Tabletop Roleplaying Games (D&D, Pathfinder, CoC, ETC.)

[Aib Ld]

I have a love-hate relationship with D&D. On dungeon crawl campaigns, its fun. On anything else...

Gets worse when your group played a couple of other systems, and one DM still goes back to DnD and buzzsaw all the rules to make a new setting when we just finished the perfect system for it weeks ago by another DM we rotate from when we finish a campaign.
We finished a game of Delta Green, and the other DM made us play DnD but with a Delta Green-ish setting. Strong whiplash.
I also can't tell if DnD GM is jealous or anything because he also uses some ideas from the other DM's adventures, despite said ideas would not work in DnD.

 

[Imperial Citizen]

Dice Scum is reviewing Daggerheart to see if using cards for abilities, tactical wheelchair combat, and several pages dedicated for how to play disabled characters can kill D&D!

 

[p1138]

Dice Scum is reviewing Daggerheart to see if using cards for abilities, tactical wheelchair combat, and several pages dedicated for how to play disabled characters can kill D&D!

If it wasn't crap to begin with, it will be after Crawford starts getting his influence on shit there.

 

[Ghostse]

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You knew the game was going to be shit when even Crystal Dynamics backed off because you were making the game too woke. These are the same faggots who made Lara Croft look like a tranny and retcon every supporting male character gay. Yes. Evil hat productions social media accounts outright admits Crystal Dynamics rejected how political they were making the Tomb Raider TTRPG.

Jesus christ I fucking hate modern clown world so much.

My thought/hope was Trans Croft tanked so badly the Japs at Sony stepped in and explictly told them to get back to Indiana-Jones-With-Tits-And-Guns-And-Hotpants and to stop with the Woketardness because they were going broke. Hence their gay paraplegic anti-colonial game was no longer on brand.

But its also just as likely even the people approved the cartroon just found their writing too obnoxious.

I have a love-hate relationship with D&D. On dungeon crawl campaigns, its fun. On anything else...

Depends on the "anything else" D&D has the ability to bolt on handle a lot of other action and make it fun-to-not-awfule.
What it doesn't do well, at all, is stealth action. You cannot run Metal Gear Solid D&D without completely remaking the system; though TBCF not many turn-basedd games could do it either, you'd have to do something like borrow action ecoonomy from ACIDif you didn't want to just go full narrative and just rolling on outcomes. and if you went full narrative, you could just use D&D character sheets.

 

[Tactical Wizard]

Any game can be called fun if you have impaired judgement via intoxication and play with friends. Thirsty Swords Lesbians can be made fun in the same way, especially given there is at least one hypergay camp setting and a sky pirates one that wasn't too bad. Drunken friends can definitely have fun with that in mind.

So can Sigmata if you take it as a shitpost. Hell, I played in two fucking games of Sigmata that took it as a shitpost. I had fun playing the demented conspiracy spewing cowboy robot that could turn people into rotting bones, but I'd still not rate that book good.

I think it's a genuine cop-out to use that excuse, since it basically is admitting you bought a mediocre artbook that anyone with a few hours of experience in GIMP could shit out assets for. The only reason I'm less harsh with it now (besides seeing its competing options...) is because it at the very least bothers to things like make dungeons.

The example dungeon was solid and pretty well designed with little details here and there. It's easily the best aspect of the book and its successors. I'd still not personally rate it a good book and consider it a waste of pages as a whole versus B/X it and most OSR crap takes inspiration from.

As someone who's actually run Mork Borg a few times? It's fucking hilarious. What you're essentially playing are the klokateers from metalocalypse. You die in droves but fuck it, rolling up a new character takes less than a minute. I saved my players the time and had a bunch of randomly generated characters face down in the middle of the table and when they lost a character? They just flipped over the top one and I got them back in the action as soon as it made sense. The rules are perfunctory but it's the mouse-trap of RPGs. If you try and make it any simpler? It breaks.

The flip side is that this makes it really easy to design for.

 

[Glory To Arztotska]

What you're essentially playing are the klokateers from metalocalypse.

Well shit I'm beyond fucking sold

 

[Tri-Tachyon'sClown]

The Tomb Raider RPG is dead in the water. It was a foolish idea from the onset. This is not a deep lore franchise with space for donut steels, it is Lara Croft's story and little else. Not to mention how the cover alone was a DEI red flag.
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Dude I saw that cover image and I immediately knew it was Evil Hat. Hi-fucking-larious.

First, its very rarely someoen competent and intelligence. 5 of 6 times, its them being a chaotic neutral klepto retard who everyone has to tard wrangle or some sort of annoying gimmick.

