JFG / Jean-Francois Gariepy / jfgariepyneuro / The French Pervert / The Public Space - Warski's Abusive Ex-BF, Racist Streamer, Failed Academic, Potato Masher, Kristi Winter's BFF, Kero Defender

[A Sentient Cloud]

I like his "woodpile" on his stream background and the camera looking at the living room. That is telling.

Also telling: the door to the streaming room has a keyed lock and it appears to have been kicked/smashed open from the outside.

 

[lambdadan]

I like his "woodpile" on his stream background and the camera looking at the living room. That is telling.

The cameras may have also been for being able to see if she was trying to flee (with the children too possibly). That is a touchy subject with him (the children). I still remember when Rocky asked him a pretty softball question if the children were with them in the car for this supposed "dropping her off" and he got very emotional, saying he's not going to reveal the location of his children at any time. Keep in mind that this would've been more than a year and a half since the event, he's been more open about the existence of the children and he's claimed he's very far away now in Alberta. It's not like this information alone should warrant the reaction he gave. Also, if these things come out about how he didn't really respect her "liberty" and was actually very controlling it doesn't look great for his version of events.. Also given how online he was (and likely spent all day at that computer), it points to controlling behaviour, he has to see her and the children at all times.. People were speculating at the time if he was looking at something like a baby monitor on streams (we didn't know for sure), but in JF's own words he said he had "a high security home" - so this is not just cameras at the doors but also in the rooms too thanks to this video.

And no wonder he got annoyed about comments from the neighbours about how he would insist on driving and collecting Elora just a block away. When you start to put things together it starts to fit, like when Elora says "and you always follow me everywhere" - so is she really talking about NWG or is this all fitting more with JF? The infamous NWG clip, I think you have to watch it several times, and pause and look for little details, like when she says about "you fucking tried to kill me for three years, ok?" JF does a little smile, it's not a nervous smile, he seems to be revelling her suffering in this (brief) moment. And even if she was having some kind of mental health episode, why would you be having this kind of reaction? I think the problem with the NWG clip is that when it was doing the rounds, people put titles like "Mama JF schizo" and they played silly music over it, so when you combine it with things like NWG's genuine look of bewilderment, JF muting her and telling us what she thinks, a lot of people are actually going to buy what he's selling. By the way, I think that JF has marked their "anniversary" as the date in August (2018?) where she briefly appeared in his chair on camera while he was streaming with Spencer. But I think they may have been seeing each other before this date, and JF likely felt that he is "forced" to talk about it now and try to do damage control. And I think the reason for the secrecy prior was not out of concern for her, but of how it looks for him. People are going to say he's at it again with another mentally slow woman and so on.

Another thing I thought was interesting was how the housewives were saying their timeline has Elora gone about a month or so before the new internet girlfriend came to see him. And this mention of positive pregnancy tests, so he was knocking her up in this mess of a place (that had more junk in it than we see because remember JF got a truck load of junk removed before he sold it). I have to wonder about the mental state of the new girlfriend. Anyway, I think even in JF's own version of the story there was an X post talking about the "major crimes unit" asking him "aren't you moving a little fast with your new girlfriend?" - so maybe the housewives info is solid here. And speculation on my part, is that the reason why JF was locking the door, it might be he didn't want Elora to see this internet woman on screen. There is a roll of tissue on his desk too, so maybe they were having cyber sex with poor Elora in the the next room with the children (given the toys). As bad as that is, I'd prefer that than any of the sick shit he's said before about how you can masturbate on a child and get them used to sex. Either way, something was definitely happening in that room. JF will be going to his usual, oh she suffered psychosis, he had to lock the door and put up a camera. I won't be buying it.

