Culture Warhammer 40,000 has slightly more women in it now and the neckbeards aren't happy - We're still not at "female space marines" but give it time.

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Since Warhammer 40,000's 10th edition was released last year, each of the wargame's factions has been getting the traditional rules refresh in the form of a new Codex book. The latest deals with the Adeptus Custodes, genetically engineered bodyguards of the Emperor so gigantic they make space marines look weedy. (They also happen to be Henry Cavill's army of choice). There are 10,000 of them and in the past they've only ever been depicted as men. In this latest iteration, shock horror, at least two of the Custodes are women.

Most players seem to have responded to this by shrugging and getting back to arguing about the new rules, but there's always a vocal minority who go on a tear. The Mail Online ran a typically subtle and understated headline that declared "It's Wokehammer!" and the meme community Grimdank has declared posts about "Femstodes" will only be allowed for one week before they join "Female Space Marine posts" as a banned topic. Games Workshop's official response is a tweet that says, "In regards to female Custodians, there have always been female Custodians, since the first of the Ten Thousand were created."

Is this a retcon? Yep, and it won't be the last. Warhammer 40,000 has had fluid "lore" right from the start. The original Custodian Guards were depicted as shirtless hunks who never leave Earth—a long way from the heavily armored galaxy-spanning golden gods they became—to say nothing of tweaks to the 40K canon like ditching half-eldar space marines and rewriting the Horus Heresy from a short story a handful of pages long into a series of 60+ novels.

The Adeptus Custodes aren't 40K's only genetically engineered supersoldiers, of course. The setting's flagship faction are the space marines, who are created differently—where Custodes are enhanced via a unique process begun when they're infants, space marines begin being grafted with a "gene-seed" when they're on the verge of puberty. And while the explanation that space marine gene-seeds are "keyed to male hormones and tissue types" goes back a way, it's not the real reason Games Workshop made a whole army of dudes who are men.

As GW's former head of IP Alan Merrett once explained on Facebook, "The reason there aren't female Space Marines has nothing to do with lore, or background or character of Marines. It's to do with [the] simple logistics of making miniatures and selling miniatures." In the 1980s GW sold miniatures in sets called blister packs, and as Merrett explained "the intention was that upwards of 25% of all models would be female." That didn't last because "retailers kept complaining to us that customers weren't buying the female models and could we not include any in their restocks." By the time Warhammer 40,000 was designed, GW made sure its poster boys were, well, boys to ensure they'd sell. As Merrett put it, "All the background fluff about why there are only male Marines is there to justify a commercial logistics issue."

And the same was true of the Adeptus Custodes, until it wasn't. Though the customers at the average Warhammer shop are mostly men, these days there are usually one or two women as well. And the men are a lot less likely to throw a hissy-fit about having women in their armies than gamers in the 1980s, despite what Reddit and Twitter might suggest. All of 40K's lore and storytelling exists to provide context for selling toy soldiers to people, and as the customer base changes so too will that lore.

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Just engaging in a quiet hypothetical. 40K has all the elements that would make this genre work.

Tension between duty and passion-Emperor worship/Chaos
The contradiction between social expectations and repressed desire
an exotic "other" often alluring and dangerous
it would be very easy to incorporate gothic romance/supernatural style romance into 40K-either with Eldar, Chaos or hell even Space Marines if you changed the lore. (You could probably also stretch it to include Necrons and perhaps the Mechanicus though that is more suppositional on my part).

All of these gothic elements, romanticism, the tension between civilization and primal desire-you see in vampire fiction, phantom of the opera, etc... are very much there in 40K.

If GW wished it-they could market it to women.

Not that they should or will, simply an observation on my end.
I'm not sure you require rewriting the lore on Space Marines. In one of the novels the planetary governor has a nude statue of an Astartes in her bedroom and is delighted when actual Astartes show up on her planet. One sees the statue and she asks his opinion on his accuracy. His only response is to say it is more or less accurate but "perhaps a little exaggerated in some aspects". So the implication would be yes, they still have their meat and two veg.

Reminds me of the old joke:
Sister of Battle (looking upwards): "How tall are you?"
Astartes: "7'9", sister."
Sister of Battle (biting lip): "And are you built to proportion?"
Astartes: "I am not. If I were built to proportion I'd be 8'5""

You seem very enthusiastic about the idea of WH40K erotica. If anybody wants to pay me to write a sexy WH40K novella, I'm happy to oblige. I charge extra for Deamonculaba, though.
 
Uh, I think I'll click on the second of those?

Anyway, I don't know about the setting being designed for porn" but racy novels exist in-universe. In one of the Iron Hands novels, someone comes across a book amongst some commoner's wrecked home entitled "My Love For You Is Exceeded Only By My Love For The Emperor".

If that's not a title to get the blood pumping, I don't know what is.
 
You all say this, but what if GW just want to market 40K to female thirsting over Dark Eldar and Konrad Kurze? If you want to make 40K female friendly-magnify the gothic romance aspects of it.

Brooding villains that were abused as children and yet have castles of skinned children. Women absolutely love this.

Games Workshop could even add romance to their black library novel line up-lesbian Sororitas, rape fantasies(I mean rough sex with hot brooding dark guys)-with everything from night lords to dark Eldar.

You’d have to change the lore to make space marines capable of romance and sexual attraction-but…female interest would skyrocket. Also add the gay Yuri shit women love for some reason. Make war and suffering a backdrop to doomed romances and unfulfilled lust.

