Which meds would take away certain traits of Autism?

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Around 2020, during the whole Wu-flu nonsense, I started experimenting with Chlorine Dioxide (ClO2) a.k.a MMS (Miracle Mineral Solution) after realizing how big a scam the "healthcare" industry was.
Small amounts of ClO2 are safe for human consumption, but if your shit smells like chlorine, that's throwing up more red flags than a May Day parade in Moscow circa 1957. Your toilet should not smell like the Second Battle of Ypres. Please stop bleaching your anus from the inside out.
 
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Second this.

Your basic bitch SSRI is likely to help with some of the OCD traits. It's also pretty easy to obtain since it has no street value and a pretty good side effect profile (besides ED and inability to orgasm).

Pretty much all meds are off-label for autism (ie. They were developed for another disease but are sometimes used for autism symptoms that sound similar, but who knows?)

The pacing and hyperactivity could theoretically respond to ADHD stimulants. But that would also be off-label, are controlled substances that are essentially prescription meth and have worse adverse effect profiles (insomnia, tics, cardiac arrhythmias, etc).
SSRIs are usually what they prescribe for OCD. The medication for OCD is basically the same as the medication for depression but just at a significantly higher dosage.

A funny thing about ADHD meds being used on spergs is that they can make tism symptoms significantly worse.
AuDHD havers (autism and adhd) often respond very poorly to stimulants, due to the autism traits being enhanced.
The weird thing about ADHD medications like Adderall is that if you give it to someone with legit hyperactivity it will tend to calm them down. However if you give it to a normal person it will have the complete opposite effect. My ex took some ADHD medication out of curiosity once. I came back from work to see that she had cleaned my entire apartment and was fidgeting and spazzing out like a crack addict. It's an amphetamine. It's one of the closest things to legalized meth that a doctor can prescribe you.
 
SSRIs are great for curing not being a school shooter
 
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Small amounts of ClO2 are safe for human consumption, but if your shit smells like chlorine, that's throwing up more red flags than a May Day parade in Moscow circa 1957. Your toilet should not smell like the Second Battle of Ypres. Please stop bleaching your anus from the inside out.
The ClO2 gets rid of the parasites. That’s the main thing that is causing ASD, along with vaccines. Intestinal parasites migrate to other organs after the vaccine, and the body does not fight them off, as they are weakened by the vaccine. One of the parasites produces proteins which cause an allergic reaction, and the body defends itself with inflammation.
 
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Pacing/stimming: it feels like I have too much energy sometimes. It is impossible to stop, trust me I've tried.
Compulsive thoughts: I know it's my mind that's telling me to do this but it gets to a point where I just give in and do it.
Rumination/obsession: I have dealt with this all of my life and to this day I have not found a solution for it, playing mindtricks with my head isn't enough.
I'll throw in my own two cents here and say that this seems to line up a lot more with what ADHD sufferers also tend to deal with. Rumination, as it turns out, is a fairly common aspect of it that most other people gloss over or just wouldn't suspect from things like the name of the condition alone.

I can't say for certain, though, if it is independently just an ADHD thing or if this tends to show up more as a comorbidity with 'tism. If nothing else, you could probably consider approaching things from that angle instead and getting assessed for it, and that would mean your most likely point of action would be the stimulants normally prescribed for it.

I myself only recently got assessed for and diagnosed with it as an adult. Lisdexamfetamine (Vyvanse / Elvanse) turned out to be fairly effective in curbing a good amount of the overthinking and the stress related to that.
 
I'm sure I saw a news headline only a day or two ago, about how researchers have found some anti-epilepsy medication cures the 'tism.
 
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I'm sure I saw a news headline only a day or two ago, about how researchers have found some anti-epilepsy medication cures the 'tism.
I wouldn't be shocked. Weed seems to help with both.
 
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The ClO2 gets rid of the parasites. That’s the main thing that is causing ASD, along with vaccines. Intestinal parasites migrate to other organs after the vaccine, and the body does not fight them off, as they are weakened by the vaccine. One of the parasites produces proteins which cause an allergic reaction, and the body defends itself with inflammation.
Autism is primarily hereditary, with some more limited evidence suggesting that exposure to certain in utero environmental factors could increase the risk of an individual going on to develop clinically significant studies. The most prominent study suggesting a link to vaccines (specifically, the MMR combo vaccine) was written by a guy who had created his own competitor product, and was found guilty of essentially falsifying the results. No serious evidence has ever been found, or even suggested, for parasites causing Autism in otherwise developmentally normal individuals.

That's not to say that those "worms" they claim to find haven't been tested, though. They have. The ones tested were composed of human gastrointestinal tissue that had sloughed off due to irritation by a corrosive compound, because drinking bleach makes you very literally shit your guts out. Don't. Drink. Bleach.

Or do, I guess. Whatever floats your goat. I'm a fucking Kiwi, not a crisis worker.
 
