US US Politics General 2 - Discussion of President Trump and other politicians

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Should be a wild four years.

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[mandatorylurk]

From the Wayne MI church shooting, looks like the deacon ran over the faggot before he could get inside, which is why you hear the burst fire a few times. Deacon runs over the guy, security shoots him.



Christians use the Truck of Peace for actual good.

 

[Americunt]

Look I am not a hawk but it’s 100% the tribalism not the bombing otherwise they wouldn’t have been this fucked since ww1

Hmm, odd that they became the west's problem exactly when we involved ourselves in drawing up their borders for them, governing and occupying them, etc. etc.

 

[Justsomecicada]

Hmm, odd that they became the west's problem exactly when we involved ourselves in drawing up their borders for them, governing and occupying them, etc. etc.

I wasn’t talking about immigration I was talking about why they can’t adopt our form of government.

I don’t think it’s a coincidence almost all Arab regime have been minority rule masquerading as secular one party dictatorships, monarchies and theocratic/theodemocratic systems.

I’m not that convinced liberal democracy is that good for US the people who made the system let alone these people

 

[Beautiful Loser]

From the Wayne MI church shooting, looks like the deacon ran over the faggot before he could get inside, which is why you hear the burst fire a few times. Deacon runs over the guy, security shoots him.

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Christians use the Truck of Peace for actual good.

Truck of Freedom, YEE-HAAAW!

 

[JayseeDenton]

I've explained this before as well. The Jews Bad Narrative has permeated normie culture. They have purged their good will with the youth. There is no more good will for the Israelites and dragging us into another conflict, warranted or not, is pissing whatever good will is left away. Bibi overplayed his hands and now that every other religion is into the political game, he's losing influence. This is all good and bodes well for the future. The children of tomorrow are very likely to outright reject Israel in the future.

The only problem is...those same normies are then defacto accepting Islam instead. They're choosing Palestine and Islamists over Israel just because they're diametrically opposed and don't understand Islam. They just think Islam is funny dumb brown man religion where they throw women in bags and occasionally say hurka durka. In reality, Islam is a death worshipping cult that molests children and it's a religion basked into more ignorance than Mormonism. The normies don't understand that Islam and secular society cannot co-exist. Islamic culture has them outbreeding and outpacing every other people's and they are installing Sharia Law wherever they go whether people realize it or not. Most people are not willing to accept the notion of "Yes, all Muslims in your community are bad and their religion cannot be tolerated because they will not allow you to co-exist with them". Not enough people are talking about the child rape gangs in the UK or Epic City. They choose to think Islam is just like every other religion when it isn't. Now we're heading for a far worse conflict than I think most KFers really understand. You people really do not hate Islam enough.

I agree with all of this except the notion that people's tolerance to islam has increased. The wokies are as retarded and vocal as ever but I haven't heard "religion of peace" used as a phrase in almost 5 years, the UK gangs are being explicitly referred to by name, and overall anti immigration sentiment is on the rise.

I do think things are moving in the right direction.

 

[J.R. "Bob" Dobbs]

You will see my tune change if we send regular troops to Iran

Now wait a minute, wasn't your previous claim that you'd change your tune if we had boots on the ground? Now it's sending troops regularly. Am I misremembering?

 

[Americunt]

Truly I am dealing with a rational and intelligent creature. Sign here and put on the burger suit:
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Enjoy this smug self-satisfaction while you can. Reminder that barely even 2 days ago Trump's line on Iran was "2 weeks to make a decision", if you believe them saying "no boots on the ground" is credible, I have a kibbutz in Tehran to sell you.

 

[Moonglade Feral Druid]

From the Wayne MI church shooting, looks like the deacon ran over the faggot before he could get inside, which is why you hear the burst fire a few times. Deacon runs over the guy, security shoots him.

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Christians use the Truck of Peace for actual good.

The initial story had implied the truck was the shooter's. This makes a lot more sense now.

 

[Fatpacks]

It's Israel first, it always was. Which side the Kosher political coin landed on in the last 4 years literally has no impact on this.

I hope all you Americans enjoy dying for Israel, because it's what you are getting, whether you like it or not.
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Can't wait to see the cope once boots end up on the ground.

