Disaster With ‘Elio,’ Pixar Has Its Worst Box Office Opening Ever - Look upon my works, ye mighty, and despair.

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The original space adventure sold about $21 million in tickets at domestic theaters from Thursday night through Sunday, putting new pressure on the once-unstoppable studio.

Pixar knew that “Elio,” an original space adventure, would most likely struggle in its first weekend at the box office.

Animated movies based on original stories have become harder sells in theaters, even for the once-unstoppable Pixar. At a time when streaming services have proliferated and the broader economy is unsettled, families want assurance that spending the money for tickets will be worth it.
But the turnout for “Elio” was worse — much worse — than even Pixar had expected. The film, which cost at least $250 million to make and market, collected an estimated $21 million from Thursday evening through Sunday at theaters in the United States and Canada, according to Comscore, which compiles box office data.

It was Pixar’s worst opening-weekend result ever. The previous bottom was “Elemental,” which arrived to $30 million in 2023.

A month ago, when the “Elio” marketing campaign began to hit high gear, Pixar and its corporate owner, Disney, had hoped that “Elio” would, in the worst-case scenario, match the “Elemental” number. Instead, it fell 30 percent short.

In wide release overseas, “Elio” collected an additional $14 million, on a par with the initial international results for “Elemental.”
Quality did not appear to be a factor: Reviews for “Elio” were mostly positive, and ticket buyers gave the movie an A grade in CinemaScore exit polls. The Rotten Tomatoes audience score stood at 91 percent positive on Sunday.

Pixar has also recovered from a period during the coronavirus pandemic when Disney weakened the animation studio’s brand by using its films to build the Disney+ streaming service, bypassing theaters altogether. Last year, Pixar’s “Inside Out 2” was the No. 1 movie at the global box office. It sold $1.7 billion in tickets.

But original animated ideas have fallen out of favor at the box office, analysts said. Pixar is not alone. DreamWorks Animation’s “Ruby Gillman: Teenage Kraken” flatlined in 2023 with $5.5 million in opening-weekend sales. Illumination Animation’s “Migration” arrived to $12 million that year.

The problem for Pixar is that its originals remain wildly expensive. “Ruby Gillman” and “Migration” each cost 50 percent less than “Elio” did. (Pixar movies are still produced entirely in the United States, increasing labor costs. Some other studios have started to rely on overseas production.)
On Sunday, Disney said it hoped a broader audience would find “Elio” over the coming weeks. The company pointed to “Elemental,” which overcame weak initial sales to ultimately collect nearly $500 million worldwide.

Families have had a lot of theatrical options of late. Universal’s live-action “How to Train Your Dragon” remake, for instance, repeated as the No. 1 movie in North America over the weekend, with $37 million in ticket sales.

Second place went to the auteur horror sequel “28 Years Later” (Sony Pictures), which debuted to about $30 million. David A. Gross, a film consultant who publishes a newsletter on box office numbers, called that total “excellent.” Directed by Danny Boyle, “28 Years Later” cost about $60 million, not including marketing.

“Elio” was third.

Brooks Barnes covers all things Hollywood. He joined The Times in 2007 and previously worked at The Wall Street Journal.
 
Disney Afternoon was the shit yo. Don't hit me with this beanmouth woke slop that Disney got going on. You can't tell me a Darkwing Duck or Gummy Bears movies today done right wouldn't put asses in seats. Hey Bob Iger! You don't need Blackrock to tell you how to make money you fucking retard it's fucking simple as that! Miss me with this autistic shit!

Edit: I wrote out Darkwing Dick lol Thursday morning typing
Let's not forget TaleSpin, which had fucking air pirates. It was otherwise like Black Lagoon, but set in the 1930s and for kids.
 
I don't know what anyone should make of that site. Half the ratings are "members only" and they rate Inside Out 2 as "based."

Probably just a way for libs to get normal people to go watch movies they otherwise would stay far away from. Typical.
 
Seeing how disney absolutely butchered lilo and stitch just this year this post's opening sentence feels even more fake and gay YT video essayist "was never good" shit than ever. I rated dumb at first for the fact alone but then read the rest and now just feel sad.
I would liken it to pop music (including rock & roll, r&b, and everything else).

