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Now wait a minute, wasn't your previous claim that you'd change your tune if we had boots on the ground? Now it's sending troops regularly. Am I misremembering?
I have stated that I won't consider it an invasion unless regular troops there, so you are misremembering or I wasn't 100% clear.

If US special forces go there (which I honestly doubt would happen due to the IRGC's presence everywhere in Iran), I won't get in a twist about it because US special forces go everywhere to train pro-US forces. In fact, for most US special forces, their last training exercise is a literal weeks-long LARP called Robin Sage where they have to "train" local militias among other things. We sent special forces to Syria for this reason (which was a dismal failure) and we never got into a war with Syria, despite the doomers insisting otherwise. Simply put, I don't see special forces going somewhere as a necessary prelude to a full US invasion, but it was a component of other invasions like Afghanistan where special ops went in first. It wouldn't be a good sign, but it wouldn't be the sign.
 
I'm not going to get into slapfights with individual users
Promise?

attitude of "noooo we can't bomb a country that has hated us for decades, sponsored terrorists that have killed Americans, and openly wants to kill us and usher in global Sharia law because Israel is so much worse" rubs the wrong way.
Okay. Sure. But don't you think it's reasonable to be skeptical of being told, once again, that the engagement is going to be limited only to disarming the supposed WMDs and that it won't turn into a longer conflict? We've heard this story before and I think it's perfectly reasonable to think that this COULD BE the set up for a more expansive engagement. Its really disingenuous to say that anyone is defending Islam just because they aren't interested in dedicating US military resources to finishing a fight that Israel started. We've heard this song and seen this dance before. Naturally plenty of people are frustrated with an administration that ran on an anti-war platform would do this.

In my opinion, the people of the USA are not going to tolerate a full invasion of Iran. We don't have a 9/11 to rile people up and the domestic situation in the USA is much more dire than it was in 2001 and 2003. So I tend to think that pragmatically the chance of more commitment from the US military is low. Either way, it has looked really bad for Trump to authorize the bombing and burned a lot of political will in the MAGA movement. He was in a shitty situation and Vance and Rubio don't even look comfortable sweeping up this one. It looks a lot like instances in the past where the US was dragged into a conflict that ballooned outside the original mission scope and people are rightly upset by that.

That's my opinion anyway. And I don't have to have any positive opinion of Islam to think that way.
 
I’m talking about the millennium of peace between the crusades and now, where Muslims, Christians and a handful of Jews all lived in peace.

Before borders were artificially drawn, and invading Askenazi Jews from Europe blew up the region, leading to five wars and a displaced population that’s is a security and stability problem region wide.

Nice try but we’re talking about modern times, not the crusades or the Romans or Phoenician or whatever.
They never lived in peace. The Turks were regularly trying to invade Europe and conquer it, The Russians were constantly fighting with the Turks, The European powers colonized North Africa, at no point did they ever live in peace.
 
From the Wayne MI church shooting, looks like the deacon ran over the faggot before he could get inside, which is why you hear the burst fire a few times. Deacon runs over the guy, security shoots him.

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Christians use the Truck of Peace for actual good.

I already knew why the shooter was there but looked up the religion demographics for Wayne to make sure
 
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Threadbanning Catch the Rainbow was a mistake. Look at the trash that runs in to go apeshit over relatively nothing now.
Yea, I really liked his autistic level of detail and constant updates. You have other faggots in here posting as often and literally saying nothing.

He was overly defensive and obviously extremely biased but he provided updates in near real time.

He did choose a wild hill to die on and I wouldn't reccomend slap fighting with a site owner. Especially about something so impossible to defend.

Now is your time other person reading this. Feel free to end every post with Persian power ballads or even holocoaster references. If he was mossad send a more subtle jew and give me updates thanks.
 
I’m talking about the millennium of peace between the crusades and now, where Muslims, Christians and a handful of Jews all lived in peace.
The early 1900s called and they want to let you know that you have no idea what you're talking about.
I promise.
Okay. Sure. But don't you think it's reasonable to be skeptical of being told, once again, that the engagement is going to be limited only to disarming the supposed WMDs and that it won't turn into a longer conflict? We've heard this story before and I think it's perfectly reasonable to think that this COULD BE the set up for a more expansive engagement. Its really disingenuous to say that anyone is defending Islam just because they aren't interested in dedicating US military resources to finishing a fight that Israel started. We've heard this song and seen this dance before. Naturally plenty of people are frustrated with an administration that ran on an anti-war platform would do this.
There is a difference between skepticism and sperging about how we're going to war like Johnny Rico after Buenos Aires. I have faith that Trump doesn't want to destroy his legacy like this 5 months into his second term. Like I said: if he does, I'll be getting a lot of shit coming my way, but I think there is enough evidence to suggest he won't.
 
I’m talking about the millennium of peace between the crusades and now, where Muslims, Christians and a handful of Jews all lived in peace.

Before borders were artificially drawn, and invading Askenazi Jews from Europe blew up the region, leading to five wars and a displaced population that’s is a security and stability problem region wide.

Nice try but we’re talking about modern times, not the crusades or the Romans or Phoenician or whatever.
the millennium of peace during which the muslim armies from the middle east invaded and conquered their way through europe all the way up to the gates of fucking vienna?
the millennium of peace during which it took the christian kingdoms of what is now spain and portugal 700 fucking years to finally drive the muslim invaders out of the iberian peninsula?
the millennium of peace that saw hundreds of years of struggle until the balkans managed to break free from the ottoman yoke in the early 20th century?
lol
lmao
 
Well this thread is just going to be a broken record for a few days at least.

I'm not happy with the bombings but I'm not going to have a retarded knee-jerk overreaction to them either.
Threadbanning Catch the Rainbow was a mistake. Look at the trash that runs in to go apeshit over relatively nothing now.
His posts were certainly higher quality than what we're getting now.
 
Why do people fake catastrophizing?

Nothing ever happens.

We were going to nnooooooook every other month before the special retard operation got old, then Zelensky did the drone truck surprise, then everyone went no noook bitches? And now we’re listening to more faggots go on about Iran.

Nothing.

Fucking.

Happens.

Who the fuck has a reason to like Russia or Iran anyway? It sucks everywhere. I don’t get the simping.

Shut the fuck up and shit post.

Everyone who bitch posted about Putin never came forward to admit the lack of happening and they won’t ever do it here.

Sneed.
 
His posts were certainly higher quality than what we're getting now.
He got involved in slapfights and wouldn't just move on, dozens of pages of idiotic bullshit. It's why I IGNORED him, and no doubt also why he got threadbanned. To this day he still comes in here to negrate me. Never drops a grudge. It's a problem in the Jewish genes.
 
the millennium of peace during which it took the christian kingdoms of what is now spain and portugal 700 fucking years to finally drive the muslim invaders out of the iberian peninsula?
Yah Al-Andalus was a tough nut to crack, glad the Spainairds finally took back control from the Moors. I'm forgetting though, who opened the gates of toledo for them to come in the first place?
 
He got involved in slapfights and wouldn't just move on, dozens of pages of idiotic bullshit. It's why I IGNORED him, and no doubt also why he got threadbanned. To this day he still comes in here to negrate me. Never drops a grudge. It's a problem in the Jewish genes.
Won’t somone think of the high quality posts of an Israeli dual citizen IDF POG shilling for up to 20 hours straight.

why was he thread banned btw
 
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