2025 Israel vs Iran War

[Gurney Halleck]

dude my son is staring at me like im a retard from his playpen

Wait a minute.
>Israeli dual citizen
>has young children
>gets into spergy slapfights on the internet about Israel
Ethan Klein? Is that your alt?

 

[Ghostse]

Do you just make up random shit for (you)s? Legitimately asking.

Yes. He does.
Well, not him. The "totally independent non ZOG compromised" telegram channels he slurps up zero gag reflex and reguritates do.

See: these hot takes that have aged extremely well.

https://kiwifarms.st/posts/21790393/

I half expected for you to mention their MBT being the T-62 again.

This isn't a ground war and very unlikely to become one, except for a potential Iranian Civil War (which I don't see happening, as cucked and gay as the opposition is). So the fact that Russia has been forced into deploying a tank from the 60s as their most 2nd most numerous tank, while absolutely hilarious, isn't material to the current goings on.
But keep seething.

 

['Ole Dente]

WRT the Hormuz Strait, Iran closing it off 2 weeks ago would be a different story, as 2 weeks ago, Iran was viewed as a dangerous, powerful enemy with tons of ballistic missiles that could cause serious damage to whoever would challenge them militarily. Today, the story is completely different. Iran has never been weaker in both public perception, and actual military might. They wouldn't be able to close off the strait without their entire navy being destroyed in a day. Would you want to be one of the IRGC guys told to fire on a USN Carrier group? You would be receiving your own death sentence.

You're correct but my understanding of this is that we would have to occupy that area going forward to assure some compliance since it's such a large degree of oil going to global markets and we don't want any unnecessary deficits.

My main concern is China interpreting that as a threat to it's economy if Trump decides he wants to leverage that. I don't think it's out of the realm of possibility. I think this is going to have a larger domino effect than we think and it's not going to be fantastic.

 

[Catch The Rainbow]

Wait a minute.
>Israeli dual citizen
>has young children
>gets into spergy slapfights on the internet about Israel
Ethan Klein? Is that your alt?

I would kill myself if I was him

 

[Myrtle the Turtle]

I believe there was intent to provide Iran with Su-35s as well.

Iran wanted an entire Su-35 production line which would have taken at least 5 years to build under optimal conditions. Instead they bought some fighters but its been delayed since the Slavic war. Iran has this weird fascination with Russian tech and are hugely skeptical of new Chink tech, even though its been proven to been worth its salt lately. They love US tech but obviously can't get their hands on it.

Some of the Iranian drones are modeled after the US ones that have been captured like the RQ-170 Sentinel and MQ-9 Reaper with their Temu knockoffs.

 

[draggs]

You're correct but my understanding of this is that we would have to occupy that area going forward to assure some compliance since it's such a large degree of oil going to global markets and we don't want any unnecessary deficits.

My main concern is China interpreting that as a threat to it's economy if Trump decides he wants to leverage that. I don't think it's out of the realm of possibility. I think this is going to have a larger domino effect than we think and it's not going to be fantastic.

What would they do? Fight their way past Taiwan and the Philippines/Vietnam through the Strait of Malacca through the Bay of Bengal around India/Sri Lanka through the Arabian Sea to liberate the Strait of Hormuz from the American capitalist imperialist pigdogs? How many of their ships do you think would make it there? Over/under 1? Take the under

 

[gay porn is the best porn]

This isn't a ground war and very unlikely to become one, except for a potential Iranian Civil War (which I don't see happening, as cucked and gay as the opposition is). So the fact that Russia has been forced into deploying a tank from the 60s as their most 2nd most numerous tank, while absolutely hilarious, isn't material to the current goings on.
But keep seething.

What is there to seethe about though? We both agree that Russia can't allocate much of anything to Iran and we're not arguing over Ukraine right now

 

[Fcret]

You're correct but my understanding of this is that we would have to occupy that area going forward to assure some compliance since it's such a large degree of oil going to global markets and we don't want any unnecessary deficits.

My main concern is China interpreting that as a threat to it's economy if Trump decides he wants to leverage that. I don't think it's out of the realm of possibility. I think this is going to have a larger domino effect than we think and it's not going to be fantastic.

China's free to secure the Strait of Hormuz if they want. The US would probably even collaborate with them on such an effort.