Women love broody men, that would flay them from the inside out-that shit is catnip to women. That’s why I shit you not-Dark Eldar and Night Lord artwork/fan discourse is filled with women.
Yes, GW could get Chuck Tingle to write that Conrad/Vect erotics.

Give your filthy genseed in me you monkey!
Taste my Chaotic Cum you alien filth!

We all know women love that shit. Twilight and Supernatural showed it too well.
 
To give non-40k types an idea of what Eldar are like: dig out your LotR lore and read up on Feanor.

95 percent of the Eldar are basically Feanor. The other five percent are the king of the Mirkwood elves.
I normally hate comparisons to Tolkien elves, but you know your Tolkien.

"What do your eldar eyes, see?"

"Teeming barbaric mon-keigh playing with things they don't understand, like an infant that has found a gun. Guided by passions so weak and trivial that they are remarkable only in that they lack the will to govern even these. A half-formed ape, the more horrible for the fact that it possesses an awareness of its brute nature yet not enough awareness to escape it. As grotesque as it is pitiable."

"I, uh, meant the enemy."

"Oh, the Necrons are still a good ten kilometres off."
 
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I normally hate comparisons to Tolkien elves, but you know your Tolkien.

"What do your eldar eyes, see?"

"Teeming barbaric mon-keigh playing with things they don't understand, like an infant that has found a gun. Guided by passions so weak and trivial that they are remarkable only in that they lack the will to govern even these. A half-formed ape, the more horrible for the fact that it possesses an awareness of its brute nature yet not enough awareness to escape it. As grotesque as it is pitiable."

"I, uh, meant the enemy."

"Oh, the Necrons are still a good ten kilometres off."
I still stand by my comment that all the factions in 40k are assholes, it's just a question of type and variation. There are no good guys, not really.
 
Yes, GW could get Chuck Tingle to write that Conrad/Vect erotics.

Give your filthy genseed in me you monkey!
Taste my Chaotic Cum you alien filth!

We all know women love that shit. Twilight and Supernatural showed it too well.
“Spoiled princess of hive world is abducted by Eldar corsairs”

“Sororitas has secret affair with daemonette summoned”

“Inquisitorial investigator catches feelings for night lord warband captain”’

You’re talking about a vast market of female oriented smut. GW could roll in money forever if they did this.
 
Ackshually the Necron Triarchs were justified-as the Old Ones didn’t share immortality with them, they had a legitimate cassus belli, a legitimate cause for aligning wit the C’tan and legally they have the strongest claim to rule the galaxy.

The Eldar and humans both are legally squatters.

(Imagine I’m a Necron cryptek with a law degree).
 
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I'm assuming 1v1s are harder to attentionseek in compared to multiplayer games.
The painting/modelling seems like it'll be more female friendly, but too often that's a solo activity.
I mean, top-down camera angle onto your tank top tits, while doing more or less nothing as you keep fidgeting your fake nails around replying to chat messages while awkwardly holding onto a mini? AND it's a creative medium, meaning you get to flaunt how superior you are to other women who might impose on your (terf)? It really all screams booba streamer, much like how they'll stream runescape because you more or less just idle grind in that game, leaving plenty of room to.. just sit there and receive money.

Again, it's weird how I've seen -zero- women in it. Most things got pick-me's, but the only woman ive seen talking about 40k on youtube was one who read a script written by a man as per on-screen info.
 
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Ackshually the Necron Triarchs were justified-as the Old Ones didn’t share immortality with them, they had a legitimate cassus belli, a legitimate cause for aligning wit the C’tan and legally they have the strongest claim to rule the galaxy.
If a bunch of spotty aggressive humanoids come up to me, humanoids that have been busy conquering other species and say "You owe us immortality" my first instinct is going to be to say "Look, every species thinks its lifespan is too short. I'm not going to go around making every species that develops language immortality. What makes you think you should be?"

If they then attack me because they can't persuade me, I'm going to double down on thinking it's a bad idea.

And if they then sell their souls to vast intelligences that devour stars because they're that pissed at me, then I'm pretty darn certain they're the last people who should have it.

And you know what? The Old Ones were proven right. They got immortality and did they fuck off to contemplate existence? No - they wiped out every civilisation they came across.

Just because you're turned on by Terminators with Egyptian aesthetic, doesn't make them good guys. Also, what the Hell do you mean "legally". Under what legal system? They're own? Oh, I see how that works.
 
"Teeming barbaric mon-keigh playing with things they don't understand, like an infant that has found a gun. Guided by passions so weak and trivial that they are remarkable only in that they lack the will to govern even these. A half-formed ape, the more horrible for the fact that it possesses an awareness of its brute nature yet not enough awareness to escape it. As grotesque as it is pitiable."
I would like to remind the thread that Eldars tore reality a new asshole and spawned the living embodiment of hedonism, degeneracy and excess by fucking each other like a bunch of faggots pozzing each other's neghole despite dropping like flies from AIDS. And they kept this up for millions of years.

Millions. Of. Years.

They have no right to shit on any other race and should accept their extinction with dignity, and leave the galaxy to its true ruler, the God Emperor of Mankind.

I want a big titty blueberry wife so it's the greater good for me then.
Boy, are you in for a treat!

Tau have basically no sexual dimorphism, there is no real difference between male and female ones.
 
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