Lolcow Andrew Peter Carlson / Anaiah Carlson / Tamarlover / Xtamarlover - Jewish/Christian Wannabe Cult Leader, Stalker, Ugly af, dogfucker, mayor of spitsville

[repentance]

This post shows that what I learned is based heavily on Tamar's former actions and influence in my life.

Tamar is a highly manipulative, deceptive, and controlling person. I dare say she is more manipulative, deceptive, and controlling than me.

You've gone from denying that she's psycho to providing evidence that she is in just a few posts.

Also, sane people don't get voices in their head telling them to do things so they never have to decide whether or not it's "God" talking to them. Are you telling us you experience command hallucinations? If so, then you need *urgent* psychiatric help - and fucked up as Tamar may be she be requesting that the court order you to have a psych evaluation.

 

[Rumpled Foreskin]

You are misrepresenting it. I gave him a shower. I didnt water board him. He was just scared because he didn't like water on his head. I didn't make him unable to breathe like happens with water boarding. As for locking in the basement, as I mentioned, me, my ex, and her son, lived in the basement. We were often downstairs in the basement with him. The only difference from what it usually was was when we put him in the basement as timeout, we weren't there with him. It also wasn't for a very long time. Its pretty easy to twist things and exaggerate them to make them look less than they actually were. It reminds me of this one animation where there is this kid thats bullying this somewhat fat kid and hits him all the time. And the kid finally stands up for himself but only flicks the bully in the nose. The kid then cries ridiculously highly exaggerated as if he was majorly hurt and like he was bullied and physically assaulted by the fat kid and the fat kid ends up getting in trouble. Thats what this is like. I gave him a shower when he didn't want one and you say i waterboarded him. Greatly distorting what actually happen with the sole intention to make me look worse than i actually am.

I guess you don't understand hyperbole. However, my point still stands. There were several better options to discipline this kid. He wasn't even your kid and your responsibility. To boot, you're bringing up an analogy of a bully and his victim, where you are the victim and he is the bully. Seriously?

I don't think I have the feature to edit my comments. I have the feature to edit a message in private messages. But no feature to edit my comments in this thread.

After you post something, look at your post. Hit tools. Then hit edit. Not difficult.

Edit to add: part of the reason I've responded the way I have is to show how inconsistent you are with your answers and motives.

 

[Anaiah Carlson]

I guess you don't understand hyperbole. However, my point still stands. There were several better options to discipline this kid. He wasn't even your kid and your responsibility. To boot, you're bringing up an analogy of a bully and his victim, where you are the victim and he is the bully. Seriously?

After you post something, look at your post. Hit tools. Then hit edit. Not difficult.

It doesn't have a tools option for my posts as far as I can tell. Some users are allowed to delete their comments. Some are allowed to edit their comments. I believe that I was not given the priveleges to delete or edit my comments out of the admins worrying I'd delete or edit comments I regretted making.

 

[Cato]

@Rumpled Foreskin - In fairness, persons of interest actually don't have editing privileges (for obvious reasons).

 

[Rumpled Foreskin]

@Rumpled Foreskin - In fairness, persons of interest actually don't have editing privileges (for obvious reasons).

Yeah I thought of that after I hit the send button. I like how easy it is for @tamarlover to hyper focus on something as non sequitur as that. Idk Why I expect him to have any sense of personal responsibility towards anything in his life.

Is it really that difficult to say you fucked up in a lot of ways @tamarlover?

 

[Anaiah Carlson]

You've gone from denying that she's psycho to providing evidence that she is in just a few posts.

Also, sane people don't get voices in their head telling them to do things so they never have to decide whether or not it's "God" talking to them. Are you telling us you experience command hallucinations? If so, then you need *urgent* psychiatric help - and fucked up as Tamar may be she be requesting that the court order you to have a psych evaluation.

Neither I nor (to my knowledge) Tamar have ever heard voices in our heads. I'm simply saying if there ever was a voice that I heard in the future, I would have to determine who the voice was with proof before I could listen to what it says. However, my ex has heard voices in her head and I am absolutely certain my ex has paranoid schizophrenia. I do not believe I nor Tamar have any psychopathic issues.

