2025 Israel vs Iran War

von Hapasbourg said:
China is interested on discounted Iranian oil. Iran is one of China's major energy partners. They are basically fueling China's economy. I doubt to see them not getting involved in a major way if America invades.
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i think that china is annoyed with iran tbh
remember the chinese aren't muslims, to them it looks like iran is just constantly antagonizing israel (and by extension america) over pointless retard bullshit that isn't worth anything. chinks do plenty of business with israel themselves, chinks don't care about the plight of pali muslims (they are doing a hard crackdown on uyghur muslims themselves) and chinks probably don't think highly of iran for taking their state to the brink of war for no reason except fanatical jew hatred and religious fanaticism.

>We had a good thing, you stupid son of a bitch!
>You had oil. We had trade. We had everything we needed, and it all ran like clockwork. You could've shut your mouth, drilled, and made as much money as you ever needed. It was perfect.
>But, no, you just had to blow it up. You and your pride and your ego! You just had to be the man!
>If you'd done your job, known your place, we'd all be fine right now.
 
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Donald_J_Trump said:
As disappointed as I am about Trump handing me a “fell for it again award”.

I wanna play devil’s advocate.

Biden’s government was not as strong with preventing the war in Ukraine, abandoned American Afghan allies to the Taliban, and generally made the USA look weak on the global stage. I think Trump is over compensating because this is the first real conflict that has “started”, generally speaking, during his term. I think his goal is to say “this is how America defends an ally”.

Also the boomerism faux pas of Israel not being a military ally of the USA. Only allies who give each other info and aid, and that is very fucking one sided.
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Honestly I think that anyone that feels like "trump handed me a "fell for it again award" fooled themselves more than trump ever did.

Trumps first term showed us plenty that his non-interventionism was more about not getting into stupid ground invasions or protracted war shit than anything else. Random strikes to accomplish goals were always still on the table. This is that, just like when we killed that Iranian general in 2020, just like when we bombed that Syrian airstrip. He's always postured himself as "we're not going to occupy and nation build, but we're not going to just sit back and wag our finger, if you fuck around we'll still make you find out"

The people that have been acting like this is somehow new from him now with Iran are either conservatives that just weren't paying attention somehow, or libs who are arguing in bad faith and for some reason now want to argue "ohhhhh you said no forever wars so you were supposed to just watch Iran build nukes you liar!"

And honestly that's exactly what I voted for with him, I don't want an Iraq or and Afghanistan or a Libya, but I don't want for that to be that we just sit back like cucks and watch a country like Iran nuclearize
 
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Iran is prepping to go full retard:
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I'm still your friend. said:
A diagnosis for mental retardation? It was "Make Iran Great Again". Your love for your delusions is greater than your love for reality.
There's nothing inherently wrong with escapist fantasies, but you should own up to it.
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It was a joke, bozo. Shouldn't you be in the General thread where you can mass down-toot any criticism of your e-daddy? Don't you have a Elong motivational Youtube video to watch about getting rich or something?
 
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The moment Syria fell, Iran was doomed. It didn’t matter who was elected into the White House.
Burnt Fish said:
Honestly I think that anyone that feels like "trump handed me a "fell for it again award" fooled themselves more than trump ever did.

Trumps first term showed us plenty that his non-interventionism was more about not getting into stupid ground invasions or protracted war shit than anything else. Random strikes to accomplish goals were always still on the table. This is that, just like when we killed that Iranian general in 2020, just like when we bombed that Syrian airstrip. He's always postured himself as "we're not going to occupy and nation build, but we're not going to just sit back and wag our finger, if you fuck around we'll still make you find out"

The people that have been acting like this is somehow new from him now with Iran are either conservatives that just weren't paying attention somehow, or libs who are arguing in bad faith and for some reason now want to argue "ohhhhh you said no forever wars so you were supposed to just watch Iran build nukes you liar!"

And honestly that's exactly what I voted for with him, I don't want an Iraq or and Afghanistan or a Libya, but I don't want for that to be that we just sit back like cucks and watch a country like Iran nuclearize
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he literally killed an Iranian general. He dropped bombs on the Houthi. How is this any different?
 
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Burnt Fish said:
Honestly I think that anyone that feels like "trump handed me a "fell for it again award" fooled themselves more than trump ever did.

Trumps first term showed us plenty that his non-interventionism was more about not getting into stupid ground invasions or protracted war shit than anything else. Random strikes to accomplish goals were always still on the table. This is that, just like when we killed that Iranian general in 2020, just like when we bombed that Syrian airstrip. He's always postured himself as "we're not going to occupy and nation build, but we're not going to just sit back and wag our finger, if you fuck around we'll still make you find out"

The people that have been acting like this is somehow new from him now with Iran are either conservatives that just weren't paying attention somehow, or libs who are arguing in bad faith and for some reason now want to argue "ohhhhh you said no forever wars so you were supposed to just watch Iran build nukes you liar!"

And honestly that's exactly what I voted for with him, I don't want an Iraq or and Afghanistan or a Libya, but I don't want for that to be that we just sit back like cucks and watch a country like Iran nuclearize
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I'm going to hard disagree. He made numerous, numerous statements about not getting us into conflicts or policing the world, never singling out he only meant not ground invasions. He outright said, many times, the thing you're saying he didn't say. Respectfully, Trump supporters often engage in this sort of revision for his statements. I also pay way fucking more attention to politics than the average politically engaged Republican.
 