Reminds me of one of my older characters but not "Chaotic Stupid" as your example. Ended up "befriending" one the BBEG's plans (summoning some ancient entity or something) and taking him for a joyride around the country, my party and the BBEG were third partied which resulted in violent arguing, the dragon though it was childish and beneath him so I just rolled a "wanna get outta here?". I had to make a new character because having what amounts to two vastly games at once is taxing but at least whenever I heard/saw my old character he was doing something interesting. Usually to the sounds of cities burning. Wasn't much of a derailment since the BBEG escaped and went to go do his other plans and it was actually amusing for everyone at the table, which is what's most important imo.

Dice Scum is reviewing Daggerheart to see if using cards for abilities, tactical wheelchair combat, and several pages dedicated for how to play disabled characters can kill D&D!

I think your podcasts are neat and I'm glad they exist.

 

[Adamska]

Dice Scum is reviewing Daggerheart to see if using cards for abilities, tactical wheelchair combat, and several pages dedicated for how to play disabled characters can kill D&D!

I'm already forgetting this book since it has nothing to note for it. It's that soulless. It just exists, I can't even really find emotion for it.

The thing I most remember is how fucking egregious the Dark Souls rip-off is, and may have taken the map too.

It has nothing at all to drive interest in, since it just rips and attaches stuff from Paizo, Wizards, and so on as needed. And then spams cards in a way that's absolutely unhelpful.

Wallpaper paste of a product.

 

[Rend Me Asunder]

Maybe it’s the autism but I legitimately cannot fucking read the Mork Borg rulebook. Just completely incomprehensible. Looks cool though.

 

[Tri-Tachyon'sClown]

Maybe it’s the autism but I legitimately cannot fucking read the Mork Borg rulebook. Just completely incomprehensible. Looks cool though.

Someone also had a similar issue to you, here's a "bare bones" addition I found. Also didn't they delete their twatter account because "muh nazisms" or some shit? They're Swedes so I expect them to be incredibly annoying but I hear the game itself is interesting in a good way. As in "giving life to your own skeleton and have it crawl out of your own body" sort of interesting.

 

[Brain Problems]

Someone also had a similar issue to you, here's a "bare bones" addition I found. Also didn't they delete their twatter account because "muh nazisms" or some shit? They're Swedes so I expect them to be incredibly annoying but I hear the game itself is interesting in a good way. As in "giving life to your own skeleton and have it crawl out of your own body" sort of interesting.

I don't have it in front of me but there's some absolutely cucked and embarrassing trigger warning or threat about not being mean to troons or women or something along those lines in the beginning or end of the book. I have a copy because I dig the aesthetic and it seemed unique to me at the time.

 

[Allied-Mastercomputer]

I don't have it in front of me but there's some absolutely cucked and embarrassing trigger warning or threat about not being mean to troons or women or something along those lines in the beginning or end of the book. I have a copy because I dig the aesthetic and it seemed unique to me at the time.

They have the Reddit-tier trigger warning on their website. I don’t remember seeing it in the book, though. It might be at the end. Easy stuff to ignore imo.

MB is fun and all but the base edition is as bare bones as it gets. It gets more fun when you add in any supplemental material made by weirdos on the Internet. Like the fishing expansion, the miniature wargame expansion, the blood bowl expansion, the WW1 expansion. There’s even a card game expansion. All of this can be found for free for the most part. If you don’t like the setting, there’s a bunch of setting conversions to choose from. (Traditional fantasy, weird corporate hellscape, western, cyberpunk, deserted island, etc.)

Being such a simple OSR hack, it’s not suited for long campaigns as the rules fall apart after a certain level. At that point, the Miseries system should take over and end your campaign anyway. It’s also a good entry-level candidate for solo roleplaying given how simple it is.

 

[The Ugly One]

Castles and Crusades is a big one. Gets raves online but no one will play it.

Castles & Crusades is just D&D. The differences between D&D flavors (except 4e) are pretty marginal, so it's hard to come up with a compelling reason to switch. I made up reasons to switch to ACKS, but it was really because I was getting tired of WotC finding more and more ways to insert homosexual themes into the official content.

 

[Ghostse]

Castles & Crusades is just D&D. The differences between D&D flavors (except 4e) are pretty marginal, so it's hard to come up with a compelling reason to switch. I made up reasons to switch to ACKS, but it was really because I was getting tired of WotC finding more and more ways to insert homosexual themes into the official content.

C&C is just streamlined 3.5. Its the final game Gygax worked on and it shows, but it also did things different just to do them different (and so WOTC couldn't sue them). They did some retarded shit like locking the guts of the system, the SEIGE engine, in an entirely separate book so I can't really comment on the full workings of the system and fine tuning, but its basically a level-scaling challenge mechanism.

Course if I wanted a 3.5 clone.... ok look I know the publisher are fags and the players are obnoxious grogs & rules laywers, but if I wanted to run 3.5 without running 3.5 I'd go pathfinder. If I didn't want the taint of rank homosexuality and troonism on my 3.5 clone, I'd go for Basic Fantasy.

