US US Politics General 2 - Discussion of President Trump and other politicians

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Should be a wild four years.

Helpful links for those who need them:

Current members of the House of Representatives
https://www.house.gov/representatives

Current members of the Senate
https://www.senate.gov/senators/

Current members of the US Supreme Court
https://www.supremecourt.gov/about/biographies.aspx

Members of the Trump Administration
https://www.whitehouse.gov/administration/

 

[sneedem&feedem]

1. ICE raids are fucked up considering that they are arresting American citizens even. They also are showing up, without identifying who they are, and essentially kidnapping people. That's pretty fucked up.

Why does it matter if American citizens are getting arrested in illegal immigration raids? People get falsely arrested all the time, the actual culprit gets caught and then they're set loose. Why is it suddenly such a problem for this specific instance?

I noticed you aren't complaining about citizens being deported. Probably cause it hasn't happened. If it had you'd be sperging all about it.

Also what ICE does isn't "essentially kidnapping." Since ICE enforces immigration law they have legal authority and by definition can't be considered kidnapping. If it were, every retard at the ACLU would be suing ICE for kidnapping.

This is all just mindlessly repeating rhetoric.

 

[a vending machine]

Trump needs to declare war Iran so i can post "fell for it again" memes at chuds a few thousand more times.

 

[Sensitive Young Man]

Can you faggots play grab ass in direct messages please? This thread is a fucking mess.

No because I like getting updoots from a logging him

 

[NEET gunray]

1. They should still have to identify themselves. How would you like it if a van full of guys pulled up to you, with masks on, and just grabbed you and threw you in the van? Plenty of the people they've arrested have been US citizens, too. They show up without even warrants like they are supposed to. I'm surprised no one has 2A them in self defense
4. Those factory jobs aren't coming back. It'd take decades and no one wants to work in them. Prices will go up on everything.
5. Giving contracts out to his buddies. His cabinet picks being completely unqualified.

Agree with you on 2 and 6 also I'm not super informed on what social welfare he's cutting. If it's free money so boomers can buy jetski's or EBT so crackmoms can save for their next hit I don't care I would be critical of it if he's cutting school lunches.
1. We are currently occupied you have to crack a few eggs to make an omelet. If I got detained temporarily I may be pissed but I'd go on with my day, on the topic of arrests there's really no difference between legal and illegal immigrants when they're engaging in the same criminal and low trust behaviors.
4. We already have seen certain companies begin reshoring American manufacturing like Honda. Plenty of people do want to work factory jobs not sure where you got that especially service workers who get lower pay and benefits when compared to manufacturing. A lot of the work isn't traditional Fordian assembly lines most of the labor would basically be acting as a foreman or engineer over a lot of robots in the case of auto manufacturing.
5. Fact of the world. Democrat presidents give benefits to their rich donors, Republicans do the same to their rich donors. Either way when Trumps cronyism and nationalism come into conflict he sides with the nationalism otherwise Trump wouldn't be protectionist and so anti-immigrant.

 

[Fishmalk Observer]

I already owned you once today with sources. You threw a tantrum about that one and I don't want you to have an aneurysm from getting overly upset.

Where was that, loser ?

 

[Hollywood Hulk Hogan]

Why does it matter if American citizens are getting arrested in illegal immigration raids? People get falsely arrested all the time, the actual culprit gets caught and then they're set loose. Why is it suddenly such a problem for this specific instance?

I noticed you aren't complaining about citizens being deported. Probably cause it hasn't happened. If it had you'd be sperging all about it.

Also what ICE does isn't "essentially kidnapping." Since ICE enforces immigration law they have legal authority and by definition can't be considered kidnapping. If it were, every retard at the ACLU would be suing ICE for kidnapping.

This is all just mindlessly repeating rhetoric.

ICE isn't identifying themselves. They're guys, wearing masks, going around throwing people into unmarked vans. Law enforcement arrests the wrong people all of the time but they have warrants and identify themselves. ICE doesn't do either. Imagine if Biden had started a group like ICE that went around in unmarked vans throwing people into the vans and kidnapping them. We are supposed to have rights in America and ICE isn't following that.

Where was that, loser ?