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Autism is primarily hereditary, with some more limited evidence suggesting that exposure to certain in utero environmental factors could increase the risk of an individual going on to develop clinically significant studies. The most prominent study suggesting a link to vaccines (specifically, the MMR combo vaccine) was written by a guy who had created his own competitor product, and was found guilty of essentially falsifying the results. No serious evidence has ever been found, or even suggested, for parasites causing Autism in otherwise developmentally normal individuals.

That's not to say that those "worms" they claim to find haven't been tested, though. They have. The ones tested were composed of human gastrointestinal tissue that had sloughed off due to irritation by a corrosive compound, because drinking bleach makes you very literally shit your guts out. Don't. Drink. Bleach.

Or do, I guess. Whatever floats your goat. I'm a fucking Kiwi, not a crisis worker.
Chlorine dioxide is ClO2, while bleach is NaOCl. They are different.

No such thing as a genetic epidemic. Anti-vaxxers are winning.
 
Chlorine dioxide is ClO2, while bleach is NaOCl. They are different.

No such thing as a genetic epidemic. Anti-vaxxers are winning.

Bleach doesn't refer to a specific chemical. Its a descriptive term, for a wide variety of chemicals, based upon what they do. Namely, bleaching. Chlorine dioxide is a bleach. Because it bleaches. You just don't understand what words mean

Please start taking your lithium again. Your family is worried about you
 
Chlorine dioxide is ClO2, while bleach is NaOCl. They are different.
Bleach is a generic name for a class of chlorine-containing chemicals used in cleaning, as a disinfectant, or to remove color from an industrial product. Chlorine dioxide is used industrially to bleach wood pulp and sometimes flour, because it's significantly less toxic to human beings that sodium hypochlorite and higher levels of residual bleaching agent are considered safe for human consumption. These are still very, very low amounts, often nowhere near the concentration applied to drinking water in some places to help keep thepublic safe from certain diseases, including a few causes by microparasites.

Most proponents of using chlorine dioxide to treat Autism believe the disorder to be caused by macroparasites, though. Considering how bleaching agents kill parasites, any amount high enough to harm a nematode or other worm that you can see with the naked eye is also going to be corrosive to exposed, vulnerable human tissues, like intestinal lining. It's not as bad as downing a jug of sodium hypochlorite, sure. It's still drinking bleach.


No such thing as a genetic epidemic. Anti-vaxxers are winning.

Literally everything you said here is either irrelevant, wrong, or both.

First off, yes, it is in fact possible to have a genetic epidemic. Genes coding for disorders can become more prevalent in the general population either locally, globally, or in a certain social class for a number of different reasons. It doesn't spread like a typical epidemic disease, obviously, instead becoming more prevalent in the population over a relatively short time span. The idea that Autism is a genetic epidemic has actually been suggested, since people with higher-functioning Autism may have become more likely to reproduce since the last few decades of the 20th century than they were before. I don't actually think that Autism  is a genetic epidemic, but I wanted to throw that out there because whether it's accurate or not has no bearing on whether it's possible.

That being said, though, I (and most researchers in relevant fields) think that the most likely cause for the increase in Autism diagnosis is found in the clinic rather than the gene pool. Higher-functioning Autism Spectrum Disorders have been known for close to a century (Asperger's Syndrome, which is by definition high-functioning, was first described during the Third Reich), but clinicians were much more likely to diagnose what's now called ASD in people with severe developmental disability. Greater access to specialists for people in marginal areas, policies geared toward early screening for even milder cases, and more sensitive diagnostic measures have led to more people with high-functioning ASD being diagnosed. The recognition that Autism may present differently in women either due to either genetic reasons or differences in socialization that start in early childhood has also led to a smaller increase in diagnoses. So, Autism probably isn't an actual epidemic, but a hereditary disorder absolutely can see an increase in relative prevalence between generations.

Moving on, I'm not going to deny that antivaxxers are winning. That doesn't have any relevance to whether they're right or not, though. Harmful ideas can spread through a population despite having no basis in reality, because people are all vulnerable to emotional appeal overriding the reasonability of an argument (myself obviously, included). Add in the fact that it takes education, effort, and oppenness in order to properly evaluate arguments for any given position, and most people are absolute dogshit at forming beliefs that align with objective reality. I'm sure that I, personally, have some major blind spots that cause me to hold a few beliefs that are laughably wrong, but at least I know that. Most people who are wrong are very confidently wrong, which is where shit gets genuinely dangerous

You can win public opinion, only to have your triumphal parade be made up of Medieval skelebros leading you down main street on the pale horse of Revelation, your gleaming head crowned with victory laurels sewn from children's funeral shrouds. Here, enjoy your W.

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Bleach doesn't refer to a specific chemical. Its a descriptive term, for a wide variety of chemicals, based upon what they do. Namely, bleaching. Chlorine dioxide is a bleach. Because it bleaches. You just don't understand what words mean

Please start taking your lithium again. Your family is worried about you
They put chlorine dioxide in the water. You probably swallow that ToXiC bLeAcH when you drink tap water.

What keeps me up at night is the existence of severe autism. It is very abnormal and shouldn’t exist. Maybe mild autism would have been fixed with behavioral interventions back in the bad old days, but there is no way severe autism is fixed with punishment.
 