Yeah I thought of that after I hit the send button. I like how easy it is for @tamarlover to hyper focus on something as non sequitur as that. Idk Why I expect him to have any sense of personal responsibility towards anything in his life.

Is it really that difficult to say you fucked up in a lot of ways @tamarlover?

I've messed up in a lot of ways, sure, but I am on the fence regarding how I treated Tamar. On some days I feel like I was very often an extremely horrible person to her. On other days, I feel like I was only an extremely horrible person to her during November 2016, and that all other times I was not a horrible person to her.

 

[gummy]

It reminds me of this one animation where there is this kid thats bullying this somewhat fat kid and hits him all the time. And the kid finally stands up for himself but only flicks the bully in the nose. The kid then cries ridiculously highly exaggerated as if he was majorly hurt and like he was bullied and physically assaulted by the fat kid and the fat kid ends up getting in trouble. Thats what this is like. I gave him a shower when he didn't want one and you say i waterboarded him. Greatly distorting what actually happen with the sole intention to make me look worse than i actually am.

Did the child do anything to bully you? How old was he at the time?

 

[Anaiah Carlson]

Did the child do anything to bully you? How old was he at the time?

He was three years old. No he didn't bully me I just use sometimes really extreme or unrelated comparisons sometimes. Usually for example if I try to argue with someone that something is immoral, i'll think of a much worse immoral thing that has something similar to it, to try to make my point. Like if I wanted to argue that paying someone to slap a random stranger in the face is wrong, I might compare it to paying someone to rape someone else or to mass murder other people. And say see if paying someone to rape someone is wrong, then paying someone to slap someone for no good reason is als wrong.

 

[gummy]

He was three years old.

Locking a toddler alone in a basement or forcing them into the shower just seems... heavy-handed. Couldn't you have just taken a toy from them or restricted an activity, such as TV?
Did any other notable events occur when you were with this woman and her child? How long had you been dating her before the shower stuff happened?

 

[Owen Grady]

He was three years old. No he didn't bully me I just use sometimes really extreme or unrelated comparisons sometimes. Usually for example if I try to argue with someone that something is immoral, i'll think of a much worse immoral thing that has something similar to it, to try to make my point. Like if I wanted to argue that paying someone to slap a random stranger in the face is wrong, I might compare it to paying someone to rape someone else or to mass murder other people. And say see if paying someone to rape someone is wrong, then paying someone to slap someone for no good reason is als wrong.

http://www.txstate.edu/philosophy/resources/fallacy-definitions/Faulty-Analogy.html

 

[Anaiah Carlson]

http://www.txstate.edu/philosophy/resources/fallacy-definitions/Faulty-Analogy.html

The goal i try to do is use the most absurd examples possible while maintaining a nonfaulty analogical relationship.

 

[Rumpled Foreskin]

The goal i try to do is use the most absurd examples possible while maintaining a nonfaulty analogical relationship.

You can't own up to the tiniest mistake you make, can you?

 

[Anaiah Carlson]

Locking a toddler alone in a basement or forcing them into the shower just seems... heavy-handed. Couldn't you have just taken a toy from them or restricted an activity, such as TV?
Did any other notable events occur when you were with this woman and her child? How long had you been dating her before the shower stuff happened?

I had been in a relationship with her for about 3.5 months. I had been in a sexual relationship with her for a few weeks.

If I had to redo things, I would have done things differently. I don't think what I did was horribly traumatic or really bad, but I would not do that again were I to have an opportunity to do it over. I believe though most parents make mistakes, and while I was not really a parent since it didn't last that long, she was treating me as if i were her son's parent so I did have a little bit of that experience of having to try to figure out how to properly raise a child with her. So I would classify it as making a mistake in attempting to discipline, and I learned what not to do in the future. But I don't think it was a horrible thing that happened. Just something unfortunate that happened.

 

[repentance]

It's interesting how you always minimise your own behaviour as "a mistake" or "not that bad" while simultaneously believing that the behaviour of others towards you justifies extreme responses.

You're the lolcow I most expect to see featured on a future episode of Murder: She Made Me Do It.

 

[gummy]

I had been in a relationship with her for about 3.5 months. I had been in a sexual relationship with her for a few weeks.

