What conspiracy theories do you believe in? - Put your tinfoil hats on

That, the below PSA, the recent drone thing, and definitely other little pings here and there I can't quantify
Trump's recent attacks on Iran made me think about this again. Is it possible they stage another inside job on New York City, akin to 9/11, blaming it on Iran - to justify the war with Iran even more? Or am I just schizo?
 
There's no conspiracy your boss really is incompetent. People who want companies don't actually like people in management positions or competent because the name challenged them for leadership.
 
The explanation I was given once on /x/ was that it was "too dangerous" to go straight across,
I believe it's because of navigational equipment and the 'Kalman filter' - a 'best guess' of where an aircraft is in 3D time and space; air speed (in relation to sea level) altitude, GPS locations etc. When the kalman filter shits the bed, you are left to rely on compass and map. Because the compass works on reference to the magnetic poles - magnetic north and physical north are two different areas, it send the compass and the navigation equipment haywire. You can easily get lost and fly around in circles at the top/bottom of the world until you run out of fuel and crash into an ice sheet. Though you wouldn't know you were crashing because everything is white and your computer data airspeed and altitude reads 🤷‍♂️

(This is going from memory of how it was explained to me by a fighter pilot and the training we had on the nav systems)
 
The USA itself was a fake empire made up by the USSR to pre-emptively justify their oncoming implosion caused by their own incompetence and corruption. They made up English hap-hazardly based on German, to go along with the hoax, which explains why there are so many weird inconsistencies in how words are spelled. The hoax got out of hand so much that people all over the world are speaking English to this day, even though the demographic majority is chinks and pajeets.


What's a bit odd is if you click those dots at bottom, the names don't match their locations. The furthest south orange one says "Hulhule Island" but that's in the Maldives.
Many dots, especially on islands outside in the ocean, are registered to other places, as you pointed out yourself for the Antarctica dots.
That heat map of the world is a great resource.
 
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Would like to remind all of you to prepare for an Electro Magnetic Pulse (EMP) aka cyber 9/11 as soon as possible because of the amount of outages that have been going on are not gonna stop. There has also been a ton of apocalyptic and dystopian movies and shit predicting this: 28 Years Later, I am Legend, Civil War, TLOU, Fallout, hunger games, the purge etc.

#1 movie I think could happen the most out of all of them is the 5th Wave with Chloe grace moretz because it shows the avian flu being our next virus after the power goes out and also a bunch of hurricane/tsunami stuff happening in the east coast which will be blamed on climate change. however, the aliens will be created by us humans, and are not real extra terrestrials.
 