And all he can do is just say Elora was crazy , but he does that with all his critics, calls them "delusional", "crazy women" and so on. So as time goes on, you have to believe that all the women (the 5 divorces, his side chick at Duke, the housewives, etc) they're all just not reliable because they're crazy. And the new girlfriend is perfect in every way, until maybe she changes her tune of praise, then he will start to call her crazy too I suspect. Given how JF himself is not even a reliable narrator of his own life, (does anybody really believe a "bitcoin millionaire" lives like the video suggest?). It seems like projection on his part. Especially when he opened up about how he was on anti-anxiety medication and just decided to go cold turkey (so he could enjoy his cheeses more!). Not making a judgement about him, but JF since you're reading this, you should probably talk to a doctor before doing something drastic like this. From what people have told me the best way to get off that kind of medication is to ween off. It's pretty irresponsible if you have two children in your care and you do these kind of experiments on your brain. And I'm sure there are people who think this is great, let him spiral, but he's continuing to bring new children into this world in his current state and we are beyond this being about some internet drama or disagreement over politics. It's affecting other people, Elora is missing, likely dead, and innocent children don't have their mother and have a guy like JF for a father and also likely placing further burdens on the Canadian tax payer too (if you actually believe his story of evading 6 police cars, interacting with 10s of police, driving all over Canada). I mean, what are these children going to be like when they grow up? What lessons are you teaching them JF?

 

[MrSlongDong]

I previously asked whether JF was streaming on the 3 days that Elora went missing (17, 18, 19 June) and it turned out, he wasn't which is very suspicious (allegedly he was dealing with the break-up and cleaning the house).

The real housewives of Alberta had another stream on Elora's disappearance and had some great new info. They were provided a video of the PEI house shortly after JF fled, and it is very kino.

It is more horrifying than Kino.

I think it would useful to update the timeline which was provided in this post (Kiwisee post on Jul 6, 2024): https://kiwifarms.net/threads/jfg-j...-pervert-the-public-space.38787/post-18767849

May 2023: Elora supposedly announces a desire to live off the grid

June 16th 2023: JF does his last stream prior to Mama JF disappearing

June 17th, 2023: Elora is (allegedly) dropped off at a gas station with a phone and a school bag, in an area close to the PEI-New Brunswick bridge.

June 19th 2023: She is allegedly last seen on Albert Street in Moncton, New Brunswick according to the RCMP. She was last seen wearing a brown faux leather jacket, black pants and had a school bag with her. This is also the last day that Mama JF contacted JF, claiming she’s ditching the current phone and getting a new one. Therefore, she’ll be unreachable.

June 20th, 2023: Jean returns to streaming and immediately starts talking shit about Mama JF and women in general.

It would be especially useful to add to this when JF left the house and when the above video was taken. What struck me is that JF said on June 20, 2023 that he had taken the 3 days off to completely clean the house and take back control of his life. This clearly did not happen when you look at the state of the house in the video so what was he doing during those 3 days?

That's why it would be useful to know when exactly the video was taken (and who gained access to the house).

Some notes on the video itself, aside from the mess, it shows obvious signs of violence: as someone pointed out, the broken door looks like it has been locked then kicked open from the outside going in into the streaming room. This could have been a result of Elora locking herself in and JF kicking the door opened. I doubt a woman like Elora would know or be able to execute this kind of move. I have seen at clip from one of JF stream where Elora had taken over the stream after she had "locked JF in the basement" although they seem to be in a good mood about it at the time, JF strikes me as the kind of guy who is good at hiding his emotions


Based on this and the timeline from before, I actually think he killed her and the police completely fucked up the investigation. I know there are sightings of her on the 17th near the bridge were she was dropped off and then on the 19th in Moncton but I think those are unreliable evidence in the absence of actual CCTV footage (of which apparently so far there are none). Another interesting thing I saw on the thread is her last stream appearance - this was posted in the thread by Getfuckingjustice on Nov 23, 2024:

https://kiwifarms.st/threads/jfg-je...-pervert-the-public-space.38787/post-19920947

According to this poster, Elora was last seen on stream on the 28th April, 1 hour 3 minutes in (https://odysee.com/@JFGTonight:0/jfgt833:5) ]
I have extracted the clip of Elora's last appearance on a stream.

YouTube link:

Now what would be useful - in order to close in on a precise timeline would be to have information from third parties on when they saw her last. I undertand she was holding a job at a burger joint near their house at the time (she worked at Backwoods Breakaway, aka Backwoods Burger, located at 424 Main St, O'Leary, PE C0B 1V0, Canada). She would have had co-workers there who may have seen her last before she went missing. Getfuckingjustice seemed to think she was killed in May, shortly after her last stream appaerance but these are just conjectures based on what JF said on streams (i.e., that she was being punished for being a domestic terrorist). Another source of information could come from the grocery store near their house or the local church (if they attended it). They is a church literally 2 minutes from their house. When did these people last see her? The problem is that now that it has been 2 years, it will be increasingly difficult for people to remember precisely when and if they last saw. I think her job would be the best place to check. Do we know if and when she quit?