I like Vance but realistically if Trump keeps doing this retarded Neocon shit he’s going to drag the entire party into the mud with him, you just know Dems are frothing at the mouth at this, pretty much every voter under the age of 60 is pro-isolationism and if Republicans won’t deliver on that then they will never see the White House post-Trump

Took the words right out of my mouth. We will get fucking rolled by the eternal Democrat regime. Celebrity worship, drag queen story time, inviting the third world, and pride parades where people wear fursuits and strapons in front of children will be in full swing. Many of the right will find that they no longer have a reason to live now that the left will become all-powerful soon.

 

[DumbDude43]

You can jump around and call it retarded all you want and scream MUH DICTATOR to justify turning in to hellhole failed state. But the simple fact remains the world was a better place with Libya intact then it is now with it smashed. There wasn't a limitless unchecked migration superhighway through the land. There wasn't open air slave markets. Tossing Gaddafi some pocket change everytime he chimped out and wanted a new gold plated toilet seems like a very,very small price to pay compared to costs that followed taking him out.

Regime change in Libya was NOT a success story. Benghazi stands as a perfect monument to that fact. And if you can't even admit that simple reality then discussing it is just a waste of time.

i agree with you like 90%. i don't think removing gaddhafi was a good move at all.
the point i disagree with is acting like this is some kind of gotcha that explains the migration crisis or absolves euro leaders of the responsibility for their own borders. if gaddhafi had stayed in power, it would still be happening, just through other routes. best case scenario is that it would have been a bit slower.
and of course there is no guarantee that gaddhafi would have remained in power indefinitely. dude was getting old. maybe there would have been a successful transition of power after him, or maybe he would have gone the way of ben ali in tunisia or mubarak in egypt, or maybe he would have just seen erdogan successfully blackmailing the EU with the threat of rapefugees and decided to do the same, nobody can say for sure.
what happens or doesn't happen outside our countries is not within our control, relying on foreign states to protect our interests for us is a bad idea. it is the responsibility of our own leaders to do that, and trying to absolve them of blame by bitching about american wars, french interventions or israeli settlements is stupid and pointless.

 

[mlanguishi]

From the Wayne MI church shooting, looks like the deacon ran over the faggot before he could get inside, which is why you hear the burst fire a few times. Deacon runs over the guy, security shoots him.

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Christians use the Truck of Peace for actual good.

Odds on it being another troon? Glad to see armed security, but they should have armed members inside. But MI does have default 'stupid law' to ban carrying unless specifically allowed (anyone that listens to gun-free zone laws is asking for it).

28.425o Premises on which carrying concealed weapon or portable device that uses electro-muscular disruption technology prohibited; “premises” defined; exceptions to subsections (1) and (2); violation; penalties.
(e) Any property or facility owned or operated by a church, synagogue, mosque, temple, or other place of worship, unless the presiding official or officials of the church, synagogue, mosque, temple, or other place of worship permit the carrying of concealed pistol on that property or facility.

https://legislature.mi.gov/Laws/MCL?objectName=MCL-28-425O#:~:text=(e)%20Any%20property%20or%20facility%20owned%20or,concealed%20pistol%20on%20that%20property%20or%20facility.

Michign also has shitloads of islamics too I guess.

 

[Taser Confetti]

From the Wayne MI church shooting, looks like the deacon ran over the faggot before he could get inside, which is why you hear the burst fire a few times. Deacon runs over the guy, security shoots him.

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Christians use the Truck of Peace for actual good.

Security shots aren't exactly legal - I hope security guard bro is okay but that was ill advised.

 

[pwnest injun]

Iraq was 8 yrs and Afghanistan was 18 retard.

Neither of those were wars, they were intentional occupations which served no purpose besides allowing us to put pressure on Iran. We don't need to occupy Iran to put pressure on Iran. They're already isolated and on their last legs.

edit: The Taliban surrendered before the first US troop set foot in Afghanistan and Iraq's army didn't exist after the 2nd week of US invasion, btw. Everything after that was just occupation.

 

[deleuzeon]

Enjoy this smug self-satisfaction while you can. Reminder that barely even 2 days ago Trump's line on Iran was "2 weeks to make a decision", if you believe them saying "no boots on the ground" is credible, I have a kibbutz in Tehran to sell you.