They put chlorine dioxide in the water. You probably swallow that ToXiC bLeAcH when you drink tap water.
Dude, literally all of us know that chlorine dioxide sees widespread use as a low-concentration disinfectant in tap water. Dosis sola facit venemum. The dose makes the poison. When you take 25mg-50mg of diphenhydramine, your eyes stop itching, your nose stops running, and you get a little sleepy. When you pop 28 little pink Bennies, you lose touch with reality, time stops making sense, you stand naked on your patio smoking an invisible cigarette and talking philosophy with the Hat Man, and then the spiders come. Just because something is safe and effective for a legitimate medical or public health purpose at one dose doesn't mean you can add more without changing the effect dramatically.

What keeps me up at night is the existence of severe autism. It is very abnormal and shouldn’t exist. Maybe mild autism would have been fixed with behavioral interventions back in the bad old days, but there is no way severe autism is fixed with punishment.

Punishment really isn't tremendously effective at improving outcomes where there's mental illness or developmental disability, so I highly doubt that treatment given in "the bad ol' days" actually worked well enough to be justified even for mild cases. It might have altered public behavior somewhat, which in itself might have improved quality of life, but would do absolutely nothing to fix issues with social reasoning and could easily make some symptom worse or cause further pathology. There's always a cost-benefit tradeoff with any treatment, and the costs of using what are called "aversive stimuli" (shocks, corporal punishment, withholding meals, etc.) to condition children with Autism not to engage in undesirable behaviors overwhelm or subvert the benefits. Attempting to treat meltdowns due to Autistic emotional dysregulation can cause significant trauma for a child, and significant developmental trauma is a well-known risk factor for worsening emotional dysregulation. If a child is being given aversive stimuli by trusted adults, that can fuck up any possibility of developing healthy attachment. Maybe a child treated that way might actually no longer meet objective criteria for Autism Spectrum Disorder as an adult, but if they end up meeting the criteria for Dependent, Avoidant, or Borderline Personality Disorder as an adult instead...well, congrats, the mongooses have eaten most of the cobras, and I'm sure all those tigers are going to see themselves out once they're done with the danger weasels. For severe Autism, they might have helped to make the individual more controllable undefined certain circumstances, but that only benefits the person's handlers. There's not even a pretense of improving quality of life in most cases.

Very severe Autism is a personally debilitating and socially harmful developmental disability, but there really isn't an obvious way to eradicate it. Certain policies might reduce its prevalence, like mandatory sterilization or even "euthanasia" for individuals with known genetic risk factors or milder ASD, but here we go back to the whole cost-benefit thing. The benefit there is very real: You prevent the immense individual suffering that comes with profound disability, avoid familial heartbreak from learning that a child will never lead a normal life, and reduce costs and infrastructure strain for society. The harm, on the other hand, is just as real, and is so dramatic that it outweighs even serious benefits. Strict Utilitarianism, where the abject misery of a few innocent people is an acceptable consequence to avoid occasional, relatively minor inconvenience for a large enough majority, is a prerequisite since most individuals who see this as an acceptable form of risk mitigation for themselves have already done it voluntarily. So is seeing either the state or the majority as the final arbiter on whether a person's life is worth living. Once you reject enough core individual rights, the concept of inherent, inalienable human rights becomes unsustainable. While the slippery slope is a fallacy, it's pretty clear that the reasoning used to justify mandatory negative eugenics of any kind can justify an inexhaustible list of atrocities. Actually "euthanizing" anyone involuntarily is both a cause of further decline and proof that a society is already a rotten edifice that could crumble down on anyone at anytime. The first option is unjustifiable, while even considering the second is evidence that a culture has already become hopelessly degenerate. Actually doing it won't even make things much worse once they're already far gone enough for the intentional state-sanctioned killing of innocent people to be on the table.

On top of that, eugenics don't actually work that well. While they would almost certainly reduce the prevalence of severe Autism, cases sometimes pop up where we don't find known genetic markers. In theory, we could find them. In practice, we're nowhere near that point when it comes to biotechnological progress. The only way to remove all cases of severe Autism would involve involuntarily killing children diagnosed. As I said before, murder is bad.

So...yeah. I get where you're coming from with this one, but unless and until we develop a mechanism for altering genes in live human cells that is safe, reliable, and effective enough to justify the risks involved, there's no cure that isn't worse than the illness. Searching for viable solutions where there are none can lead you down some weird, dangerous roads. If your trail ends in drinking bleach, you've got to walk that shit back and pick another path. Preferably not the genocide one, but you do you.
 
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This is an old post, but it is highly likely you have a vitamin deficiency. Whatever you decide to do, adding omega 3s, vitamin D and vitamin B will support your symptoms. Autistic people tend to be vitamin deficient, but these especially have been linked to increased OCD/anxiety-type behaviors. There’s inconclusive research right now about NAC and inositol as well.

CBT is the gold standard talk therapy, but you seem motivated, so maybe try going through a workbook on your own or watching some YouTube clips to get an idea of what it’s about.
For OCD, Exposure Response Prevention can be better than Cognitive Behavioral Therapy.
 
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