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the aliens will be created by us humans, and are not real extra terrestrials.
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What do people think of the claim that Israel controls the US Government?
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Space exploration was reeled back after the moon landings not just because it's expensive and the money was needed for gibs, but more so because space exploration would be massive new markets that are not under direct physical control.
Yes, the 70s saw the oil crisis and generally a shift in economics and after the moon was reached, there was little direct economic incentive to further explore space. It had been done because it was hard (and to one-up the Russkies), so now it was over. But space exploration would have been a huge new frontier, massive new markets and opportunities for building spaceships, stations, and potential colonies. There might have also been a certain general spirit of optimism around it, humanity taking its next steps. Aufbruchsstimmung.
But that isn't desirable, TPTB don't want people to think they can ultimately leave this planet and go elsewhere, even if that "elsewhere" would still be dependent on Earth for the foreseeable future. It's the spirit that is not desirable, along with markets that are far, far away.
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There was a shift in the Zeitgeist, and maybe it wasn't just a natural reaction to the Vietnam war and the oil crisis and the still looming Cold War. Maybe there was a deliberate hampering of the human spirit with a focus on climate change and "we need to fix this planet and all its people before we can think of anything else".
Nuclear fusion research funding was reaching a peak in the mid to late 70s, and projections from 1976 suggested that fusion could have been achieved by 1990 with a maximum of 10 billion dollars per year budget, or in the 2000s with just 4 billion per year max. Instead the funding was decreased and the fusion constant of "we'll have commercial fusion in 25 years" became a running joke. Now it's getting better due to more and more smaller, private efforts getting in on the game and potentially having new solutions, but I believe we could have been much further ahead by now. And I beginning to think the stunting of the human spirit (in the West, at least) was a deliberate move.
Although it's not provable. The way things developed in the 70s does also appear pretty logical and understandable. The clash between USA and USSR cooled down, the USSR underwent reforms, and the '68 movement saw a shift in the spirits of the younger generation throughout the West. The Red Scare was over, the '68 movement established more left-wing ideas, and climate science started to publish the most dire predictions. Add in the late effects of the civil rights movement that saw a sizeable portion of Americans technically free and equal but still locked in poverty, and you get the notion that there are more pressing issues than sending a few people into space at great cost.
But it still feels like we're in the wrong timeline, that this isn't the future we should be in. Maybe it's just that Science Fiction got it all wrong back then, being too optimistic about humanity and not taking into account that short term profits would always be more important to those who have the capital.
It feels wrong, and has been going wrong since the 80s, really, and it all culminated now in the Current Year Clownworld. But it seems like there's a change now. Private companies are picking up the slack now in areas like fusion research and space travel. Elon Musk might be a drug-addled retard, but he does kinda have that optimistic spirit of "making the future happen".
Let's hope it's not too late, and the past decade of Clownworld social divide and Internet parasocial brainrot and now AI brainrot haven't broken down the mental capabilities of people too much to recover.

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The question is always, "qui bono?". Especially now and here, politicians in general are seen as serving mainly corporate interests, greed, and to maintain a certain status quo. But corporations could have benefitted massively from a continued technological race towards the stars, so it would seem that the desire to slow down technological progress would come from a different direction that technology based corporations. Of course, at that point in the 70s and 80s, much of the research both in space and nuclear fusion was still government-funded, so there were many different groups that wanted pieces of that particular tax-cake. So with dwindling government funds, why did it take several more decades until private companies started cropping up to get in on it? Why was it just accepted that space and fusion were done at snails' pace by inefficient government entities? I think there it goes back to the lack of human and entrepeneurial spirit, something was lost or suppressed sometime in the 70s. The hippie movement brought a focus on spiritualism and naturalism. There was no desire to go to space because LSD was enough. Fusion was nuclear and thus bad, and so was most technology. At the same time, the proliferation of home computers started, and the new hot thing in the 80s were electronics. Much easier to start a company from your garage with that.
Sorry, I'm just spitballing and rambling. There's probably not some actual interference behind this shift in mindset and it's probably just how things have evolved, but it's an interesting thing to ponder. As usual, the '68 movement ruined everything.
 
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Everything is fake, we are all just NPC mobs here to be knocked down by the real Player One, Christine Christopher Christian Jesus Christ Goddess Blue Heart Sonichu Prime Weston Chandler, the only True and Honest Creator.
What do people think of the claim that Israel controls the US Government?
It is not Israel, but the Elders of Zion. Israel is just their home base, but Bibi serves ZOG, but isn't their top commander.
 
What do people think of the claim that Israel controls the US Government?

Son this thread is for conspiracy theories not for easily verifiable facts.

There was a shift in the Zeitgeist, and maybe it wasn't just a natural reaction to the Vietnam war and the oil crisis and the still looming Cold War. Maybe there was a deliberate hampering of the human spirit with a focus on climate change and "we need to fix this planet and all its people before we can think of anything else".

The 1970s was in a way the first Clown World. I think you will get a kick out of this website, tracking the exact 'wall' you think that humanity hit in the 1970s with the dropping of the gold standard in the USA (also China being welcomed in the WTO, the end of Vietnam, the apex of 1960s bright eyed leftism at the start of the decade before it got replaced by hardcore commies and more)


I dont remember EMPs being any sort of plot point in the video games where they constantly beat you over the head with "NUKES!".

