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A heated row has broken out over a move by Britain's largest bakery chain to launch a vegan sausage roll.

The pastry, which is filled with a meat substitute and encased in 96 pastry layers, is available in 950 Greggs stores across the country.

It was promised after 20,000 people signed a petition calling for the snack to be launched to accommodate plant-based diet eaters.


But the vegan sausage roll's launch has been greeted by a mixed reaction: Some consumers welcomed it, while others voiced their objections.

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Cook and food poverty campaigner Jack Monroe declared she was "frantically googling to see what time my nearest opens tomorrow morning because I will be outside".

While TV writer Brydie Lee-Kennedy called herself "very pro the Greggs vegan sausage roll because anything that wrenches veganism back from the 'clean eating' wellness folk is a good thing".

One Twitter user wrote that finding vegan sausage rolls missing from a store in Corby had "ruined my morning".

Another said: "My son is allergic to dairy products which means I can't really go to Greggs when he's with me. Now I can. Thank you vegans."

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TV presenter Piers Morgan led the charge of those outraged by the new roll.

"Nobody was waiting for a vegan bloody sausage, you PC-ravaged clowns," he wrote on Twitter.

Mr Morgan later complained at receiving "howling abuse from vegans", adding: "I get it, you're all hangry. I would be too if I only ate plants and gruel."

Another Twitter user said: "I really struggle to believe that 20,000 vegans are that desperate to eat in a Greggs."

"You don't paint a mustach (sic) on the Mona Lisa and you don't mess with the perfect sausage roll," one quipped.

Journalist Nooruddean Choudry suggested Greggs introduce a halal steak bake to "crank the fume levels right up to 11".

The bakery chain told concerned customers that "change is good" and that there would "always be a classic sausage roll".

It comes on the same day McDonald's launched its first vegetarian "Happy Meal", designed for children.

The new dish comes with a "veggie wrap", instead of the usual chicken or beef option.

It should be noted that Piers Morgan and Greggs share the same PR firm, so I'm thinking this is some serious faux outrage and South Park KKK gambiting here.
 
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Another day, another UK charity funnelling cash into Hamas
The charities watchdog has opened a compliance case into a British charity over “serious allegations” that the money it raises for families in Gaza ends up with Hamas.
The Charity Commission is examining the way that Save One Life UK distributes the money it collects in the UK.
The London-based charity is already being investigated by counter-terror police over claims the cash it distributes for children and their families may end up in the coffers of the banned terror group.
The Telegraph revealed earlier this year that concerns have been raised about an alleged lack of control over the way the funds raised are spent.
But the Charity Commission, which regulates all charities operating in Britain, has now opened a preliminary investigation – known as a regulatory compliance case – following allegations made about Save One Life UK.

A spokesman for the watchdog said: “We are aware of serious allegations made about Save One Life, which the charity also promptly reported to us. As a result, we have opened a regulatory compliance case to allow us to gather more information.

“As part of this, we have engaged with the charity’s trustees and are currently assessing both the charity’s activities and the trustees’ oversight, particularly in relation to the application of its funds overseas.”
The charity has raised more than £5 million in the past five years, with most of its aid directed to Gaza since the start of Israel’s military retaliation to the Oct 7 attacks by Hamas in 2023.
A complaint about Save One Life UK’s activities was submitted to the Metropolitan Police in April, via the Government’s online system for reporting material promoting terrorism or extremism.
Scotland Yard sources said the complaint was “passed on to the counter-terrorism internet referral unit for investigation”.

Save One Life tells potential donors on its website that it is “working with the Ministry of Social Development in Gaza” (MoSD) to deliver cash to “those most in need”.
Hamas, which governs Gaza and is banned as a terror group by the UK government, has exercised effective control over the MoSD in Gaza for several years.

Save One Life has said: “Beneficiaries are pre-vetted and approved for assistance by the ministry, and the financial assistance is directly distributed, accounted for and audited and is distributed strictly in line with the principles of Zakat [Islamic system of charitable giving].”
The Telegraph previously reported that publicity photographs submitted to police appeared to show charity workers handing over envelopes allegedly thought to contain cash to children in Gaza
In other footage, one of Save One Life UK’s workers describes giving cash to families bombed out of their homes and living in temporary shelters amid the ruins.
That has raised the fear that the charity has little control over where the funds it has raised in Britain ultimately end up in an area that is governed by Hamas.

The complainant told police: “Save One Life UK is a registered charity that is sending money to Gaza via an unknown broker in Turkey.
“A charity can be investigated if it is suspected of transferring money for non-charitable purposes, including political activity and support of terrorism, which would include allegations that the charity may provide material support for a proscribed terrorist group like Hamas.”

Among the charity’s trustees is Addeel Khan, the director of equity, inclusion and culture at University College London (UCL) and a former senior executive with the British Red Cross, who is a leading figure in the field of diversity, equity, and inclusion policy.
In a live-streamed video posted on Facebook in April 2021, Mr Khan said the charity works with the MoSD to vet beneficiaries.
He said: “They make sure they’re vetted and the money is checked, ID is provided, to make sure the right people are receiving it – and there is clear transparency in terms of where the money goes.”

Its Gaza Under Attack appeal appeared to come before Israel had launched any significant military response to the Hamas attacks.
In one image posed on social media on 10.16am on Oct 7, Save One Life UK stated: “Our brothers and sisters in Palestine are under attack again.”
In another poster, published on the first anniversary of the attacks, and after months of bombardment by Israel on Gaza, Save One Life UK declared: “Years of resistance. Palestine stands strong: 12 months of brutal violence. Decades of resilient resistance.”