Pop music was, unlike swing, big band, and previous music movements, an attack on the past. For example, it was a rejection of technical dancing. A young person in 1925 could dance the Charleston to hot jazz. In 1967, there's no real way to dance to the Rolling Stones. It was also a rejection of formal music theory and training. As pop progressed, the more musical tradition it tears up, the simpler and dumber it gets. The average song now has maybe three or four chords, and the singer's range doesn't even cover an octave. Nobody knows how to dance unless they're some dweeb who takes lessons.

Given how far it's fallen, when you look back at music of the 60s or 70s, it seems incredible. The complexity and musicality of the arrangements on a fairly pedestrian record like the Byrds' 5th Dimension blows away any Top 40 record out today, to say nothing of albums like Revolver or Leftoverture. It doesn't mean the critics were wrong about the damage Little Richard and Elvis were doing to culture. They were actually right! They just didn't know how bad it was going to get.

On a similar note, the 1990s saw a degeneration of kids' movies into "PC." The first really blatant one was Ferngully. When Disney jumped on the trend with Pocahontas, it was a huge disappointment after the run of Little Mermaid, Beauty & the Beast, Aladdin, and Lion King was so impossibly good. Not only did PC seem to infect Disney, but the animation just seemed to get worse and worse. Lilo & Stitch didn't break that trend.

And yet, looking back, mediocrities like Hercules, the Emperor's New Groove, and Lilo & Stitch were still better, more intelligently made movies than what's out today. The live action remake of Lilo & Stitch feels like Cardi B covering Diana Ross.
 
Let's not forget TaleSpin, which had fucking air pirates. It was otherwise like Black Lagoon, but set in the 1930s and for kids.
I really dont like how alot of american cartoons basically sis 22 minute movie parody's. Talespin did night of the hunter.

super mario bros super show was honestly nothing but movie parody.
 
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mediocrities like Hercules, the Emperor's New Groove, and Lilo & Stitch were still better, more intelligently made movies than what's out today.
Those were 3 movies I still think about more than most disney shit so i don't know what that says about me

That and tarzan.... though that's probably my monke bias.

I can't find the uncropped HD version of it anymore but this reminded me how hercules used some live action references for animation.
 
It's like the Good Dinosaur was that first time you die in an FPS match that had been going really well, and you think you can bounce back but now you're nervous and it's thrown you off your game, and then you die again, and again, and now you're tilted and it's not looking like this is your match anymore
That's Pixar since 2015

Pixar had already declined to the point where Inside Out was heralded as a return to the "good Pixar movies". If The Good Dinosaur was a decent movie then Cars 2, Brave, and Monsters University would've been seen as a rough spot in the Pixar canon, and it wouldn't have mattered. Instead, The Good Dinosaur proved Inside Out was a fluke and the decline was permanent. Before the first drop-off happened after Toy Story 3, it was Cars that was seen as the weakest film, now it's part of Golden Age (or near-Golden Age) Pixar, that's how bad things really are.

Not to rain on your parade, but Lilo & Stitch walked so that modern DEI wokeslop could run. Lilo & Stitch is good because it's drawing on the values and forms of pre-diversity movie making.

The reason the movie happened at all is there was a demand from higher up for more diversity and more representation. But at the time, that didn't mean you hired shitty artists just because they were niggers and bad writers just because they were women. You put talented people in charge, and if that meant white men, so be it. You can even show the Diversity People to be meaningfully different from white people in ways that aren't all celebratory. It's okay to draw the Hawaiians with Polynesian-looking faces. It's okay for them to be poor, have their own struggles, and not live in an intrinsically superior society. Writing a compelling story and animating it well were still holdover values from the Before Times. Those values are dead, now, because they ultimately conflict with the demands of diversity.

When I was a kid, Lilo & Stitch always kind of rubbed me the wrong way because it had the idea of a "family" was just "a bunch of people who stick together". This was the one of the first films that I remember doing so, and DreamWorks had a lot of that bullshit going on in the 2000s.
 