You are right. Because in Fallout the wacky timeline only invented transistors in the 2050s instead of the late 1940s we did. Vaccum Tubes are super fucking hardcore when it comes to tanking EMPs. Also the Fallout universe had more small nukes than the ones we had IRL, they went for quantity with hundreds of thousands of 15 to 100 kiloton nukes while IRL we developed thermonuclear fission-fusion bombs and went for 300kt average. It's also why that world is so fucking irradiated, nukes are dirtier when smaller, the bigger a nuke is the cleaner it ends up (If you plot amount of radioactive fallout to yield it's pretty much a direct improvement. The Tsar Bomba for example was extremely clean producing less fallout per megaton than a if you detonated 2 25 megaton ones, or 5 10 megaton ones.)
 
Evolution takes place over very long times, kinda hard to directly observe it.
This is a common misconception with evolution. In truth evolution can occur very rapidly and often does, but in the context that the environment has changed. Evolution in an unchanging environment is going to be slower after the initial adaptation to said environment. You can think of this in the sense that selection pressures are at their highest when the environment has changed and as an organism adapts to its environment the pressure lessens and lessens.

Selective breeding shows this off really well, as you can constantly adjust for the selection pressure, and especially in organisms that breed rapidly like insects or some reptiles. That being said the Russian Fox Experiment managed to produce very docile and even affectionate foxes in a human lifetime(they even had to make a new category for them, their "elites"). To quote from the wiki:
After the fox had reached sexual maturity at an age of seven to eight months, "they had their final test and assigned an overall tameness score." Among the factors that went into this score were the tendency "to approach an experimenter standing at the front of its home pen" and "to bite the experimenters when they tried to touch it."
The least domesticated are in Class III; those that allow humans to pet and handle them, but that do not respond to contact with friendliness, are in Class II; the ones that are friendly with humans are in Class I. After only six generations, Belyayev and his team had to add a higher category, Class IE, the "domesticated elite", which "are eager to establish human contact, whimpering to attract attention and sniffing and licking experimenters like dogs.

I've personally done my own selective breeding experiments on things that reach maturity in under a month and have seen massive changes in a year or less, but I'll avoid posting more TMI. There's also plenty that could be said on the evolution of humans. I've read figures that state the rate of change in humans has increased by something like 100x over the last 5000 years. You can best see this through the lens of how our wisdom teeth are considered bad now, but before agriculture we used to have larger jaws(look at Africans and their prognathsim) and those teeth were basically your final set before you died. They weren't going to be painful or awful and crowded teeth were less common. Even before modern dental care they had a use since people tended to lose their other teeth so that their wisdom teeth could fit by the time they came in.
But aren't there like snakes that still have tiny tiny legs? Exactly what you'd expect for a species evolving slowly.
Pythons still have their legs, but that's better to view as an atavism or vestigial. Pic related.
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With an atavism there usually isn't enough of a pressure to strongly select for their removal and often enough the related mechanisms around forming them have interdependencies with other developmental processes.
How come animals and us with our coccyx bone, have vestigial bones and organs? Why didn't evolution wipe them out when they weren't needed? It seems inefficient to be dragging around shit deemed useless by nature,
Like I mentioned above, it can be somewhat hard to get rid of them and the pressure to be rid of them usually isn't that great. Some traits are thought of as atavistic but also do still have some uses, like our appendix. You have likely heard that our appendix is totally atavistic, but it does seemingly play a role in maintaining the bacteria in our large intestines and so is still useful. We don't need it to survive but having it still conveys a benefit. Our coccyx also isn't useless, it's a major attachment point for various muscles, tendons and ligaments. Removing your coccyx will fuck with your mobility.
avoidant food restrictive intake disorder even exist.
I like the tastes of many different kinds of foods but if it's made the wrong way I will physically gag and feel nauseous. It is a real thing, but I think it's overblown with a lot of people. Like in my case I love strawberries and grapes for their flavor but biting into a strawberry feels like I'm eating a bug infested piece of styrofoam and grapes feel like eating snotty bits of something squidgy and worm-like. Mind you, I have no bad experiences with eating strawberries or grapes beyond the sensation of it. There's a reason why ARFID is something associated with the 'tism, people with the 'tism can either have excessively strong sensations or diminished sensations. This is why some autists will cry and scream if there's a loud noise whilst others will be unresponsive.
Can anyone enlighten me on why the aquatic ape theory is so maligned? It doesn't seem too insane to me, but I've seen anthropologists chimp out (heehee) about it.
So, the aquatic ape hypothesis is more maligned in recent times because of the whole mermaids fake documentary shit that came out. Before that though the hypothesis poorly attributed various traits to aquatic evolution and in a way that's pretty poor. Namely, from what I remember, it proposed the following:
  • Our reduced body hair is an adaptation for swimming for better hydrodynamics.
  • The placement of our nose facing downwards is to better be able to swim, as nostrils facing forward like other apes would fill up with water
  • Our less dense bodies make more sense for swimming
  • Our ability to give birth in water and have babies hold their breath and swim for the surface is """evidence""" of our aquatic origins
  • IIRC sweating was supposed to be a measure to get excess salt out of us, like how some reptiles have salt glands to expel excess salt
  • The layer of fat beneath our skin being like blubber
There are a number of problems with these points though.