This post right here has you refusing to believe that Daddy did stuff you didn't like when given sources: https://kiwifarms.st/threads/us-politics-general-2.210076/post-21789023

Now that I've owned you twice today, please don't throw too big of a tantrum. I don't want your mom to ground you and for you to miss out on your tendies

 

[Catch The Rainbow]

BREAKING: US strikes on Iran’s nuclear facilities did not destroy the core components of the country’s nuclear program and likely only set it back by months, according to an early DIA assessment - Inside Paper

CNN | The impact to all three sites — Fordow, Natanz and Isfahan — was largely restricted to aboveground structures, which were severely damaged, the sources said. That includes the sites’ power infrastructure and some of the aboveground facilities used to turn uranium into metal for bomb-making.
CNN | US officials believe Iran also maintains secret nuclear facilities that were not targeted in the strike and remain operational, according to two sources familiar with the matter.



CNN | White House press secretary Karoline Leavitt told CNN in a statement: “This alleged assessment is flat-out wrong and was classified as ‘top secret’ but was still leaked to CNN by an anonymous, low-level loser in the intelligence community. The leaking of this alleged assessment is a clear attempt to demean President Trump, and discredit the brave fighter pilots who conducted a perfectly executed mission to obliterate Iran’s nuclear program. Everyone knows what happens when you drop fourteen 30,000 pound bombs perfectly on their targets: total obliteration.”

 

[Fishmalk Observer]

ICE isn't identifying themselves. They're guys, wearing masks, going around throwing people into unmarked vans. Law enforcement arrests the wrong people all of the time but they have warrants and identify themselves. ICE doesn't do either. Imagine if Biden had started a group like ICE that went around in unmarked vans throwing people into the vans and kidnapping them. We are supposed to have rights in America and ICE isn't following that.


This post right here has you refusing to believe that Daddy did stuff you didn't like when given sources: https://kiwifarms.st/threads/us-politics-general-2.210076/post-21789023

Now that I've owned you twice today, please don't throw too big of a tantrum. I don't want your mom to ground you and for you to miss out on your tendies

I don't believe you, that's just you lusting for elderly fat republican cock

 

[NEET gunray]

no bubba, I dont want the very important rights people died uncomfortable deaths in the mud for shunted to the side for political expediency

They burn trash on the sidewalk dude.

 

[StudMccool]

BREAKING: US strikes on Iran’s nuclear facilities did not destroy the core components of the country’s nuclear program and likely only set it back by months, according to an early DIA assessment - Inside Paper

CNN | The impact to all three sites — Fordow, Natanz and Isfahan — was largely restricted to aboveground structures, which were severely damaged, the sources said. That includes the sites’ power infrastructure and some of the aboveground facilities used to turn uranium into metal for bomb-making.
CNN | US officials believe Iran also maintains secret nuclear facilities that were not targeted in the strike and remain operational, according to two sources familiar with the matter.

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CNN | White House press secretary Karoline Leavitt told CNN in a statement: “This alleged assessment is flat-out wrong and was classified as ‘top secret’ but was still leaked to CNN by an anonymous, low-level loser in the intelligence community. The leaking of this alleged assessment is a clear attempt to demean President Trump, and discredit the brave fighter pilots who conducted a perfectly executed mission to obliterate Iran’s nuclear program. Everyone knows what happens when you drop fourteen 30,000 pound bombs perfectly on their targets: total obliteration.”

Im not going to be a shiter or anything about it cause even a blind squirel gets a nut every now and again but is anyone that I argued with out the bombing not being very effective willing to admit I MIGHT have been right?

 

[Sensitive Young Man]

You’re 4 inches inside HHH but Fishmalk is 4 inches inside you. Do you move forwards or backwards?

 

[StudMccool]

You’re 4 inches inside HHH but Fishmalk is 4 inches inside you. Do you move forwards or backwards?

I start spinning like a pinwheel

 

[Fishmalk Observer]

ICE isn't identifying themselves. They're guys, wearing masks, going around throwing people into unmarked vans. Law enforcement arrests the wrong people all of the time but they have warrants and identify themselves. ICE doesn't do either.

Illegals immigrant don't identify themselves either so fairs fair. The important part is that they get chucked back to their shitholes

 

[Hungry Wes Borland]

There is too much land in America not being used. Nature can take a hit for cheaper homes.

This is the policy suggestion of mass immigration advocates who wants literal billions more foreigners imported into the US because we have so much space.

