Star Trek - Space: The Final Frontier

[Flexo]

The D'Derix Warbird will always have a special place in my heart as the quintessential bad guy ship. Equal to the Enterprise D in every way, and in some ways surpasses it. Cloaking gives them a huge ass advantage, and I always thought the Treaty of Algeron was fucking dumb from a story telling standpoint.

Storytelling? Perhaps.

Rather true to life and how dumb politics can be? Kind of on point.

 

[teriyakiburns]

Rather true to life and how dumb politics can be? Kind of on point.

Admiral Pressman's only mistake was feature-creep.

 

[Captain Syrup]

Treaty of Algeron was fucking dumb

These dudes’ entire tactical advantage is peekaboo. “You can’t see me."

Every time Romulans show up it's just one dude in shoulder pads saying, “You have violated the neutral zone." And the Federation is scared of these guys?

 

[Ultraman Orb Dark]

Cloaking gives them a huge ass advantage, and I always thought the Treaty of Algeron was fucking dumb from a story telling standpoint.

SF Debris once pointed out that the whole treaty's conditions were never revealed, and for all we know, the Federation got other concessions. While it's a credible theory, the issue is that in the episode it was first established in, Picard's biggest issue with Admiral Maxwell experimenting with cloaking technology is that it's supposedly kept them at peace for decades... when the Romulans are the most recurring enemy faction in all of TNG, even more than the Borg or Q. This was during the middle of the seventh season, after several encounters with he Romulans.

These dudes’ entire tactical advantage is “you can’t see me."

Every time Romulans show up it's just one dude in shoulder pads saying, “You have violated the neutral zone,” and the Federation were scared of these guys?

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One of the most unintentionally funny moments in all of TNG is how the first season finale hyped up the official return of the Romulans, and all it amounts to is...

"Hey, did you destroy our outposts?"

"No. Did you destroy ours?"

"No. You wanna work together to find out who did?"

"Sure. This doesn't mean we're friends though."

"Okay, have a nice day."

 

[Drag-on Knight 91873]

SF Debris once pointed out that the whole treaty's conditions were never revealed, and for all we know, the Federation got other concessions. While it's a credible theory, the issue is that in the episode it was first established in, Picard's biggest issue with Admiral Maxwell experimenting with cloaking technology is that it's supposedly kept them at peace for decades... when the Romulans are the most recurring enemy faction in all of TNG, even more than the Borg or Q. This was during the middle of the seventh season, after several encounters with he Romulans.

One of the most unintentionally funny moments in all of TNG is how the first season finale hyped up the official return of the Romulans, and all it amounts to is...

"Hey, did you destroy our outposts?"

"No. Did you destroy ours?"

"No. You wanna work together to find out who did?"

"Sure. This doesn't mean we're friends though."

"Okay, have a nice day."

"It was a treaty signed in good faith!"

Said by Picard after he spent six years watching and foiling Romulan fuckery first-hand. Even in this episode, the first thing he does is BS the Romulan Captain about astronomical surveys or whatever.

 

[Curzon Dax-sama]

"It was treaty signed in good faith!"

Said by Picard after he spent six years watching and foiling Romulan fuckery first-hand. Even in this episode, the first thing he does is BS the Romulan Captain about astronomical surveys or whatever.

>be Picard
>be told by a 20th century banker that the Romulans are full of shit by just looking at them through the view screen for two seconds
>be told by your Klingon chief of security, who lost his parents to a Romulan attack, that the Romulans are, infact, full of shit
>have your usually useless shrink abducted by Romulan dissidents who - to no surprise of no one - are full of shit
>get involved in the Klingon civil war and discover that the Romulans who are full of shit are even fuller of shit this time
>join one of the most experienced diplomats of the Federation in cowboy diplomacy and discover that the Romulans are full of shit to a degree previously thought impossible
>meet Pressman who tells you that the Romulans are full of shit and that we should even the playing field so that Federation ships can't be ambushed anymore by people who are full of shit
>"You violated a treaty the Federation signed with the Romulans (who are full of shit) in good faith!"
I think Picard is a secret Romulan.

 

[Flexo]

I think Picard is a secret Romulan.

Is that your explanation for Nemesis?