So at that point you were just an acquaintance to the child, yet the mother allowed you to strip him and force him into a shower. She seems like a pretty terrible mother- she's basically teaching her son that strangers have the right to handle him naked and potentially molest him. And this woman thought you were God? Yeah, he probably won't be traumatized.

 

[Anaiah Carlson]

So at that point you were just an acquaintance to the child, yet the mother allowed you to strip him and force him into a shower. She seems like a pretty terrible mother- she's basically teaching her son that strangers have the right to handle him naked and potentially molest him. And this woman thought you were God? Yeah, he probably won't be traumatized.

She was telling him that I was his dad. Good news is the relationship didn't last that long before it ended so the damage was minimal for her son. You should only marry someone that you trust wholeheartedly is not going to molest your child. My ex trusted me 100%. She knew I would never do anything to him like that.

All three of us were naked a large majority of the time in her dad's house. I think he was already naked at the time. He often took off his clothes and liked to run around naked. I did not strip off his clothes ever as far as I can remember. When I gave him a shower I am pretty sure I had my clothes on. She didn't know I was trying to give him a shower, and she heard him screaming and ran to the bathroom to see what was wrong. she was scared he might be hurt. So she had not in that instance said "sure you can give him a shower." It was understood she didn't mind me trying to give him a shower, but I should have told her first ahead of time I was giving him a shower so she wouldn't be scared when hearing him cry. I wasn't thinking about that so that was a mistake on my part. I learned then there needs to be communication to make sure both parents or both caretakers are aware of what is going on so no misunderstandings or unecessary worries happen.

 

[repentance]

All three of us were naked a large majority of the time in her dad's house.

Is this one of the reasons her father kicked you out?

 

[Rumpled Foreskin]

She was telling him that I was his dad.....,You should only marry someone that you trust wholeheartedly is not going to molest your child. My ex trusted me 100%. She knew I would never do anything to him like that.

All three of us were naked a large majority of the time in her dad's house. I think he was already naked at the time. He often took off his clothes and liked to run around naked. I did not strip off his clothes ever as far as I can remember. When I gave him a shower I am pretty sure I had my clothes on. She didn't know I was trying to give him a shower, and she heard him screaming and ran to the bathroom to see what was wrong. she was scared he might be hurt. So she had not in that instance said "sure you can give him a shower." It was understood she didn't mind me trying to give him a shower, but I should have told her first ahead of time I was giving him a shower so she wouldn't be scared when hearing him cry. I wasn't thinking about that so that was a mistake on my part. I learned then there needs to be communication to make sure both parents or both caretakers are aware of what is going on so no misunderstandings or unecessary worries happen.

WHAT THE FUCK?!

 

[gummy]

It was understood she didn't mind me trying to give him a shower, but I should have told her first ahead of time I was giving him a shower so she wouldn't be scared when hearing him cry.

But even if you didn't do anything inappropriate, she's still opened this door for her son to see this kind of activity as acceptable. Can't you envision of the wrong person taking advantage of this in the future? She's normalized strange men being openly nude around her son, being allowed free reign to devise twisted punishments, etc. Sure, you backed off when the whole "you are my God" stuff happened, but what's to stop another man with nefarious intentions from responding "...Yes. I am your God" and abusing both of them.
That poor child.

 

[Rumpled Foreskin]

She was telling him that I was his dad. Good news is the relationship didn't last that long before it ended so the damage was minimal for her son. You should only marry someone that you trust wholeheartedly is not going to molest your child. My ex trusted me 100%. She knew I would never do anything to him like that.

All three of us were naked a large majority of the time in her dad's house. I think he was already naked at the time. He often took off his clothes and liked to run around naked. I did not strip off his clothes ever as far as I can remember. When I gave him a shower I am pretty sure I had my clothes on. She didn't know I was trying to give him a shower, and she heard him screaming and ran to the bathroom to see what was wrong. she was scared he might be hurt. So she had not in that instance said "sure you can give him a shower." It was understood she didn't mind me trying to give him a shower, but I should have told her first ahead of time I was giving him a shower so she wouldn't be scared when hearing him cry. I wasn't thinking about that so that was a mistake on my part. I learned then there needs to be communication to make sure both parents or both caretakers are aware of what is going on so no misunderstandings or unecessary worries happen.

If this doesn't qualify for the Horrorcow tag, frankly I don't know what will anymore.