A spokesman for Save One Life said: “We stand robustly behind our cash aid programme in Gaza to support the innocent civilians of Gaza suffering from the ongoing blockade and violence being committed by Israel.

“Cash aid is provided to Palestinians in the West Bank and Gaza by a number of organisations, including the UN and the IFRC.
“We have taken our own steps to notify the required bodies and are working with them transparently to address these false allegations.”
The spokesman added: “At a time when thousands have been killed through starvation and lack of funds to purchase bare essentials, we need the world and specifically the British public and media to support charitable efforts for the innocent victims.
“We always operate in full compliance with all applicable laws and regulations. For the avoidance of doubt, we do not work with Hamas or any proscribed terrorist organisation.”
Mr Khan was approached for comment.
 
@Morethanabitfoolish A good find, and I'd wager that more than one of the Crowdfunding 'appeals' for Gaza is actually an hamas/Hezbollah scam.

Strange that only now is something being done about these scams after years of inaction...

Starmer has caved to his backbenchers. The proposed changes to PIP will only apply to new claimants.

It may not be enough to quell the rebellion.
Hopefully it won't, as they want him gone no matter what.
 
@Morethanabitfoolish A good find, and I'd wager that more than one of the Crowdfunding 'appeals' for Gaza is actually an hamas/Hezbollah scam.

Strange that only now is something being done about these scams after years of inaction...
it's the old anrchotyranny.

the good and decent people are subject to totalitarian laws, snooping, punishment for wrong think, taxed to death etc.

the worst of us are allowed to do what the fuck they want with nothing ever done.
 
it's the old anrchotyranny.

the good and decent people are subject to totalitarian laws, snooping, punishment for wrong think, taxed to death etc.

the worst of us are allowed to do what the fuck they want with nothing ever done.
True, and I think most decent people and (dare I say it) some of his own MP's have said 'that's enough!'
 
Starmer has caved to his backbenchers. The proposed changes to PIP will only apply to new claimants.
That won't help any one because PIP is so often only given after going through the courts. They will refuse PIP renewals so you're off PIP and then when you appeal they will count it as a new claim.

I can see their games and how they will word salad it.
 
I was going to say, is Scotland known for it's tea? Also:

"He deceived luxury establishments by selling imported tea as Scottish produce, offering varieties with names like Highland Green"

If some Scottish bloke approached me with a bag of something he called "Highland Green" I would not think it would be tea.
Imagine trusting Scotland with tea after what happened in China.
 
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Starmer has caved to his backbenchers. The proposed changes to PIP will only apply to new claimants.

It may not be enough to quell the rebellion.
The government is expected to announce a deal shortly with Labour rebels on its planned benefits changes.
Multiple sources tell the BBC existing claimants of the Personal Independence Payment (Pip) will continue to receive what they currently get, as will recipients of the health element of Universal Credit.
It is also expected that the support to help people into employment will be fast forwarded so it happens sooner.
The concessions amount to a massive climbdown from the government, which was staring at the prospect of defeat if it failed to accommodate the demands of over 100 of its backbenchers.
It comes after Sir Keir Starmer spent Thursday making calls to shore up support among the 120 Labour MPs who backed an amendment to stop the government's flagship welfare bill progressing through Parliament.
Speaking in the Commons earlier, Sir Keir said he wanted to "see reform implemented with Labour values and fairness".
He said he recognised that MPs of all parties were "eager" to reform the "broken" welfare system.
Perfect. Every single shitty decision from here on onwards people need to be reminded that their local Labour MP should have threatened to rebel and that if they didn't or they did and got no support it's because Labour only really care about voters like this.
 
That won't help any one because PIP is so often only given after going through the courts. They will refuse PIP renewals so you're off PIP and then when you appeal they will count it as a new claim.

I can see their games and how they will word salad it.
Something like:

'If you don't back me then you're leaving the door open for Nigel to be PM!'

'Meh, fuck it, you don't care - we'll just go back to 'Netflix and Chill' all day like it's 2020.'
 
Thank you very much for the tea suggestions, as I can stomach tea without milk and am keto for the next few months.

As for Starmer, he is fucked. The discontent has been looming, and after not even a year, his leadership has been nothing but betrayal and scandal. He scorned his new backbench with the winter fuel and they were rightly pissed. He has been nothing but appalling and an international laughing stock.

The rebels know they have the killshot, so why let off? If they are being quiet, then you can tell they are secretly talking on. I think Rayner is going to be a massive architect in this, too.
 
Thank you very much for the tea suggestions, as I can stomach tea without milk and am keto for the next few months.

As for Starmer, he is fucked. The discontent has been looming, and after not even a year, his leadership has been nothing but betrayal and scandal. He scorned his new backbench with the winter fuel and they were rightly pissed. He has been nothing but appalling and an international laughing stock.

The rebels know they have the killshot, so why let off? If they are being quiet, then you can tell they are secretly talking on. I think Rayner is going to be a massive architect in this, too.
Labour voters are absolutely going to do the Joe Biden thing where the second another candidate pops up they'll talk about how they always hated Starmer and are glad to be rid of him, despite spending the past year publicly rimming him.
 
Why would the rebels knock Starmer over now? They don't need to. He blinked and they won, and now they know, as does everyone else, that they are in charge of the government without being accountable for what the government does. Starmer and Reeves can be the face of it, they can take all the flak for another 4 years. The rebels can stay comfy in the shadows.
 
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