 

[MrSlongDong]

There is a roll of tissue on his desk too, so maybe they were having cyber sex with poor Elora in the the next room with the children

Just a correction here, it's not a roll of tissue. It's something you use to clean your clothes.

Not surprising that he would need to brush up before his appearance on stream given the state of the house. This is actually another thing that to me, would point out to the possibility of fool play being involved. I suspect that Elora was genuinely messy and that was incompatible with JF's idea of an orderly home. This and maybe the fact the she would have tried to bring the children on the stream or that she wanted to raise to kids in a way he disaproved off could have been the things that triggered him into killing her (allegedly, potentially, hypothetically).

 

[lambdadan]

Just a correction here, it's not a roll of tissue

I'm not saying for sure he was jerking off in there, but this is what I'm referring to regarding the tissue, there are sauces in the shelf above his clothes in the same room, so he was likely also eating there on that desk and the tissue could be for wiping his mouth and not his dick. But something provoked an emotional response in Elora to damage that door. That has to be something like sexual jealousy or instinct trying to protect her child that makes a woman want to do that. I'm open to other explanations but given the information about how he was moving so fast with the new woman I think that could be the reason. It certainly doesn't fit with JF's insistence that things were all good when she left anyway. All of his remarks like in the Dick Masterson interview where he says out of the blue he was told not to hit Elora and how he would never hit her, you have to consider this new information in the video now.


Here are the sauces, above his clothes. So not even in his fridge like the audio of his bragging about arranging things suggest.


The parrot from Elora's travel video, beside the children's toys in the cot, it hit me right in the feels.

 

[MrSlongDong]

this is what I'm referring to regarding the tissue

I stand corrected.

something provoked an emotional response in Elora to damage that door.

I'm more inclined to think it was JF who broke that door. Would make sense if the streaming room was "his" space. As I have said in my previous post, there was a stream where Elora sat in the streaming chair alone and said she had "locked JF in the basement" and then he shows up a minute later (couldn't find it but it's in the thread somewhere) - possible this happened again and he lost it.

Just to add this quote from Kiwisee (Nov 23, 2024). Another factor in these sort of cases is life insurance taken on the missing person. A possible thing to check

September 2nd, 2023: Jean is bragging about how much money he has now that Elora is gone, on this stream: https://odysee.com/@JFGTonight:0/jfgt934:c

given the information about how he was moving so fast with the new woman I think that could be the reason.

What is the exact new relationship timeline? Did he start talking to the new woman after or before the alleged June 17, 2023 drop off?

This is relevant because if he started talking to the new woman, say, towards the end of May then it would lend credibility to the theory that he may have killed Elora in May and that the June events are just red herrings.

As despicable as JF can be, I think it's unlikely he would start a new relationship before getting rid of Elora (one way or another). He may however, have started talking to someone prior to doing anything. That is what happened in the Chris Watts case but I think Chris Watts and JF are very different people. Here, we are dealing with somebody who really sees woman as commodities so it's different from Chris Watts. Watts was actually feeling something for his mistress while JF is targeting mentally challenged women to impregnate so I don't think he would have acted on impulse. I think he made a decision (that Elora wasn't working), then acted (got rid of Elora), then moved on to actually dating the other woman even if he may have started talking to that new woman before acting / getting rid of Elora.

I got the original video from the housewife of Alberta channel on Youtube and the text at the beginning claims that this was filmed "after he dropped Elora off in June and after the trash collectors came and picked up the rubbish he had left in front of the house" (for so long that the neighbors complained).

This is important because JF claimed that he had taken the 3 days off between 17 July and 20 July 2023 (when he didn't stream) because he wanted to clean the house. If he didn't clean the house, then what was he doing during those 3 days? It's possible the house got dirty again in the 4 months after he allegedly cleaned it and when the video above was taken. Maybe watching the video again, we could try and see if we can spot things that belong to Elora (other than the parrot) which would indicate he never really cleaned the house. In turn that could indicate that he was doing something else entirely at the time (removing evidence, etc)

In these cases, the most important thing is to establish a trail of when the victim was last seen rather than scrutinize and confront the suspect who is going to be watching himself. We know that Elora was last seen on stream on 28 April 2023 and was never seen again on stream after that.