Oh wait, China doesn't have a long-range navy that can project power into the Strait of Hormuz. It has a handful of hastily-built aircraft carriers designed to train their officers for their very real navy they'll make in the 2030s (for real you guys) and then thousands of shitty little dinghies used to harass Filipino fishermen.

 

[Sammich]

Pakistan has no real interest in Iran, and doesn't really have munitions or gear to spare.

https://m.economictimes.com/news/de...chistan-geopolitics/articleshow/121971288.cms

You are the retard wondering Iran's rival Pakistan isn't coming to help to them.

Sorry you can't read, you dumb faggot


Not shockign how fuckign stupid you are when you endless shit yourself about how russia is just about to collapse, they are running out of bombs and bullets and stealing washing machines.

 

[Ghostse]

They could technically spare some Su-30 & Su-35 fighters.
Their actual non-CAS, non-attack fighter numbers still have deep benches and have suffered disproportionately less casualties in the last three years of the 3 Day SMO.

I believe there was intent to provide Iran with Su-35s as well.

Not with their strategic bombers huddled in Sibria. They couldn't afford the hours to fly their jets there.

Spoiler: Oh those Russians

There IS an order in for Su-35 Iran Export models (basically shipping them sans-RADAR; or gettign a Iranian package sent to the factories for install. I forget the details. But an Iranian RADAR made of chinese components that got through sanctions) and fairly high quantity of them. But there has been no delivery date agreed to.

Which is good because since 2022 Russia has managed to build 8 Su-35s, that's not even 3 per year. This is a slower rate of production than the French Rafale which manages 10 a year. They also owe jets and tanks to India, and those orders are delayed indefinitely.

tl;dr: You are right there's an order in for Su-35s, and Russia could spare the airframes but not the wear and tear or potential loss. But Iran doesn't seem interested in ATA with the IDF anyway so I don't think they're pushing the issue.

 

[merpalerpaherp]

Forget jewish lawyers, I need jewish war planners.


Honestly, I wonder how much of this would have gone down in this way if those retards in Gaza could have kept it in their pants


Euros would have wagged fingers at us for hurting brown feelings

Yeah, the more you really think about it this entire situation traces back to both Hamas and the Houthi's, and Hezbollah to a lesser extent. It's like they all started listening to Iran less after the death of Soleimani in 2020; their attacks on Israel were larger than the sort of prodding rocket attacks the world grew accustomed to in that region until it all came crashing down.

 

[Wendy Wheelchair]

Keep moving those goal posts, retard. Hurry up. You aren't changing your position fast enough.

You don't understand! Tulsi Gabbard, Tucker Carlson, Candace Owens, and a bunch of other people who weirdly currently are or were Democrats very recently and seemingly accept money from Qatar told me that if the US even LOOKED at Iran the wrong way, the entire globe would be plunged into eternal nuclear war and that would be all the US's fault for provoking it!!! It's not like this whole "No war with Iran" propaganda is very clearly predicated on a position that favors Islamic republics or anything like that. We've gotta think about all the heckin' US troops that these people regularly denigrate by calling them "ZOGbots" and "mutts"! Even though we wish the entire US military would collapse, we totally don't want them to die in theory I guess. So in short, since I've been told this shit since 2016, if nothing happens, I'll have to actually learn about how foreign policy works instead of swallowing every populist hot take my gaped anus can take (sorry for the mixed metaphor)

Also, now that I have you attention, let me tell you how a multipolar geopolitical order is actually MORE stable...

EDIT: In case the "BUT QATAR AND IRAN ARE OPPOSED TO EACH OTHER!!!!! QATAR IS SUNNI AND IRAN IS SHIA!!!!!!!!" retards feel like chiming in:

 

[A Cardboard Box]

Pentagon officials have said the 30,000-pound (13,600- kilogram) bomb could be used if the United States decides to attack Iran’s nuclear program, with its deeply buried and hardened Fordo uranium enrichment facility that holds a stockpile of enriched uranium.

"we built this bomb, it is designed to target hardened underground structures, for instance, Iranian nuclear facilities" is a far cry from "we built this bomb specifically to destroy Iranian nuclear facilities."

Climb rate is better than F-35 iirc

Yes a carrier based, huge as fuck variable geometry supersonic interceptor does in fact face a faster climb rate than a multirole fighter. Holy shit.

They started to make their own spare parts.