Chris Sanders and Dean DeBlois aren't Hawaiian, they just respected the culture that much to take great care in making sure it was Hawaiian in appearance and mannerisms. Respect is something modern writers don't even have anymore.
IIRC Lucha Libre back in the day didn't have a single Mexican on the writing team, just a bunch of guys who were fond of and respected the content.
 
I was talking to my wife about this movie failing because we both are fond of old Pixar films. She's not tuned in with animation besides just liking movies and shows (Not anime. she hates anime). She started ranting about how much she hates how everything looks the same now. The "weird heads and mouths" design. She was talking about Calarts. I have to wonder how many other just average movie goes are sick to death of it. They don't know the industry lingo for it, they just hate it and don't need to know anything else.
 
I can't find the uncropped HD version of it anymore but this reminded me how hercules used some live action references for animation.
This is (used to be?) the standard norm tbh. Your imagination can only do so much, so using references is to be expected. There's a story (might've been in the commentary) where one of Frollo's animators made herself a 1:1 replica of his clothes and hat and filmed herself walking and gesticulating about so she could see how the fabrics moved naturally since they weren't of the same texture. (But legit, it's so cool they actually filmed the voice-actresses for that musical sequence and had the shot compositions all worked out.)

When I was a kid, Lilo & Stitch always kind of rubbed me the wrong way because it had the idea of a "family" was just "a bunch of people who stick together". This was the one of the first films that I remember doing so, and DreamWorks had a lot of that bullshit going on in the 2000s.
It wasn't telling people to let literal random nobodies move in with you to form a family unit, it was pretty explicit that adoption was still valid for families. Stitch was adopted, and he essentially had himself a biological father who still decided to be in his life despite being in a new family. Pleakley became like an uncle, though his bond with everyone was something forged by fire, in a sense, so he's a close family-friend, so everyone's also there for him. And David is Nani's boyfriend, and so very likely the two will get married in the future and have their own kids (I don't know if you ever see David's family). Cobra Bubbles is tasked with keeping an eye on them since there's aliens living on Earth, but he's become a friend, too.

That's what I've taken away from it. Maybe I'm just a weirdo since at church, our ward sees itself as a family unit of sorts, where while we all have our own families, when grouped together we're all still together like a family (has a patriarch and everything lol) and close bonds with other families do form as a result, so we tend to be involved in others' lives. Its proper term is a community, of course, but you form bonds with people, and sometimes you'll come to see someone as like family.

At the very least, Lilo & Stitch didn't deny children come from a father and mother bound together in marriage, and hasn't pushed for gay surrogacy or some other creepy globohomo shit (besides the remake going on about how you should give your kids up to the state but hopefully the future completely rejects this movie as the mistake it is). Just because there are fans who swear up-and-down Jumba and Pleakley are totally gay for each other doesn't mean it's actually canon.
 
It wasn't telling people to let literal random nobodies move in with you to form a family unit, it was pretty explicit that adoption was still valid for families. Stitch was adopted, and he essentially had himself a biological father who still decided to be in his life despite being in a new family. Pleakley became like an uncle, though his bond with everyone was something forged by fire, in a sense, so he's a close family-friend, so everyone's also there for him. And David is Nani's boyfriend, and so very likely the two will get married in the future and have their own kids (I don't know if you ever see David's family). Cobra Bubbles is tasked with keeping an eye on them since there's aliens living on Earth, but he's become a friend, too.

That's what I've taken away from it. Maybe I'm just a weirdo since at church, our ward sees itself as a family unit of sorts, where while we all have our own families, when grouped together we're all still together like a family (has a patriarch and everything lol) and close bonds with other families do form as a result, so we tend to be involved in others' lives. Its proper term is a community, of course, but you form bonds with people, and sometimes you'll come to see someone as like family.

At the very least, Lilo & Stitch didn't deny children come from a father and mother bound together in marriage, and hasn't pushed for gay surrogacy or some other creepy globohomo shit (besides the remake going on about how you should give your kids up to the state but hopefully the future completely rejects this movie as the mistake it is). Just because there are fans who swear up-and-down Jumba and Pleakley are totally gay for each other doesn't mean it's actually canon.

True, but you like anything else, you can see how even being solid on its own, laid the groundwork for other bullshit. It's the same sort of thing of how it's proto-DEI, it's not actually DEI the same way Elio is but you could see how it went that way.
 