First off the reduction in body hair is actually a poor adaptation for animals our size to adapt to water. You see this best in seals and otters, although the original theory iirc compared us to whales and hippos(much bigger animals). Seals and otters actually have MORE hair per square centimeter than most land mammals. This is because their dense fur actually traps air between their hair and skin to act like insulation, which is more useful for smaller, warm-blooded animals in the water all of the time. The square-cube law means that smaller animals have a larger surface area relative to the heat producing tissue, thus they lose more heat relative to how much they can generate it. This is bad if you live in the water all of the time and humans can and will die of hypothermia in even fairly warm waters if they're left in those waters constantly.

For the seals and otters, same with penguins too actually, this does not cause any real issues with drag. When the fur or feathers are so dense like this they avoid creating much turbulence(thus the drag) and instead act more like one solid and largely smooth surface.

Secondly the placement of our nose has more to do with the changes in the shape of our skull and jaws. Humans have had a major reduction in the size of our jaws and this has led to the nose pointing downwards more. However the placement of our nose is not to the benefit of this hypothesis as most diving animals who spend the majority of their time in the water develop nostrils that close, whilst we lack those. Here's a nice picture showing off why our noses point more downwards.
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Thirdly our less dense bodies make more sense in the context of travelling over larger distances, which fits with how some of the most primitive human populations were observed hunting and how some human populations still hunt via persistence hunting. A denser body costs more energy to move over a larger distance. Bipedalism is actually advantageous for this too as exhaustion is also a factor in persistence hunting and running/walking on two legs is more energy efficient than doing so on four.

Fourthly the ability to give birth in water is not unique to humans. It's part of the mammalian dive reflex and is exhibited by a lot of other mammals who don't spend any considerable amount of time in water.

Fifthly sweating is far better explained with the persistence hunting mentioned prior. Sweating allows us to quickly lose heat via evaporative cooling, which is essential when you're trying to basically get another animal to die from heat exhaustion/stroke. Sweating only accumulates salt outside of the body in the sense that it excretes water at about the same salinity as that of the water in your body and it can not be recovered, nor can the water. This makes sweat a very poor adaptation to dealing with the saltiness of the ocean as you're not conserving water whilst purging sweat, thus making the ingestion of seawater a losing game.