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Catch The Rainbow said:
Iran sent a communiqué to Trump in the days before last night's attacks threatening to activate sleeper-cell terror inside the United States if it were attacked, sources tell NBC News
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I know you have a link (you always give it when people claim you made this up), so why not include it as required by the rules?
 
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Useful_Mistake said:
I know you have a link (you always give it when people claim you made this up), so why not include it as required by the rules?
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I forgot.

Amit Segal:

Senior officials in Israel estimate that Iran will coordinate in one way or another attack on the United States, as it was done after the elimination of Kassem Suleimani. This is to prevent unplanned escalation and from hope to close the event. Perhaps this background reports that the US already knows that the attack will be in the next 48 hours.

China is quietly making moves asking Iran not to cut off the Strait of Hormuz
 
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Harambe said:
can you really not envision any strategic interests for America, a de facto global empire, in the biggest energy producing region on earth? If you let go of some of your preconceived ideas you'll be able to have clear thoughts that are logically consistent with the visible world.
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America produces, drills, and refines enough oil for itself, what are you talking about? America produces so much oil that excess oil is burned and it's literally viewable on satellite images.

Japan's actually the biggest benefactor from Arabian oil, but the Japanese don't have Japanese military bases in the Middle-East. There's actually a surprising amount of Japanese people working in the oil industry in the Middle-East and North Africa. When the Gulf War happened, Japan was a no-show and was widely criticized for it. The best Japan could muster was monetary donation, they ain't sending their people on that god forsaken desert.

American interference in the Middle-East is entirely driven by Israel. There is no resource-driven reason for America to be in the Middle-East. It's all Israeli agenda.

I'm trying to be generous here by being informative, but its actually disheartening that people have such a misguided and frankly exaggerated view of the Middle-East.

And I am not a leftist, but growing up as a child with the Gulf War, 9/11, the Iraq War, the Afghanistan War, and now an Iranian War, anyone with an ounce of a brain cell would start to see how absolutely unnecessary all of these wars are, and all paths lead to Israel. It's about time the right-wing calls it out.
 
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HOMO FOR LIFE RETURNS said:
REGIME CHANGE, MOTHERFUCKER.

Next stage is struggling weapons to anti government forces.
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I was going to say, there are no known anti-government forces in Iran right now and so far the opposition's flashiest maneuver has just been the Crown Prince giving interviews on Fox News, but then I remembered this entire war (as in the actual direct and sustained Israeli/American-Iranian hostilities, not the geopolitical rivalry that goes back decades) is barely 10 days old. So much has happened that it feels like it's been six months already...

Anyway, looking at Syria as an example, it took four months since the outbreak of the initial Syrian civil revolution in March of 2011 for the Free Syrian Army to be founded, and then it took another two months (so until September of 2011) for the first real battles of the conflict - turning the civil revolution into a civil war - to occur. Barring the entire Iranian government fleeing to Russia like Assad and/or a coup causing the Islamic Republic to collapse immediately (exceedingly unlikely IMO, one of the things the Mullahs have done since gaining power was to thoroughly coup-proof their military & other institutions, as the regular military was originally feared to be packed full of Shah loyalists), I would guess at at least two months minimum from now for an Imperial Iranian Army 2.0, Free Iranian Army, or whatever else armed opposition factions might call themselves to organize and start doing real shit, even allowing for 50% acceleration of the Syrian timeframe based on assumed Mossad genius and/or Jewish sorcery.
 
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inetsone said:
I'm going to hard disagree. He made numerous, numerous statements about not getting us into conflicts or policing the world, never singling out he only meant not ground invasions. He outright said, many times, the thing you're saying he didn't say. Respectfully, Trump supporters often engage in this sort of revision for his statements. I also pay way fucking more attention to politics than the average politically engaged Republican.
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how could we ever forsee it coming trump hid it from his base! Trump Lied! Brown People Died! we fell for it again bros!

But no, paying attention to him it was always fairly evident his angle wasn't "I will do nothing militarily outside of the US" and he's always had a strong streak of "peace through strength" messaging that while we shouldn't be fucking around nation building it doesn't mean we won't do some shit like bomb people that fuck with us or our interests.
 
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Iranian official tells CNN Tehran wants the US to "pay" for its attacks "directly"
From CNN’s Fred Pleitgen
The Iranian regime wants the United States to “directly pay for the war, rather than standing behind Israel and pursue its project without having to pay the cost,” a senior Iranian official told CNN on Monday.
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The problem with the US having a fair 1v1 with Iran is that if we face off against them in the ring they aren't tall enough to deliver anything besides a low blow, so what's the point?
 
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Catch The Rainbow said:
https://www.nbcnews.com/nightly-news/video/u-s-officials-iran-threatened-terror-attacks-inside-u-s-242058821681
I forgot.
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Could you provide one for this post as well:

Catch The Rainbow

Post in thread '2025 Israel vs Iran War'


How many years was the Iranian nuclear program reversed?

"The assessment is that we have set it back more than a decade."
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How long should the public prepare for?

"We prepared the public for a protracted campaign. It is not up to us, but to the Iranians. If the Iranians go with us to a war of attrition, it will be a long campaign, and there is still time. But that's not what we want, we want to close the event soon – this week – and if that happens, it's up to Khamenei. If he shoots non-stop...
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Thank you for your help
 
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