Any witness that would have seen her between 28 April 2023 and 17 June 2023 would be a big help in creating a timeline (and I mean actually seen her and talked to her not just some vague sighting of her)?

 

[A Sentient Cloud]

And this mention of positive pregnancy tests

I’d like to know a lot more context about this claim. Pregnancy tests are not reliably readable after 30 minutes. Having pregnancy tests at all in his trash post-Elora would be telling in and of itself.

I’d also like to get a definitive answer as to whether or not they actually owned that home or were renting. The video has the vibe of a landlord/contractor documenting the damage for insurance.

 

[MrSlongDong]

I propose another timeline. I have autistically downloaded all of his original videos from the shitty blockchain (its basically torrents) and ran them through whisper for transcriptions. I transcribed all of the videos from march until mid june on his first stream back where he announces she has left and then searched for all references to her. He basically stops talking about her after the 10th May when someone asks a question about her and he says she is still being punished, apart from on the 8th June where he tells a really old story about them (irrelevant and old). He goes from talking either directly to her or about her in fairly present tense almost every stream to not at all after the 10th May where he restates she is still being punished.

Can you share the transcripts if you still have them? I agree with your interpretation of the timeline

2nd April, 32 mins 30 in she does the act of terrorism in his room, last time shes seen although you dont see her:
https://odysee.com/@JFGTonight:0/jfgt836:0
3rd April, 1 min in he says he is punishing her for her terrorism and swiftly moves on and starts singing like an autist: https://odysee.com/@JFGTonight:0/jfgt837:d

10th, 57 mins in says he isnt streaming tomorrow as hes doing interview with richard spencer (i cant find this) and also talks about demolishing a wall or some shit in preparation for a heat pump (did that get installed? or was this him hiding something in a wall?):
https://odysee.com/@JFGTonight:0/jfgt843:5

Typos there I checked your video links - it should read:

28 April - last physical appearance of Elora
2nd May - act of "terrorism" in his room
3rd May - punishing her
10th May - not streaming tomorrow

So last appearance on stream is 28th of April 2023 and the other events you described are at the beginning of May. After that, she is never heard of again

 

[lambdadan]

"locked JF in the basement"

This was an April fools prank that I wouldn't read too much into, there is no basement and you can see he put her up to this and she's looking off camera to him. Lock her in with his computer? Watch the Christmas streams (where they spend longer time together on camera), like where she suggests something pretty innocent, like wanting to look up the lady on those small red cardboard boxes of raisins on his computer and he has a reaction to that, he doesn't want her near it, he gets uncomfortable. Your instincts are correct here though, it's not that surprising that someone like him would be using locks as part of his control but the devil is in the details. Leave her in a room with his computer behind a locked door? Nah, not even saying she could log in to it and do stuff, but he has said before she destroyed laptops by "playing with water" (like a child) multiple times. People will read into that, like maybe he's just saying it to destroy evidence or one of them did it more maliciously, but regardless, if what he said is true then he wouldn't want to lock a door and confine her in that room where she could do some kind of retaliatory or accidental damage to his computer/monitors. These are things he took with him in this "4 hours" where he left in a hurry, so it's important to him.

Any witness that would have seen her between 28 April 2023 and 17 June 2023

This is one of the reasons why it took so damn long for the alarm to be raised in the first place (4 months before someone finally reports her missing on his timeline, worse if it happened earlier). All of the things that would cause alarm in a much shorter period of time, like not suddenly not showing up at work or a friend not hearing from her were taken away (because she wasn't working at the burger place anymore before she went missing). He prides himself having "extracted her from her misery". Which is also being controlling over who she could interact with. Even things like the birth of the child, I think she had some kind of assistance from a woman with the first, and it was a home birth. But the second I think it was entirely JF. So with time, Elora and those children are interacting with less and less people. You see the massive amounts of Pepsi, like slabs of it stacked and even in a cupboard. This is not a guy who likes to leave the house. The abnormal situation in the house is what gave him such a head start. Like what is "abnormal" or cause for picking up the phone in this situation where he himself doesn't bother to go out, except to go on a monthly shopping trip. Another thing is that in the stream he did with the housewives there were some "jokes" about letting them out for bi-monthly shopping trips, so was that a JF fan in their chat?