Most mammals who evolve to live in the oceans or to drink sea water usually evolve better kidneys to be able to do this. In the case of whales and dolphins they actually get a good amount of their water from their prey whilst also having their powerful kidneys. This also relates to the whole hairlessness thing as our bodies are very well adapted to lose heat, not retain it. Thus why we have long limbs and not-so-stocky abdomens and chests. People who've evolved in colder climates tend to be stumpier and more stocky.

Sixthly the layer of fat beneath our skin is not like blubber at all. Its insulating ability is terrible. Real blubber is dense, thick, fatty tissue that is poorly vascularized. Our skin however is quite vascularized, as again we evolved to get rid of excess heat and not to retain it. Our layer of fat beneath the skin is also quite thin.

All of that said though, our ancestors did make more and more use out of aquatic resources but this would've been at either around the time of Homo Erectus or afterwards(I remember some of the earliest evidence being with Neanderthals and modern Homo Sapiens), thus after our most notable features that the hypothesis proposes evolved. What features we have that are useful for aquatic lifestyles are thus exaptations. Exaptations being adaptations that were originally evolved to deal with one issue but proved to be useful for a new issue that they were then made to deal with.

An example would be an animal having green skin to camouflage itself and then being put into an environment where the color green attracts a kind of prey, but to which there is little green around for them to hide. The original adaptation is useful for its original purpose but has a useful purpose in this new environment but via a different method.
1. Virtually no monkeys spend any time in water.
That said I do agree, the aquatic ape hypothesis sucks and from what I remember it was originally made by some dipshit who wanted to put a feminist lens on human origins.
The actual numbers the Greens are working off of sound something like, "12 million hectares of arable land are lost to desertification every year, therefore, we're going to run out of all arable land in 60 to 120 years".
Isn't that mostly in places like Africa and other shitholes though? I know there are some issues with desertification in the US and also parts of Europe(namely Spain) but we know how to deal with these issues, they're just not being dealt with properly. It's largely a matter of poor prudence and if there was more focus and attention brought to those issues then it'd be even less of an issue. China is already fighting its own desertification as an example and is doing so quite well from what I heard.

Also in the mean time I had some more ideas about fighting some other climate issues, but I doubt most people want to hear about them. I even think I came up with a cool way to fix up ozone holes that should be more than feasible and arguably immensely cheaper than a lot of the "green energy" shit that's thrown around, although it does benefit from solar power and batteries being made cheaper.

As I've thought on it recently though it almost seems like these kinds of people want there to be a major ecological crisis.
 
The 1970s was in a way the first Clown World. I think you will get a kick out of this website, tracking the exact 'wall' you think that humanity hit in the 1970s with the dropping of the gold standard in the USA (also China being welcomed in the WTO, the end of Vietnam, the apex of 1960s bright eyed leftism at the start of the decade before it got replaced by hardcore commies and more)
Yeah, I was about to touch on the 1971 phenomenon as well.
I dont remember EMPs being any sort of plot point in the video games where they constantly beat you over the head with "NUKES!".
Fallout takes place in a world still running on vacuum tubes, which are inherently more stable against EMP. Also, for significant EMP effects the nuke has to go off in the stratosphere.
Also, Fallout runs on the laws of SCIENCE!, basically how they imagined science and the future to be in pulp novels of the 50s, so maybe EMP just isn't really a thing...
 
Something related to all of the water origins talk on page 356, I have my own little theory that a lot of the atmospheric oxygen that we have is actually the result of "lost water". That is that the Earth in the past is known to have had enough water to cover almost 100% of its surface, but through various processes is thought to have had that water either end up trapped in the mantle(the hydrogen/oxygen that is, not liquid water itself) or the various shifts via plate tectonics allowed for the water to become more concentrated in what are now our deep oceans as compared to shallower oceans of the past.