None of the ones that matter. They don't have the tools to build new airframes or engines, the only tools that did exist were destroyed, and after Iran's half dozen foiled attempts at buying spare parts, the US finally got sick of it and paid everyone with F-14s to destroy them. The F-14 is extremely maintenance intensive, same as all variable geometry aircraft, so maintenance intensive that the US themselves decided to retire them, same with the F-111 fleet.

F-14 are incredible aircraft in terms of performance.

They were fine interceptors when they were in service. In 2025, without significant upgrade packages, they are relics.

Sorry you can't read, you dumb faggot

Even Saudi Arabia condemned the Israeli strikes on Iran. It is meaningless lip service.

 

[autistic dog]

Every time Iran says the bombing didnt work Trump should agree and bomb them again.

 

[The best and greatest]

So Israel bros, whats the long term thinking here? Trump did the thing so now Israel is saved by his bravery and courage or w/e right? So the bombing can stop now? If Regime change isn't the intended goal then what good does it do you to continue exchanging munitions with Iran other than to destabilize the situation there further at the cost to your own stuff?

Whats the plan here, goys?

 

[mindlessobserver]

Its starting to look like Netenyahu is about to solidify his legacy as one of the greatest PMs in Israel's short history. People were writing his political obituary 2 years ago over corruption and after October 7th were measuring his neck for the noose for letting it happen.

2 years later and he is on the cusp of buck breaking the middle east. Shaterring Hamas and Hezbollah, helping to bring down the Assads and slicing off the entirety of the Golan Heights and Mount Hermon while doing so, and now humiliating a country that for decades had great power ambitions in the region.

I don't know if he actually thought he could do it or if it was pure personal desperation. But sometimes desperate gambles pay off. Either Netanyahu is insanely lucky or he's the imperfect instrument of a higher power. Because I refuse to believe he woke up on October 6, 2023 and decided that was the day to start putting into motion this regional war that Israel would win.

 

[oh no its pipkun]

Where the fuck have you guys been for the past 50 years?
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the original decay of our navy. the idiots misread the map and their coordinates.

 

[Ghostse]

Pakistan has no real interest in Iran, and doesn't really have munitions or gear to spare. It's all needed to point at India

They have some border disputes, but they also have some mutual interests that align. Relations follow a freeze-thaw cycle, and things are currently a little frosty because tribesmen from the Iranian side killed some Pakistanis, and Iran is angry that miltia from Pakistan have been launching raids into Iran, all this following Iran launching strikes into Pakistan to target "militants".

But both sides also cooperate to keep a couple cross-border minority groups in line - specifically the ones that triggered the strikes last year.

https://m.economictimes.com/news/de...chistan-geopolitics/articleshow/121971288.cms


Sorry you can't read, you dumb faggot
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Not shockign how fuckign stupid you are when you endless shit yourself about how russia is just about to collapse, they are running out of bombs and bullets and stealing washing machines.

Don't ask AI my dude. Or the Jeets. You will miss relevant shit like this:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2024_Iran%E2%80%93Pakistan_conflict

or this

https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/eight-pakistanis-killed-southeastern-iran-2025-04-14/

this is just in the last 12 months. There's so much more of intermittent slap fighting between the two since the revolution.

You are a retard trying to will your multipolar cope fiction into reality. Iran and Pakistan aren't going to land war any time soon, but the idea Pakistan would go to bat for Iran is ludicrious and only possible by someone high on Soviet copium.

During Iran-Iraq, Pakistan prioritized its relations with the US.

Looking forward to Russia offering Iran as much as support as they offered Syria:
A Dacha for the exiled leader.

 

[mindlessobserver]

The B2 really is an amazing piece of work and it even sounds unique. Its a shame so much of America's creative and economic energy has been directed to war instead of other things. But in stuff like the B2, you can still see the "spirit" of a people who built a 3,000 mile railroad across an entire continent in the middle of the 19th century.

 

[David Floyd George]

They refer to Israel as Israel. Usually it's simply the Zionist entity. Many of these countries have never recognized the statehood or existence of Israel until now.

It's also interesting that they call on the international community and the Security Council to right this great wrong. Meaning that (a) they may as well call on unicorns, they know damn well nobody is going to do anything and (b) the KSA in particular isn't going to do anything. Talk - and strong condemnations - are indeed cheap.