Your instincts are also right to wonder if he has been playing with time. But that 3 day period in June was most likely it. Could it be earlier, it's possible, but take a look at the days he skipped from April to June, it's easy to spot because he was normally streaming every day at this time. It's always a day of a break. So if he murdered her in that timeframe, you may be able to pin point the day he killed her based on streams either side of the day in question. Based on my analysis I don't think so, because there's a lot of things for him to do, he needs to destroy evidence and also perhaps the children need to be taken out of the home for a while and all of that (and he's very protective of them and scared of losing them, so it would have to be a close relative). If there was another 3 day gap in late April or May I'd think okay, this would be another contender. Look at what he did when he thought CPS was after him, he made a long drive up to Quebec to his mothers in Saint Sophie (presumably that's roughly where she was given JF grew up there). So what I'd recommend doing is actually using rough time estimates (for a given theory) and seeing if it's even possible for him to do something like all of this and be back in time for a stream the next day 7pm ET, while being a "creature of the night" that isn't an early riser. Sure he could stay up all day or just get the absolute minimum but wouldn't he look like shit on stream? Especially at 39, being fat, sedentary and having a crappy diet. I think it's most likely whatever he did was done in a kind of sprint for say 2 days, 3rd day he might do some things but ultimately he decides to skip streaming that day and rest up so he looks okay for the following evening (really giving him nearly 4 days if you think about it).

I had such a thought that maybe he did kill her in May and I even entertained the idea of it being later, he takes another 3 day "vacation" close to the start of July too. It is worth watching those and see for yourself if anything really stands out. It is more likely is that this wasn't premeditated on his part, it's more like a domestic violence situation that spiralled over years to the point where you get more serious injuries and eventually a death. I think if he planned it to end with her death, if it was the case, he may have set up things more, like putting the idea of a "trip" in her mind and getting her talking about it on camera in the days or weeks prior so it seems more plausible and less sudden. My suspicion is those single days in the lead up to the 3 days may have been incidents that were escalating to the point where it cost Elora her life. Also it should go without saying that people should be downloading these videos (not just screencapturing bits), because we may see one day that his channel is suddenly gone when police close in (if you think it happened closer to late April or in May you'd want to have these saved for sure).. On Odysee it's easy enough, there is an icon with ... that you can click and hit download. With Rumble you can use something like Video Download Helper browser extension to just download his streams. (not even saying you need to watch all of them, it's just in case he decides to go nuclear on his channels, he has done it before).

 

[Stupid Sexy Flanders]

Your instincts are also right to wonder if he has been playing with time. But that 3 day period in June was most likely it. Could it be earlier, it's possible, but take a look at the days he skipped from April to June, it's easy to spot because he was normally streaming every day at this time. It's always a day of a break.

The thing is that it's not impossible for him to have murdered her at an earlier date and just stashed away the body somewhere in a trunk or similar and thought that he'd take care of it later, especially if it wasn't planned. He might've kept Elora's phone alive until people started asking questions where she was or why she wouldn't answer her phone. A remodelling like he did (replacing dry walls) - especially in a house that's not exactly tidy to begin with - likely doesn't happen over night.

But then again, the easiest way would be to talk to her work place. I might've missed it, but did she quit or did she suddenly stop coming in? If JF is strapped for cash enough to allow her to work, I'm not sure he'd let her quit for no reason.

 

[lambdadan]

for him to have murdered her at an earlier date and just stashed away the body somewhere in a trunk or similar and thought that he'd take care of it later

I understand where you're coming from, there are plenty of people who kill who do things like this, where they might store the body for a while or move it around. Even the DC sniper comes to mind where he was just shooting random people in public from a hole in the back of his car, and police were on alert and more resources were allocated because he'd done it multiple times. There was one time where a policeman did call over to see him, because it was a strange hour and he was parked in an empty parking lot and he very confidently told the officer that he'd taken a wrong turn and was tired and pulled over to sleep and the officer believed him and let him go. This is with a rifle in his car having been used to kill an innocent person just hours prior. Brass balls. JF is the academic type, PhD, intelligent but also socially retarded and self described autist type. He has serious problems actually reading people. To a guy like him it's risky as fuck to do something like put a body in his car and drive. Not saying he couldn't have worked up the courage to actually do it but you add in the other aspects, his controlling behaviour with her when she was alive, when he goes on a drive in his shitbox, lots of things outside of his control. What if his car breaks down, if someone sees him, there's a police stop, or friendly member of the public stops because they see his car stopped, etc all of these will be going through a mind like his, to the point overthinking it. Whereas someone more "normie", yeah they might just say fuck it, put the body in the car and drive. For him, he would prefer to lean on his strengths, use his biology background to try to destroy or discreetly get rid of parts of her without him ever having to take the risk of leaving his home with them. I said in earlier but it's worth repeating, he was trying to convince us she was at Woodstock in the US, or Peru, or Europe. All very far. Because wherever she is she's not far. If he did take a drive with the remains, it's not a long one.