We'll see. Someone here needs to make a bet with some kind of avatar-related consequences.

 

[Fapcop]

Uhhh what? There were literally Crusades because Muslims not only prevented Christians from going to the Holy Land for a thousand years, but also to get them the fuck out of Europe. What are you smoking, my man?

I’m talking about the millennium of peace between the crusades and now, where Muslims, Christians and a handful of Jews all lived in peace.

Before borders were artificially drawn, and invading Askenazi Jews from Europe blew up the region, leading to five wars and a displaced population that’s is a security and stability problem region wide.

Nice try but we’re talking about modern times, not the crusades or the Romans or Phoenician or whatever.

 

[The Secret Sauce]

but at least their thing is censorship and banking, not marrying 9-year olds

The only reason kikes don't marry children is that marriage is a financial commitment. They simply rape the 9-year olds and move on to the next child.

 

[Hey Johnny Bravo]

Now wait a minute, wasn't your previous claim that you'd change your tune if we had boots on the ground? Now it's sending troops regularly. Am I misremembering?

I have stated that I won't consider it an invasion unless regular troops there, so you are misremembering or I wasn't 100% clear.

If US special forces go there (which I honestly doubt would happen due to the IRGC's presence everywhere in Iran), I won't get in a twist about it because US special forces go everywhere to train pro-US forces. In fact, for most US special forces, their last training exercise is a literal weeks-long LARP called Robin Sage where they have to "train" local militias among other things. We sent special forces to Syria for this reason (which was a dismal failure) and we never got into a war with Syria, despite the doomers insisting otherwise. Simply put, I don't see special forces going somewhere as a necessary prelude to a full US invasion, but it was a component of other invasions like Afghanistan where special ops went in first. It wouldn't be a good sign, but it wouldn't be the sign.

 

[David Brown]

I'm not going to get into slapfights with individual users

Promise?

attitude of "noooo we can't bomb a country that has hated us for decades, sponsored terrorists that have killed Americans, and openly wants to kill us and usher in global Sharia law because Israel is so much worse" rubs the wrong way.

Okay. Sure. But don't you think it's reasonable to be skeptical of being told, once again, that the engagement is going to be limited only to disarming the supposed WMDs and that it won't turn into a longer conflict? We've heard this story before and I think it's perfectly reasonable to think that this COULD BE the set up for a more expansive engagement. Its really disingenuous to say that anyone is defending Islam just because they aren't interested in dedicating US military resources to finishing a fight that Israel started. We've heard this song and seen this dance before. Naturally plenty of people are frustrated with an administration that ran on an anti-war platform would do this.

In my opinion, the people of the USA are not going to tolerate a full invasion of Iran. We don't have a 9/11 to rile people up and the domestic situation in the USA is much more dire than it was in 2001 and 2003. So I tend to think that pragmatically the chance of more commitment from the US military is low. Either way, it has looked really bad for Trump to authorize the bombing and burned a lot of political will in the MAGA movement. He was in a shitty situation and Vance and Rubio don't even look comfortable sweeping up this one. It looks a lot like instances in the past where the US was dragged into a conflict that ballooned outside the original mission scope and people are rightly upset by that.

That's my opinion anyway. And I don't have to have any positive opinion of Islam to think that way.

 

[Rudolf's Friend]

I’m talking about the millennium of peace between the crusades and now, where Muslims, Christians and a handful of Jews all lived in peace.

Before borders were artificially drawn, and invading Askenazi Jews from Europe blew up the region, leading to five wars and a displaced population that’s is a security and stability problem region wide.

Nice try but we’re talking about modern times, not the crusades or the Romans or Phoenician or whatever.

They never lived in peace. The Turks were regularly trying to invade Europe and conquer it, The Russians were constantly fighting with the Turks, The European powers colonized North Africa, at no point did they ever live in peace.

 

[Americunt]

not marrying 9-year olds and burning people alive in cages.

You're right, it's raping 9-year olds and running to Israel to escape prosecution, and then hitting the button on a missle that sets fire to a refugee camp in Gaza