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True, but you like anything else, you can see how even being solid on its own, laid the groundwork for other bullshit. It's the same sort of thing of how it's proto-DEI, it's not actually DEI the same way Elio is but you could see how it went that way.
Something being sold and DEI-free only invites corrupted infinite sequels because the DEI mongers get their hooks into the production with "You made a billion bucks with the last one, imagine how much more you'll make once we IMPROVE it!" and you get..... stuff like Joker 2.

Even successes these days make you brace for impact, if not in 5 minutes? Then in 5 years.
 
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Something being sold and DEI-free only invites corrupted infinite sequels because the DEI mongers get their hooks into the production with "You made a billion bucks with the last one, imagine how much more you'll make once we IMPROVE it!" and you get..... stuff like Joker 2.

Even successes these days make you brace for impact, if not in 5 minutes? Then in 5 years.

Joker 2 is an unusual case since Todd Phillips did not really understand why the original was such a success and made it his mission to spite anyone who liked it. I know he did some public talks about it, but what I got from either him or the rest of the press was that Arthur Fleck was not and was never a "model" for anyone, they just found his character and his struggles relatable, despite being a creepy weirdo for the entirety of the film.

The usual victims of DEI are any property or...hell, anything, even something like Target, that can be seen as needing "enhancement". DEI isn't about making money, it's about flaunting money and power, and when that's cut off, DEI dies. You could arguably say that it wasn't the fact that, say, Indiana Jones and the Dial of Destiny did poorly in theaters, it was to humiliate and demean the IP's legacy. They didn't have Strange World to be a fun crowd-pleaser in the busy holiday season (it was release November 23rd, which is where the biggest, most profitable movies released), it was to prove a point...only that they got a bit blindsided by the fact that their "diverse" film crew was also completely incompetent, and burned through their enormous ~$150M budget.
 
Something being sold and DEI-free only invites corrupted infinite sequels because the DEI mongers get their hooks into the production with "You made a billion bucks with the last one, imagine how much more you'll make once we IMPROVE it!" and you get..... stuff like Joker 2.

Even successes these days make you brace for impact, if not in 5 minutes? Then in 5 years.
It happened to Squid Game too. They introduced a Mary Sue tranny (Mary Troon?) and a Mary Sue baby to push their woke agenda.
 
Little Mermaid, Beauty & the Beast, Aladdin, and Lion King was so impossibly good.
Put respect on the name of Mulan.
I really dont like how alot of american cartoons basically sis 22 minute movie parody's. Talespin did night of the hunter.
The Grim Adventures of Billy and Mandy did God Emperor of Dune, and god damn it, it may be the only adaptation we get of it because filmmakers are fucking cowards.
At the very least, Lilo & Stitch didn't deny children come from a father and mother bound together in marriage, and hasn't pushed for gay surrogacy or some other creepy globohomo shit (besides the remake going on about how you should give your kids up to the state but hopefully the future completely rejects this movie as the mistake it is). Just because there are fans who swear up-and-down Jumba and Pleakley are totally gay for each other doesn't mean it's actually canon.
And it didn't advocate for no-contacting your family. If anything, it was about not giving up on the family you have in tough circumstances (Nani doing her damndest to not let Cobra Bubbles take Lilo away despite not being equipped to take care of a child herself), and even growing your family instead of pulling an "us against the world" attitude.

It happened to Squid Game too. They introduced a Mary Sue tranny (Mary Troon?) and a Mary Sue baby to push their woke agenda.
And by tortured extension, The Acolyte.

There's no doubt they cast Lee Jung-Jae because of Squid Game - a series that was a ratings bonanza because it offered something new and different - and yet they put him in a series that primarily coasted on nostalgia bait (including the casting of Carrie-Ann Moss) thinly covering over the same kind of fanfiction that exists to tear down the IP and fashion it into the "new" vision to suit the creators' sense of vanity.

And yet...the identity junkies out there are still whipping around the accusations that the failure of their precious creations as "everyone else's problem". Not from their diversity-boosting initiatives. It's just like, and let's face it, related to, the political Left's wild decision to spend $20M figuring out how to talk to men without actually talking to them.
 
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