I might've missed it, but did she quit or did she suddenly stop coming in?

JF's version of events is that she got fired from there. But since he's not reliable I'd say I don't know. Maybe the housewives might know, credit to them, they seemed to be in contact with neighbours and people who live in in O'Leary (how else did they get photos of the drive by of the junk at JF's house or this new video for example). JF might have thought about things technically (about destroying evidence or planting false evidence) but his brain likely didn't anticipate facebook moms who got a serious "ick" from him and who are likely banding together to get to the bottom of this. I don't know if you've seen it but, JF did a reaction video to the housewives (less than 30m video) which is like 2.5 hours long:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MpXBNWRReRg

Now it would likely take like at least 4 hours to go through the mistakes they made and then also the new inconsistencies he adds. Like he tries to tell them you don't know her, when she left the first time yes she went back to her parents for a while in 2021 but then she was on a couch in Montreal on drugs. And then when he gets to covering the video of her return she says a curse was put on her and she couldn't go back to Montreal. Also he says things like oh she couldn't have come back to PEI in 2023, because there is only 1 entry point and there are cameras. Yet one of his explanations is this "007 Elora", she will be sending you on false traces, she can travel to places without a passport (and that example involves hopping from Spain to North Africa and involves an island. She will be hiding her face with a hoodie from CCTV. I think the reason for his seethe is them saying stuff that wasn't true (like this benzos stuff, triggered his autism, the housewives might just be wildly speculating and gossiping here trying to find some other reason for her mental impairment, they seem to think she wasn't) but then also I think Rocky keeps talking about the home in PEI and won't stop talking about it and he really wants her to believe his claims of the sighting on the 19th and that Elora is further and couldn't possibly have come back. We have had no information come out about it. Maybe it's like very solid, but neither he or the police have provided any details about it. The only one we know of is this 4chan one from this year, which even JF said he's not sure of the validity of it. And did she manage to sneak back to the island after all if it's true? These are the kind of weeds you get into because he says so many things unrelated to the truth.

 

[AnOminous]

This is important because JF claimed that he had taken the 3 days off between 17 July and 20 July 2023 (when he didn't stream) because he wanted to clean the house. If he didn't clean the house, then what was he doing during those 3 days? It's possible the house got dirty again in the 4 months after he allegedly cleaned it and when the video above was taken.

My personal "if he did it" theory is that it was probably in a tard rage and probably by some incredibly violent method like a blunt object that left the place looking like a slaughterhouse. So he did an emergency clean immediately, spent the next four months meticulously disposing of anything he knew was "hot," and only then brought in the cleaning team to get rid of anything that might even remotely be evidence.

He just seems like the kind of guy who has an explosive, violent temper but when not in a rage of some sort is precise and methodical.

It's possible that she would just walk off to her death in the Canadian wilderness.

That's one of the more disturbing parts of the case. He may get away with it because it's actually plausible she would do some kooky shit like that. While still guilty of something, he wouldn't be an outright murderer.

And it's entirely possible everyone went straight to the "he murdered her" theory because he's such a creepy, weird piece of shit he came across like a serial killer even before any of this happened.

 

[Machine made Horrors]

It's possible that she would just walk off to her death in the Canadian wilderness

The fact that she went backpacking in her younger days and going out to the wilderness are 2 vastly different things. Surviving on the streets and in the wilds are 2 vastly different skill sets. Besides, now she has 2 kids one of which is an infant. There are very few women abandoning their kids like that, if she wanted to end it all it would be more likely have ended in a murder-suicide.

someone reported seeing her two days later in Moncton, New Brunswick (19 June 2023).