However hydrogen and helium will not last in our atmosphere on its own. It will rise up into the upper atmosphere and be stripped away by solar wind and cosmic radiation. The Earth would've also been much more radioactive in the past, just looking at Uranium 238 there would have been 2x as much of the stuff at the start of Earth's formation than there is now and something like 64x as much Uranium 235(the more radioactive isotope). Radioactive decay causes radiolysis, which is the breaking of chemical bonds via the immense forces of the radioactive particles ejected. To better exemplify how much a radioactive decay event can release, radioactive decay events are measured in hundreds KeV or kilo-electronvolts. Chemical bonds are measured in single to double digit eV. One alpha decay event can release some 4.5 MeV of energy and thus break the bonds of thousands of molecules.

The alternative is that the free oxygen comes largely from oxygenic photosynthesizers utilizing carbon dioxide and the subsequent carbon was later taken out of the cycle. However this has some problems. A great deal of the carbon in the carbon cycle is not trapped in hydrocarbon sources like oil and natural gas but in carbonaceous minerals, like limestone(e.g. the geological carbon cycle). Limestone has its oxygen with it, in the form of CaCO3 and MgCO3. The carbon dioxide's oxygen is thus stored with it. Some 15% of all sedimentary rocks are thought to be just limestone, for reference. Basalts and other igneous rocks also contain alkali and alkali earth metals oxides in them that will turn into those carbonate minerals after exposure to water and then carbon dioxide. This means that geologically carbon dioxide from the biological carbon cycle is very prone to being taken in by the geological carbon cycle and trapped that way until it is released later in the geological carbon cycle.

The summation further of all biogenic hydrocarbons is dwarfed by the amount of oxygen in the atmosphere. We can't suffocate ourselves by burning all of the coal, oil or natural gas there is in our crust. Nor if we then further burned all of the living matter on the planet. There is a calculated 1,000,000 gigatonnes of oxygen in our atmosphere today. That's a million billion tons of oxygen. Now let's compare that to some stored quantities of carbon stored from life in the form of oil:

There is thought to be 1.6 trillion barrels of oil still left on our planet to exploit. If each barrel of oil is 140 kg of oil each then that's about 224 trillion kg or 224 gigatonnes of oil. Now let's just assume oil requires 5x its weight in oxygen to fully burn through, that'd mean 224 gigatons of oil would consume over 1,000 gigatonnes of oxygen. This is less than 1% of the atmospheric oxygen still around today. It's about 0.1%. How much do you think natural gas and coal can add to that? I'd wager no where near enough to reach near 100%.

TL;DR: I think a lot of our atmospheric surplus of oxygen comes from lost hydrogen due to radioactive elements in Earth's past breaking hydrogen compounds into hydrogen and their other elements and that hydrogen being stripped by solar wind. Oxygen producing photosynthesizers seem insufficient to explain it solely.

As for water itself and its origins on Earth, certain types of meteors are rich in hydrocarbons and comets of course are rich in both hydrocarbons and water itself. Oxygen is the most abundant element on Earth, so with some geochemistry oxygen can be pulled from various minerals and attach to the hydrogen or carbon to form things like carbon dioxide, methane and water. One of the things that volcanoes emit actually is water vapor itself. Water can not easily exist at the temperatures lava is at, it would dissociate into hydrogen and oxygen separately and that's without taking the interactions of the water and various minerals at such high temperatures. 1000c is the temperature when water on its own starts breaking down into hydrogen and oxygen with higher temperatures increasing the ratio of water to hydrogen and oxygen gas.

This is to say that much of the hydrogen that would/does become water in our water cycle would've and likely did already exist in the magma and atmosphere of Hadean eon Earth. But as the temperatures cooled and various eruptions occurred it was all allowed to reform into water, methane and various other hydrocarbons.
 
NASA's Voyager Spacecraft Found A 30,000-50,000 Kelvin "Wall" At The Edge Of Our Solar System
It's a pity Voyager doesn't have a langmuir probe, or anything similar, to measure the voltage difference across that "wall". It sounds very much like a plasma double layer.
 
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