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[NvII iS 8ulLt f0R 88C]

I converted a Turkish girl

Mashallah, keep up the good work. I will be , God willing, baptized next Easter.

 

[EyeGuy]

Mogged by Ben Shapiro
Catholicbros...

 

[Mound Dweller]

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Mogged by Ben Shapiro
Catholicbros...

tbf to *INHALES* Episcopus Romanus Vicarius Iesu Christi Successor principis apostolorum Summus Pontifex Ecclesiae Universalis Patriarcha Occidentis Primatus Italiae rchiepiscopus metropolitanus provinciae Romanae Superanus sui iuris civitatis Vaticanae Servus Servorum Dei, Shapiro is some nephilim gigaraeli or something isn't he? Look at those elbows, pvrest Horite bloodline.

 

[Paradox Mystic]

Beanie boi had an Orthodox, a Catholic and a Protestant on to debate Catholic supremacy and the poor prot guy was not ready to hang. I would feel bad for him but he is extremely anti-Catholic during his livestreams so…nah.

The "Prot" guy was a freemason who kept saying "That doesn't count!" whenever Jay tried to reference some masonic lore to question him about it. It would have been more entertaining if he was educated and willing to defend esoteric lore.

Spoiler

 

[Tom Bombodildo]

Shapiro is some nephilim gigaraeli or something isn't he? Look at those elbows, pvrest Horite bloodline.

No, pretty sure he's clocked in somewhere between 5'2" and 5'4". Shapiro is a manlet for sure. I'm thinking they must be standing on different levels or the perspective is funny or something because I haven't heard anyone say the Holy Father is a 5' nothing short king.

 

[That Summer Feeling]

I've got one of those "has been asked a million times" questions.

Christians of various denominations preach that heretics and schismatics will go to hell.

1. If you take this to it's logical conclusion, then, for example, from the standpoint of an Orthodox Christian, a murderer-rapist and C.S. Lewis will both end up in hell. But this seems so horribly unjust. How could their sins have the same "weight"?
2. So you might come to the conclusion that's it's permissible to believe that God may permit a person to enter Heaven even if he is a heretic. Obviously you can't decide that on God's behalf, but the belief itself is permissible.
3. But if you find this belief permissible, then doesn't the preaching becomes "Heretics will absolutely go to hell, God will tell them "I never knew you, depart from me." But actually, not really, it depends." Confusing!

 

[Rango Dango]

I've got one of those basic "has been asked a million times" questions.

Christians of various denominations preach that heretics and schismatics will go to hell.

1. If you take this to it's logical conclusion, then, for example, from the standpoint of an Orthodox Christian, a murderer-rapist and C.S. Lewis will both end up in hell. But this seems so horribly unjust. How could their sins have the same "weight"?
2. So you might come to the conclusion that's it's permissible to believe that God may permit a person to enter Heaven even if he is a heretic. Obviously you can't decide that on God's behalf, but the belief itself is permissible.
3. But if you find this belief permissible, then doesn't the preaching becomes "Heretics will absolutely go to hell, God will tell them "I never knew you, depart from me." But actually, not really, it depends." Confusing!

Well, there's not really a definite answer from what I know, but I really liked Fr. Casey's answer to this question. He said he hopes that God will consider people, who were searching for the truth, but were lead astray.

 

[self-diagnosed dumbass]

I've got one of those "has been asked a million times" questions.

Christians of various denominations preach that heretics and schismatics will go to hell.

1. If you take this to it's logical conclusion, then, for example, from the standpoint of an Orthodox Christian, a murderer-rapist and C.S. Lewis will both end up in hell. But this seems so horribly unjust. How could their sins have the same "weight"?
2. So you might come to the conclusion that's it's permissible to believe that God may permit a person to enter Heaven even if he is a heretic. Obviously you can't decide that on God's behalf, but the belief itself is permissible.
3. But if you find this belief permissible, then doesn't the preaching becomes "Heretics will absolutely go to hell, God will tell them "I never knew you, depart from me." But actually, not really, it depends." Confusing!

I think God is going to care far less about theological minutae when judging souls and far more about how one treated their fellow man, personally. It all comes down to love.

 

[Jerk Sausage]

Mashallah, keep up the good work. I will be , God willing, baptized next Easter.
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I was baptized as an infant, but confirmed this year. If you haven't already, I highly recommend you email the church that appeals to you the most in your area, and ask about joining their OCIA/RCIA program. Usually starts late summer.

 

[sedoL]

Question: A person who lived in lies and sin, but did believe in Christ is already saved simply by the grace of believing in him. He/she might not be a good person but God planted the seed and it's for him to decide. Another thing here is, how does someone find out if another person is pretending to believe in Christ? Probably not possible unless they easily forsake Christ for another god and then pretend to belive in him again, but... Maybe someone knows good takes on this?

 

[Tom Bombodildo]

Question: A person who lived in lies and sin, but did believe in Christ is already saved simply by the grace of believing in him. He/she might not be a good person but God planted the seed and it's for him to decide. Another thing here is, how does someone find out if another person is pretending to believe in Christ? Probably not possible unless they easily forsake Christ for another god and then pretend to belive in him again, but... Maybe someone knows good takes on this?