 

[Adamska]

It gets more fun when you add in any supplemental material made by weirdos on the Internet.

So the Bethesda studios approach where you have to have the fans fix the thing for you. Again, I find that more damning of the product than as an advertising point personally. It tells me that even people who like it and try to justify it know it doesn't hold up without any tweaking.

Again, how is this different from and better than PbtA, which requires you to fix the system itself unless you get the rare book that was smart enough to do that for you, like RVMA? How does this make it better than and different from Cha'alt, which has the exact same energy and also only put its best in dungeons? Is it just because they did the color gradient pics on black fuck you printer paper?

I might have found new lows in this industry and may hate Vince Baker more, but I really don't get why a slapdash Latvian product is getting such a pass for doing filter images and scribbles that ain't much different than Venger's, despite him also getting the piss taken out of him.

 

[Ghostse]

I might have found new lows in this industry and may hate Vince Baker more, but I really don't get why a slapdash Latvian product is getting such a pass for doing filter images and scribbles that ain't much different than Venger's, despite him also getting the piss taken out of him.

Mork borg is less coomery thant Chaalt, and is heavy metal album art through out. That's why they get a pass.

Basically instead of trying do runes and jacking off to slime, if Darrick had just gone full 70's metal art on his "gonzo" product, he could also be getting his low-effort product sucked off.

 

[Tri-Tachyon'sClown]

I don't have it in front of me but there's some absolutely cucked and embarrassing trigger warning or threat about not being mean to troons or women or something along those lines in the beginning or end of the book. I have a copy because I dig the aesthetic and it seemed unique to me at the time.

They have the Reddit-tier trigger warning on their website.

Yeah sounds about right, but I skimmed the website and I don't see this trigger warning. One of my more "chudish" friends likes it so it must be good enough that you can ignore the faggotry. I've seen a few bits of the community and it seems pozzed as fuck, which is unsurprising for most TTRPG related things sadly.

It gets more fun when you add in any supplemental material made by weirdos on the Internet. Like the fishing expansion, the miniature wargame expansion, the blood bowl expansion, the WW1 expansion. There’s even a card game expansion. All of this can be found for free for the most part. If you don’t like the setting, there’s a bunch of setting conversions to choose from.

Homebrew stuff? Does MB not have anything so fans have to do most of the heavy lifting or were these "commissioned" by the MB guys through contests or whatever? Because it sounds like both these questions have the same answer. Or is it just a system to use for your games rather than an actual game?

Chaalt

I remember looking into that game after reading a review on "beyondfomalhaut" and uh...easy to tell what the author likes. Especially when the author wants you to know what he likes. It is Venger Satanis after all. I remember reading that there's a place straight up called "Gamma Incel Cantina" and lol'd my ass off.

 

[p1138]

Yeah sounds about right, but I skimmed the website and I don't see this trigger warning.

I haven't seen a trigger warning on the site, but it does have virtue signaling.

Homebrew stuff? Does MB not have anything so fans have to do most of the heavy lifting or were these "commissioned" by the MB guys through contests or whatever? Because it sounds like both these questions have the same answer. Or is it just a system to use for your games rather than an actual game?

Yes, they heavily rely on their third party license https://morkborg.com/license/ You'll note that if you scroll through the content on their website, it all has that morkborg approved content logo from their cult section in the screen grab above. That cult section is basically the header for the content they promote below it.

 

[Judge Dredd]

Castles & Crusades is just D&D.

I had heard it was the middle ground between 5e and 3e. I'd also heard it described as 3e without the bullshit.

There's some great stuff in there, like "equipment wastage" which is rules for gear wearing down or breaking, but I can't get people to switch. I think part of it is the strict tolkien races and classes only. A lot of the more exotic stuff is missing.

Being such a simple OSR hack, it’s not suited for long campaigns as the rules fall apart after a certain level. At that point, the Miseries system should take over and end your campaign anyway. It’s also a good entry-level candidate for solo roleplaying given how simple it is.

This is why I never understood the appeal of Mork Borg. And Mothership too while we're at it. It seems they're barely games, and more an excuse to sell a book of random bullshit with a loose theme.

Though there were a lot of OSR games that were very "flavour of the month" then vanished. There was one I forget the name of. Described as the Dark Souls of TTRPGs. Now I can't find it as there's an actual Dark Souls TTRPG. It was supposedly great though, very grim dark in it's tone and rules.

 

[Ghostse]

Though there were a lot of OSR games that were very "flavour of the month" then vanished. There was one I forget the name of. Described as the Dark Souls of TTRPGs. Now I can't find it as there's an actual Dark Souls TTRPG. It was supposedly great though, very grim dark in it's tone and rules.

That sounds like the Whitehack/Blackhack