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As far as civilized societies go, Israel is by far the best option in the Middle East. It's not even a question.
Some of the Gulf Kingdoms seem pretty chill, and Saudi Arabia has liberalized a bit. They could still probably chill out with that whole beheading for weed smokers part of their penal code, though. Maybe just downgrade it to lashings, maybe?
 
"They hate us because of our Freedom!"
as boomer as it sounds that is a very common sentiment found around the world Not an argument for dropping troops into Tehran or giving Israel 3 trillion dollars but a rebuttal to the idea that we just need to stop supporting Iran + its proxies are suddenly hunky dory with us.
 
Does anyone know where I could hear the full context of this? Because, by itself it sounds really bad, a curious mixture of ignorance and arrogance.


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"Yeah, we know you're tired of foreign entanglements, but trust us, bros, we're smarter than the average bear, so, no need to worry."

Twatter source.
"Well the real issue is everyone was stupid except us" is a level of idiocy that's surprising to hear from Vance. I get the feeling he was coached into this moronic response.
 
Does anyone know where I could hear the full context of this? Because, by itself it sounds really bad, a curious mixture of ignorance and arrogance.


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"Yeah, we know you're tired of foreign entanglements, but trust us, bros, we're smarter than the average bear, so, no need to worry."

Twatter source.
"This is not gonna be some long drawn out thing"
Might as well just say "hold my beer" lmao
 
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My entire point is that migration isn't going to be cut off because of home grown liberalism, the liberalism that is based on psychological differences between sexes and an increased openness towards female-placating policies. That is understandable, right? If you open a country because women, liberals, and corpos feel bad, then a bunch of retards with insufficient culture will come.
That's one side of the equation, and one I'm in total agreement on. But people don't leave their home countries because they just feel like it. If they have decent jobs, a good life, and a sense of security, most people are content with staying where they are, and the US and Israel have been trying their hardest for the last 30 years to make that an impossibility to any country neighboring Israel.
 
If they just resort to piracy then we'll just end up killing them with strikes like we have in the past, and if they did they will still end up on their shit list for disrupting trade. At this point all I expect is more trucks of peace and terror cells fucking with American citizens. Iran itself seems pretty neutered, and if they do anything I imagine it'll be through 3rd parties as always.
This is desirable outcome for you? Domestic terrorist attacks and disruption of supply chains are part and parcel of supporting Israel I guess, no biggie.
 
I know we are all trained by the media and the punditocracy to have instant opinions on every major event that ever happens, but this one has me thoroughly confused. I can understand the argument for diplomacy, and I can also understand the argument for bombing. And even though it's largely moot at this point, I cannot decide which is the smarter way to go.
 
It's like in the Startgate SG-1 episode called Point of View where Teal'c sees his alternate self and shoots him in the chest. Then he turns to O'Neill and says "Our reality is the only one of consequence."

And they all look at Teal'c like he's crazy.
My wife started howling at this scene. Teal'C was the best.
it’s so wild watching people fall for literally the very same talking points as 2003.
It's so cute that you don't believe it because it's true. The US has been top dog for less than 100 years and went from undeveloped to developed in less than 100 years while most Iranians live in commie blocks and can't do anything without the IRGC's say so. Their lives suck and literally all they have is bitching about destroying Israel and the US. They can't even get Qatar to help them because of the Arab League sanctions. It sucks to be Iranian but the people are smart enough to know it.
 
So explain the Syrian and Libyan Migrant crisis to me
shithole states went up in flames during the arab spring meme, and merkel the queen cuck of europe decided that it would be a good idea to respond to that by inviting the entire planet to the continent as "refugees"
once word spread among the browns that germany pays more in welfare gibs than whatever shit job they can get in their shithole countries, they put two and two together and started moving. and they haven't stopped moving since.

libya in particular isn't at all about people fleeing from the war. like 95% or more of the migrants coming from there aren't libyans, they're sub saharan niggers who simply transit through libya because it's the shortest and easiest route north.
 
oh I don’t doubt it sucks to be Iranian we don’t disagree there kek

Speaking of which kiwis if you had to choose a middle eastern country to live in what would you choose?
 
Starting a new war with Iran is indefensible. Iran will now most likely strike American millitary installations and we'll soon be fully committed in yet another forever war in the Middle East that didn't even need to happen in the first place! My best buddy is going into service soon and all this shit is popping off now, fuck man
You can enlist now. Service guarantees citizenship!
 
All the africans flooding in to Europe are able to do so because of what was done in Libya. Gaddafi was the dam that was holding all that shit back.
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We created a failed state there and made the perfect staging ground for the African invasion in to the EU.
Another regime change success story! :biggrin:
They wouldn’t have made it if European countries didn’t welcome them en masse and fully support them via welfare. They’re also defending them by denying their crimes and arresting anyone who points this out. Face it when a European stands up on a flight and demands a rapist not be deported because racism there’s a serious issue in the European front. Personally I’m pro taking them out back and shooting them.
 
Margaret Brennan has a humiliation fetish, or she's just such a dumb white coastal liberal she can't understand new developments:

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Imagine simping out for a toad like Rubio. Dude pretended to be Tea Party grassroots "outsider" just long enough to trick people. Maxx neocon slim ball. Literal definition of the Deep State if there ever was one.

Does anyone know where I could hear the full context of this? Because, by itself it sounds really bad, a curious mixture of ignorance and arrogance.


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"Yeah, we know you're tired of foreign entanglements, but trust us, bros, we're smarter than the average bear, so, no need to worry."

Twatter source.

Bro. I try to stay pretty objective and neutral, but holy shit that sounded bad.

"Yeah, we know he's Bush 3.0, but he's not dumb! It's not a forever war because...well, it's not yet! Did you hear about the Iranian terror cells yet? TERROR DID YOU HEAR ME TERROR LEVEL ORANGE I REPEAT TERROR LEVEL ORANGE."

Anyone here even old enough to remember the stupid ass terror levels? Was Orange a high one? I forget.
 
The weird thing about Trump bombing Iran is I think it's unpopular with everyone. I have yet to see lefties screech about how bombing Iran is good, actually, while most right wingers are against wars in the middle east.

I'm pretty ambivalent about the whole thing. Surprised that Trump ordered the strikes, unsurprised they were successful, and I'm not against bombing foreign enemies. Doubtful we will see boots on the ground. Why bother? There's no area worth securing, and Trump is against "nation building".

This is basically just Trump bullying a retarded nation for no other reason than to show dominance and maintain order, which is a lot better than funding infinity wars in Ukraine.
 
The logical dissonance between cheering on the continued destabilization of the Middle East on behalf of Israel while also holding the belief that the West shouldn't be used as a dumping ground for globalist technocrats to toss infinite brown rapists into just isn't felt by some. Some people just seem to love the feeling of footing the bill for someone else's dinner.
there is no dissonance.
some faraway shithole having a war creates a refugree problem in that faraway shithole. importing that problem into the west is 100% the fault of western leadership who refuse to enforce their own borders.
 
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