Unless there is video evidence I don't believe this report. The RCMP didn't release their press release until September over 3 months after she went missing. The place where the sighting took place is near a homeless shelter (or a drug rehab centre I can't remember) so there would be a number of people coming in and out all the time. It is either an op from the RCMP to get JF to say something stupid, or JF himself calling in a false sighting

It's possible the house got dirty again in the 4 months after he allegedly cleaned it and when the video above was taken

JF didn't leave PEI until Oct 4-6 of 2024. We don't know who took the video, but it has the vibes of a landlord/real estate agent/new homeowner taking video evidence of the condition of the property for insurance purposes, so it would have been taken sometime in October after JF left. So 1 year 4 months after looking at the leaves on the trees outside which show some green, some yellowing and some trees bare, it confirms an early October time-frame so shortly after JF fled PEI.

 

[Richard_Wetpasta]

I know the focus is on Elora herself but has there been anything to indicate that the kids are alive and well

The rapid abandonment of that property and secrecy about his children even two years back is suspicious imo

 

[Stupid Sexy Flanders]

I know the focus is on Elora herself but has there been anything to indicate that the kids are alive and well

We know that CPS had at one point been called and that he's been heard by the police. There's almost zero chance that the police wouldn't take note of where the children where. It wouldn't surprise me if his sudden move was because CPS had been in contact with him, probably because genuine worry but also because police was using it as putting extra pressure.

 

[Machine made Horrors]

to indicate that the kids are alive and well

The Alberta Housewives claim they know the kids are with JF. They didn't provide any receipts to back up this claim, but they have been very reliable so far.

So I guess we know they are alive, and in JF's custody. So not the best of situations.

 

[A Sentient Cloud]

Unless there is video evidence I don't believe this report. The RCMP didn't release their press release until September over 3 months after she went missing. The place where the sighting took place is near a homeless shelter (or a drug rehab centre I can't remember) so there would be a number of people coming in and out all the time. It is either an op from the RCMP to get JF to say something stupid, or JF himself calling in a false sighting

Some homeless shelters and food pantries ask for identification in order to access services. Her ID pinging in the system at one of the organizations on Albert Street could account for the "sighting."

It's possible that she would just walk off to her death in the Canadian wilderness.

This I just don't buy. The "wilderness" we're talking about here is Prince Edward Island: an idyllic, pastoral, densely settled island with exactly one point of access to the mainland; in early June, when the average daily temperature is comfortably in the mid-60s. A toddler would struggle to die of exposure in that environment.

 

[ZeroZero]

Momma JF is (was?) not retarded in any way shape or form, in fact she is/was smart and witty. She is doing a "silly girl in awe at the smarts of her scientist BF" act, her sense of humor goes over your heads because your minds are pre-formatted in "Attack JF mode". What is unusual about her is/was her hyper-bubbly personality. Also her "no money - no plan" trip to Europe suggests that she might be incapable of feeling healthy amounts of fear...this isn't the 1980's anymore, it is dangerous for a woman to do that in the current years.

 

[A Sentient Cloud]

Also her "no money - no plan" trip to Europe suggests that she might be incapable of feeling healthy amounts of fear...this isn't the 1980's anymore, it is dangerous for a woman to do that in the current years.

While I don't think Elora was smart, I'm also frankly unconvinced that she was retarded to the point of non-functionality. And yes, people get weirdly conservative and pearl-clutchy about Elora's backpacking adventures through Europe. What she describes in her video sounds pretty normal, if you've ever stayed in a hostel or gone to a hippie musical festival you've met at least one Elora. The Farms sometimes tells on itself with stuff like this.

 

[ZeroZero]

While I don't think Elora was smart, I'm also frankly unconvinced that she was retarded to the point of non-functionality. And yes, people get weirdly conservative and pearl-clutchy about Elora's backpacking adventures through Europe. What she describes in her video sounds pretty normal, if you've ever stayed in a hostel or gone to a hippie musical festival you've met at least one Elora. The Farms sometimes tells on itself with stuff like this.

I know that there are this neo-hippie types and their do their travels and stay in neo-hippie communes and all that but what she describes in the video is on the extreme side. Searching for food in trash, sleeping in the open somewhere, hitchhiking, etc, etc? That is extreme nowadays, most neo-hippies are bourgeoise who have at least some money and a plan. I have seen some of them ridding +100k euro campervans...