If I understand your question correctly, the Church has traditionally taught that dying with the guilt of mortal sin on your soul leads to a judgment of damnation from God, even if one is a truly-believing Christian;“Not everyone who says to Me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter the kingdom of heaven, but the one who does the will of My Father who is in heaven will enter." Matthew 7:21 is just a singular proof text in this area. Now, we do not know for sure that any person is in Hell, even if they died in mortal sin, because it is theoretically possible to cry out to God in perfect contrition in their final moments and thus be forgiven their sins, even without a priest + sacramental confession.
These days it's a bit more fluid, as any moderately intelligent person could poke holes in an overly legalistic approach regarding mortal sin and different theologians have advanced different ideas about particular judgment and damnation (with Hans Urs von Balthasar famously positing that at the end of time there may be no one who is damned, not even Satan).
The important things to remember are to go to Confession often (usually monthly) and love your fellow Christian as best as you are able.

 

[RomanianSchizo]

If I understand your question correctly, the Church has traditionally taught that dying with the guilt of mortal sin on your soul leads to a judgment of damnation from God, even if one is a truly-believing Christian;“Not everyone who says to Me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter the kingdom of heaven, but the one who does the will of My Father who is in heaven will enter." Matthew 7:21 is just a singular proof text in this area. Now, we do not know for sure that any person is in Hell, even if they died in mortal sin, because it is theoretically possible to cry out to God in perfect contrition in their final moments and thus be forgiven their sins, even without a priest + sacramental confession.
These days it's a bit more fluid, as any moderately intelligent person could poke holes in an overly legalistic approach regarding mortal sin and different theologians have advanced different ideas about particular judgment and damnation (with Hans Urs von Balthasar famously positing that at the end of time there may be no one who is damned, not even Satan).
The important things to remember are to go to Confession often (usually monthly) and love your fellow Christian as best as you are able.

Thanks for reminding me I need to go to Confession
I'm so nervous, I always worry about going to Confession, especially because I've had negative experiences beforehand. It doesn't help that instead of my usual priest, I'm either going to a priest I haven't gone to in a while or going to a priest that I haven't been to before. I would go behind the screen, but I like to go face-to-face. Idk I'm kinda just yapping atp but if fellow Kiwis could pray for me that my next Confession goes well, I'd really appreciate it.

 

[Preacher ✝]

So the 2025 Jubilee has unveiled its official merch store and I am absolutely beside myself with the misplays on display.

I wish I could get in contact with whoever is in charge and ask what the heck they're thinking.

First and biggest blunder is in the Luce collection.

Ask yourself, ever since the debut of Luce what's the one piece of Luce merch that has made the most sense? A figurine. When they debuted Luce she was in the form of a nice, high quality, vinyl figurine.



One would think any one with a lick of sense would be offering Luce figurines like that one for sale, ideally with a smaller, cheaper, option too. If they sold figurines I'd have bought one already.

But no, look what we got.



A plush, a plush keychain, some weird pop sockets, some pins, a charm bracelet, some more pins, and a bookmark.

On top of that, they had this whole thing of Luce and her friends, but there is no merch at all for any of the friends.

Ah but the incompetence doesn't end there, go look at the merch store and think about what the kids these are aimed at would want.

I remember being a kid, and if I were still a kid looking at this I'd want the whole pilgrim outfit to dress up in. Kids love that shit. The poncho, the boots, and especially the stick.

They did none of it. While the stick might be the most desirable, I can also understand its absence for a number of reasons, least of all being the difficulty in shipping them. Boots are another somewhat understandble absence. Footwear is harder to make and the sizing is an issue that can incur more frequent returns, plus there really isn't anything iconic about green rain boots, and I woudlnt want them to be offered with fake mud splashes anyway.

However the lack of a proper Luce style poncho is absolutely inexcusable. They do offer a poncho, but its a cheap shitty thing that looks like a shopping bag, and it isnt even yellow!


What the actual fuck are they thinking?!?! Why not offer a nice, full quality yellow poncho with the big pockets like Luce is wearing? Who is the retard in charge of this fiasco?

REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

 

[Oligarca Caballero]

Mashallah, keep up the good work. I will be , God willing, baptized next Easter.
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Definetely making this into a t-shirt.

 

[Circus peanut]

Are y’all familiar with TinySaints? https://www.tinysaints.com/

They have a keychain now for St. Carlos Acutis

 

[Preacher ✝]

Are y’all familiar with TinySaints? https://www.tinysaints.com/

They have a keychain now for St. Carlos Acutis

Their designs are a bit too FunkoPop for my tastes. I know people with collections who adore them, and that's fine, but they're just not for me.

 

[Poonocchio]

Are y’all familiar with TinySaints? https://www.tinysaints.com/

They have a keychain now for St. Carlos Acutis
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Thanks for the link. I bought my baby a Jesus plush from Parablesgifts.com ❤

 

[Circus peanut]

Their designs are a bit too FunkoPop for my tastes. I know people with collections who adore them, and that's fine, but they're just not for me.

I know that if i let myself buy one, I’d buy more and more, so I’ve held off on purchasing them lol.

Thanks for the link. I bought my baby a Jesus plush from Parablesgifts.com ❤

Cute!! Congratulations on babby <3

 

[Tom Bombodildo]

So the 2025 Jubilee has unveiled its official merch store and I am absolutely beside myself with the misplays on display.

I wish I could get in contact with whoever is in charge and ask what the heck they're thinking.

I agree big dog, but expecting business acumen out of the Vatican is like waiting for a fish to tap dance; not gonna happen.

 

[Circus peanut]

Lmao why the fuck did they make it so anime

I guess it’s cute but it’s not as cute as the bear which is sold out((


Edit—I read about Luce and think it’s sweet they created a mascot with that kind of symbolism (raincoat for wading through life’s storms, the scallop shell eyes, the muddy boots for traveling tough paths, etc.) Unfortunately, anime