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I'd actually appreciate an explanation of this, too. I noticed some protestors holding TACO signs in Lou Gagliardi's thread the other day, and I thought they were just expressing solidarity with Mexico or something.
.....their version of the burger suit??

i dunno
 
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So what is the consensus view here? From the pictures released thus far, this whole thing seems to be nothing but political theater to me. Trump waited for Iran to move all their centrifuges and uranium, then we bombed some entrance tunnels, ignored all surface structures, and didn't even attempt to penetrate the actual nuclear facility. Even that cringe "Topgun: Maverick" plot thing Fox was pushing was bullshit, the MOPs didn't fall into the same crater for more penetration. Even the Iranian missile retaliation is empty theatrics.

These were the safest places in Iran to locate the centrifuges. If they were removed from those locations, they will eventually be destroyed at some other location.

Destroying the actual Uranium was always going to be utterly impossible. Whatever Iran already has, they have and nothing really would change that. The best that could be done is to damage their most secure facilities as much as possible and to potentially have damaged their existing centrifuges.

How much damage has been to the facilities. Truth is, nobody who knows that is talking to the public. But there are alot of people out there who will claim that they know everything.

Its always been the case that there is no way at all to permanently stop the Iranian nuclear program. Bombing isn't going to destroy the Uranium they already have. Whenever the bombing stops, they can reconstruct whatever has been destroyed. There is nothing difficult about making a nuclear weapon if you have the things Iran has.

To keep the Iranians out of production by force is going to require a periodic bombing campaign that will go on forever. But that is probably the only option on the table right now. Iran now has enough material to make a handful of bombs. The question now isn't preventing Iran from having "a" bomb. Its a question of how many bombs they are going to be allowed to have.

The last time the US tried to deal with this problem, we got the Obama deal which bribed the Iranians with planeloads of cash, agreed to Iran having everything it wanted openly after about ten years and promised the Saudis that they could have their own nuclear program. The Obama deal was in every respect worse than the bombing campaign.

But realistically all of this is way too late. Iran is now a nuclear country and in the long run, American policy toward Iran is likely to weaken at some point in the future after Trump. Iran has also proved that it has capacity to drop some missiles on the major cities of Israel regardless of any defense system. And statistically if those missiles had nuclear weapons in them, the major cities of Israel could be hit with them.

So in the end, as usual, its meaningless. It doesn't matter. All that what has been will accomplish is changing the topic of conversation in the mainstream media from ICE to this.
 
Considering the evil their ideology allows to blossom, you might imagine neoliberals are ghouls, but they can be very sympathetic. Unfortunately, their sympathy is strangely misplaced. They won’t shed a tear for the 73 million children killed each year by abortion. But they do memorialize roadkill:
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Bram Koese of Holland goes farther, having enlisted 25 assistants to help out in his roadkill memorial activities:

Just in case Dutch motorists cannot find a better use for their time.

If anyone tried doing the same for aborted children in the Netherlands, they might be thrown in prison.
That's pretty silly but what does this have to do with America? And why are you so angry? They're just a bunch of little roadkill crosses. Its performance art.
 
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Bram Koese of Holland goes farther, having enlisted 25 assistants to help out in his roadkill memorial activities
My problem with this (other than it being ugly) is that roadkill isn't the result of malice or even negligence, it's a complete accident. There is no thought to be taken away here, like advocacy for nature preserves, better highway design or some improvement an onlooker can make while driving. It's just pointless browbeating, an obsession with punishment.
 
I'd actually appreciate an explanation of this, too. I noticed some protestors holding TACO signs in Lou Gagliardi's thread the other day, and I thought they were just expressing solidarity with Mexico or something.
Because Mexicans = tacos. They unintentionally are racist by trying to be not racist. It's amazing. :story:
 
Trump Always Chickens Out
The worst insult in the history of politics.


That's what they tried on this, amazing.

There's so many layers of why it's stupid, from tacos themselves being positive things, to 'chickens out' being a 5th grader insult, to it meaning 'ok, then do more of what you don't like'. Crazy
 
These were the safest places in Iran to locate the centrifuges. If they were removed from those locations, they will eventually be destroyed at some other location.
Bro, do you know how huuuuge Iran is? Pretty sure Fordow isn’t the only place where you can stick some centrifuges under a mountain..
It’s always been the case that there is no way at all to permanently stop the Iranian nuclear program. Bombing isn't going to destroy the Uranium they already have. Whenever the bombing stops, they can reconstruct whatever has been destroyed. There is nothing difficult about making a nuclear weapon if you have the things Iran has.
True. A diplomatic deal, aside from just occupying the country, was always the way to go.

But AIPAC says we can’t do that, so…

Anyways, nuff doomposting. Here’s some Redditors seething over the latest SCOTUS decision:

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i started seeing retards on tiktok call trump taco trump and i have absolutely no idea what its supposed to mean
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It’s a reference to those “Liberation Day” Tariffs. And a reference to the fact that Trump always goes “Whoops! Nevermind that!” Anytime some major tariffs are about to take effect.
 
you guys want the poor ballistic missile mechanics to go hungry, who are they going to sell the bombs to if we have peace?

Some of yall just dont spare 1 thought to the economy when you post and it shows.

For my part ever since Trump got elected Ive been buying enough socks to wear a BRAND NEW PAIR every day baby. Do I donate them when Im done? no that encourages handouts, bad for the economy, I have hired a Vietnamese "labor force" in Phuoc Dong that I have worked out a deal with where I ship the slightly used socks over on a Chinese built bulk carrier flagged out of Panama that has an all Sri Lankan crew, where they then get turned from socks back into raw fibers then moved to a factory next door where they are remade into fake Yeezys after which they are put back onto a bulk carrier, this time a Dutch built one flagged out of French Guinea with a Lebanese crew shipped back to the United States where its promptly stolen at the docks.

I see it kinda like recycling, its a civic duty.
 
Waiting for a pdf of the ruling but this is nice, I hate how SCOTUSblog drags its feet when rulings favoring Trump happen:


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It's also Clarence Thomas' aka Joyboy's birthday today!
Trump has won so hard in the past 24 hours that I feel Fatpacks needs to upgrade to a double-cheeseburger.
 
and now we've got this.
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don't get me wrong, I'm very glad we've seemed to have avoided WW3 or GWOT2 Electric Boogaloo, but let's be honest, we probably just hit a few empty bases and whatever nuclear material Iran has (as well as their technology) was moved off site thanks to our forewarning, and Iran just shot a few missiles into the desert not hitting anything in response.

What was even the point of this gay little charade?

Yeah I don't think that's going to happen. Iran is winning and there's no reason for them to stop.
 
That's pretty silly but what does this have to do with America? And why are you so angry? They're just a bunch of little roadkill crosses. Its performance art.
Get some reading comprehension before pestering others with your centrist signaling. The first quoted part literally delineates "Kentucky-based artist," and the entire article makes it clear it's a whole thing is constructed by Americans, with a few Euros butting in after the fact.
 
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