the strikes on Iran last night, the first time she's ever brought up these recent views to her family.

Another "God's chosen people" person said, "Well I think the Jews are close to God's heart but I don't think we should support everything they do and I think a lot of our pro-Israel politicians do more harm than good in the Middle East." This person is a Boomer.

Several of these folks told me they've been studying the effects of dispensationalism and the Scofield Bible in recent months/years and no longer support Israel or think Jews are super special. I don't think I have spoken to a single evangelical under the age of 40 who buys the "God's chosen people" line.

I'm not surprised Trump threw his weight behind Israel and bombed Iran. I am surprised at how many normie Christians aren't supporting it. Give me rainbows but I find it a little white pilling tbh.
Unthinking Israeli love is a Boomer Evangelical thing, the younger generations are more open to being realistic about the whole think. Also related, the Boomers love the concept of the Rapture because it's the ultimate Boomer-Style end of the world. They get to skip out on the consequences of the world they allowed to happen, it's very Boomer coded, so bringing about the return of Christ is a think they'd be interested in.

A thing to remember though is that Iran isn't some innocent bystander in all this. A lot of the casualties in our Iraq misadventure were caused by Iranian produced and supplied weapons, they've been waging a proxy war against various parts of the West through terrorist organizations, and Team Blue is directly responsible for giving them billions of dollars they then used for that purpose and probably nuclear development. We have reasons, apart from Israeli ones, to smack the Iranians in the dick. Also, it is in our interests to occasionally remind the rest of the world that we do still have a big stick, even if it might not be what it used to be.

I have a feeling there's a lot of Chinese generals with somewhat puckered assholes right now, very concerned about a particular dam.
 
But a boat that got hit 50 fucking years ago in a friendly fire incident in the middle of a warzone at a time when naval hailing relied on HF and morse code is such a nothing burger if you know anything about naval combat.
They gunned down the lifeboats as well, according to the survivors. This was no accident, it was no incident. It was an act of war, and they got away with it.
It would be like somebody telling you in your youth not to like nintendo because the japanese attacked pearl harbor, you just wouldn't care.
Japan was repaid with immediate invasion, firebombing campaigns, and the honor of being the first country to have nuclear weapons deployed against them. Israel was repaid with unlimited free money and our unwavering support in all of their future endeavors.
Not to suck israel off too hard but
GLUG GLUG GLUG
 
Yes, and what do you think happens when you pack up your catapults and leave?

I seriously wonder what you think the point of 'staying around' in the sandpits in the original foreverwars was, or what regime change is actually attempting to accomplish.

I can promise you the answer to that is the same reason you would see it happen here to a country of ninety million people.
Our mistake was trying to nation build and introduce democracy to a people who didn't want it.
Our mistake was trying to play politics and sponser militants that became the terrorists of tomorrow.
Our best option is to use our air superiority to level their leadership, cripple their military infrastructure and let whoever is left of the 90 million locals pick up th pieces, be it as a unified Iran or a collection of warlord states.

That would accomplish the goals of preventing Iran from being a player in the ME, without the need for a forever war.
 
What does Iran have that could close the Strait that we can't counter is the real question. Is it something that magically makes the Strait closed that we can't do anything about? More taking us to small claims court? Ever since this started Iran has been abandoned by everyone that was, in theory, on their side, and have been flailing relatively ineffectively ever since, so why are people still assuming that there's some secret hyper-competent Iranian response coming?

Oh, they fired ballistic missiles at Tel Aviv? Great, what exactly has that accomplished for them? Has it stopped the Israelis from shitting on them? Has it moved Iran out of the status of The Raped? This time, the consequences will be different?
The Iranians have a lamp with one wish left and it’s flying carpets are battle ready.
Welp, guess we bombing harder now. How long before boots on the ground becomes necessary? I give it two weeks.

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I unironically think Trump would nuke Iran before he would put boots on the ground.
 
No way. Banning him was great. He should be thread banned from more threads.
Threadbanning Catch the Rainbow was a mistake. Look at the trash that runs in to go apeshit over relatively nothing now.
That guy has to be one of the dumbest Jews I’ve ever seen. His hasbara is hopeless and his pilpul pathetic. Dude just isn’t cut out for volunteer JIDF duty, he should be picking olives on a kibbutz or something instead.
 
Our best option is to use our air superiority to level their leadership, cripple their military infrastructure and let whoever is left of the 90 million locals pick up th pieces, be it as a unified Iran or a collection of warlord states.
"The last 30 times we tried this it didn't work but...it just will this time okay!?"
 
Our mistake was trying to nation build and introduce democracy to a people who didn't want it.
Our mistake was trying to play politics and sponser militants that became the terrorists of tomorrow.
Our best option is to use our air superiority to level their leadership, cripple their military infrastructure and let whoever is left of the 90 million locals pick up th pieces, be it as a unified Iran or a collection of warlord states.

That would accomplish the goals of preventing Iran from being a player in the ME, without the need for a forever war.
You did not respond to the point, nor even attempt to, so I'll posit it to you again. What do you think:
the point of 'staying around' in the sandpits in the original foreverwars was, or what regime change is actually attempting to accomplish
because it's as I said, the same exact reason it'll end the same way this time if Israel doesn't take this as 'enough' for their purposes. Since they apparently have some form of leverage (copies of the Epstein tapes most likely) that allows them to control our government's actions abroad to this extent.
 
Good lord I'm tired of my social media feed getting flooded with "omg guys WW3 oh my god its so over what are me and my family going to dooooo"

It shows you the geopolitical intelligence of the average voter. WW3 with who nigga? Yeah, Russia is totally going to going to declare war on the US over Iran, and we all know the great totally real Chinese-Iranian defensive pact will be activated.

I mean, direct war with Iran would be terrible, don't get me wrong...but ffs it's not WW3.

Do these people have memories of a goldfish? Trump did this with his first term and made an Iranian general meet Allah.

Also wtf could Iran even do realistically? The worst thing they could possibly do is orchestrate a massive terrorist attack on US soil, or more likely do what they did the last time which is sperg fire some more missiles and go "alright we're done"

However, if I'm wrong and war does happen I declare I shall wear a burgersuit until the end of Trump's presidency.
If it involves the US, it's ww3, the burgers have not seen even a taste of war that seriously effects them for too long. That's why they're all fat, lazy and overconfident.
 
I have a feeling there's a lot of Chinese generals with somewhat puckered assholes right now, very concerned about a particular dam
There's no chance in hell that we're ever going to strike the Three Gorges Dam in a non WW3 scenario. If it ever did get destroyed it would lead to the deaths of millions of bugmen and affect the lives of hundreds of millions. That would be tantamount to a nuclear strike on China and would lead to a total mutually assured destruction scenario to both America and China.
 
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