Want cheaper homes? How about you have Trump follow through on his policies and ACTUALLY KICK OUT FOREIGNERS. not a few Venezuelans and college students that protested against Israel, an actual meaningful policy of mass deportation.

Trumptards are cucked beyond belief, it is truly insane.

 

[Party Hat Wurmple]

ICE isn't identifying themselves. They're guys, wearing masks, going around throwing people into unmarked vans. Law enforcement arrests the wrong people all of the time but they have warrants and identify themselves. ICE doesn't do either. Imagine if Biden had started a group like ICE that went around in unmarked vans throwing people into the vans and kidnapping them. We are supposed to have rights in America and ICE isn't following that.

Well, they wouldn't need to do this if there wasn't a coordinated effort by Democrats to identify, attack, and interfere with ICE law enforcement. That's half of the problem.

The other half is when you do a stealth raid in civilian clothes as a law enforcement officer, you accept what you're getting into. Civilian raids are dangerous and you can die during them. It's not as dangerous to the person they're arresting as it is to the officers doing it. This is what happened with Breonna Taylor.

 

[babyDunk]

1. ICE raids are fucked up considering that they are arresting American citizens even. They also are showing up, without identifying who they are, and essentially kidnapping people. That's pretty fucked up.
2. Tax cuts for the wealthy and corporations are going to explode our debt and deficit even more
3. Cutting spending on social welfare programs
4. Blanket tariffs are beyond retarded and he's seemingly obsessed with them
5. His crony-capitalism is also pretty lame.
6. Selling off national forest lands to companies so they can cut them down is fucked up

1.No they are not.Raids allow them to go to places where they have intel that illegal immigrants have been housed/work.Why would they identify themselves? Are you forgetting what happened these last few weeks? With the multiple doxes? or are we going to act like that is not happening.
2.Agreed, we should increase the taxes on the rich, but the neocons are whining about it and the Tech bros are lobbying the fuck out congress atm
3.Depends on what is cut.Is it being misused?
4.Probably agree with you to some extent on this one, i suspect he would have gotten the same results if he was not so aggressive with his tariffs. They are a good tool, dont think he is wielding it right.
5.Hmmmm. I agree he cow-tows to corporations a bit too much in my opinion
6. Yeah that's dumb

 

[Catch The Rainbow]

Want cheaper homes? How about you have Trump follow through on his policies and ACTUALLY KICK OUT FOREIGNERS. not a few Venezuelans and college students that protested against Israel, an actual meaningful policy of mass deportation.

Maybe we'd get somewhere if Massie and Rand didn't scream about the BBB refusing to vote for it because they're addicted to twitter likes

 

[Amelia Troonheart]

Bernie gets slapped around by Rogan about Bernie lying about Trump going after the media. I thought Bernie was smart than this in terms of handling criticism, now he just skirts the topic.

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So Trump loses his right to sue over disputes about the law just because he's a politician? I don't think so Jim.
Anybody can sue the media if they feel they have 1) lied 2) knowingly lied 3) out of malice.
"Getting things wrong" unintentionally is not the same thing as committing libel or slander and it is against the law whether you're media or not.
There's also laws against media and how they handle campaigns and such for a reason.
Cope and seethe Bernie you disingenuous fuck.

 

[Jace on ice]

I love Isreal.

 

[JayseeDenton]

1. ICE raids are fucked up considering that they are arresting American citizens even. They also are showing up, without identifying who they are, and essentially kidnapping people. That's pretty fucked up.
2. Tax cuts for the wealthy and corporations are going to explode our debt and deficit even more
3. Cutting spending on social welfare programs
4. Blanket tariffs are beyond retarded and he's seemingly obsessed with them
5. His crony-capitalism is also pretty lame.
6. Selling off national forest lands to companies so they can cut them down is fucked up


I miss first term TES - in comparison to the second term TES that is reaching "terrifyingly scary" levels of insanity, those are quaint and wholesome by comparison

Apparently the majority of Dems blocked AOC and the like's retarded impachement bid. I honestly don't understand impeachment at all, the last 4 years just made it more confusing than i thought possible.

What does this mean exactly? Is the more moderate left realizing their overactions help trump more than they hurt him? Or is there some other legal ramifications they have to consider about baseless impeachment?