 

[Hey Johnny Bravo]

>be Picard
>be told by a 20th century banker that the Romulans are full of shit by just looking at them through the view screen for two seconds
>be told by your Klingon chief of security, who lost his parents to a Romulan attack, that the Romulans are, infact, full of shit
>have your usually useless shrink abducted by Romulan dissidents who - to no surprise of no one - are full of shit
>get involved in the Klingon civil war and discover that the Romulans who are full of shit are even fuller of shit this time
>join one of the most experienced diplomats of the Federation in cowboy diplomacy and discover that the Romulans are full of shit to a degree previously thought impossible
>meet Pressman who tells you that the Romulans are full of shit and that we should even the playing field so that Federation ships can't be ambushed anymore by people who are full of shit
>"You violated a treaty the Federation signed with the Romulans (who are full of shit) in good faith!"
I think Picard is a secret Romulan.

A while back, someone in the thread said my use of Romulans as a main post-DS9 bad guy undid all the work Picard did. I ask: what work would that be? The Romulans are douchebags.

 

[Curzon Dax-sama]

Is that your explanation for Nemesis?

Well, they wanted to replace Picard with a clone that would infiltrate Starfleet and cause chaos. What to say? They succeeded. Make with that information what you will.

A while back, someone in the thread said my use of Romulans as a main post-DS9 bad guy undid all the work Picard did. I ask: what work would that be? The Romulans are douchebags.

It's just hilarious how gullible the Federation is when it comes to the Romulans.

 

[AnOminous]

Every time Romulans show up it's just one dude in shoulder pads saying, “You have violated the neutral zone,” and the Federation were scared of these guys?

They should just bend over the Romulans, tell them "Oh yeah I'm gonna violate the fuck out of your Neutral Zone" and then do that.

 

[Ultraman Orb Dark]

It's just hilarious how gullible the Federation is when it comes to the Romulans

How many times have they been fooled by one pretending to be a Vulcan?

 

[marvlouslie]

One of the most unintentionally funny moments in all of TNG is how the first season finale hyped up the official return of the Romulans, and all it amounts to is...

It ultimately set up the Borg, we didn't really know at the time, but hindsight, it was kind of a good setup. Just the execution was rather stupid.

 

[Flexo]

How many times have they been fooled by one pretending to be a Vulcan?

"All vulcans and romulans look alike to me." -Sisko

 

[Uncle Buck]

"All vulcans and romulans look alike to me." -Sisko

Random Vulcan Starfleet Officer just within earshot: “No Vulcan ever called you ‘nigger’”.

 

[Chilson]

Random Vulcan Starfleet Officer just within earshot: “No Vulcan ever called you ‘nigger’”.

"Shut your mouth and get me a raktajino pointy ear before I throw you into the wormhole ass first" - Sisko said calmly

 

[Captain Syrup]

"Shut your mouth and get me a raktajino pointy ear before I throw you into the wormhole ass first" - Sisko said calmly

What’s always cracked me up about Star Trek is how Kirk has this righteous fury over the Klingons killing his son, Picard has PTSD from getting Borgified, and then there’s Sisko, who’s just permanently pissed at the Vulcans because they clowned on him during gym class and then ruined his batting average.

 

[Mussolini’s Merkin]

DS9's father-son relationship between Benjamin and Jake is so underrated.

It’s really a great part of the show, I think Avery Brooks had a lot of input in how it went.

Thunderchild

ULLA!!!!!!

(sorry, had to be done)

 

[Ultraman Orb Dark]

What’s always cracked me up about Star Trek is how Kirk has this righteous fury over the Klingons killing his son, Picard has PTSD from getting Borgified, and then there’s Sisko, who’s just permanently pissed at the Vulcans because they clowned on him during gym class and then ruined his batting average.View attachment 7565167

Imagine if the reason why the Vulcans are so good at baseball is because they watched Moneyball.

It’s really a great part of the show, I think Avery Brooks had a lot of input in how it went.

I think I once read something saying that Brooks requested DS9's ending be changed due to how Sisko leaving his wife and son without ever coming back raised a ton of unfortunate implications.

 

[Uncle Buck]

"Shut your mouth and get me a raktajino pointy ear before I throw you into the wormhole ass first" - Sisko said calmly

 

[Captain Syrup]

I think I once read something saying that Brooks requested DS9's ending be changed due to how Sisko leaving his wife and son without ever coming back raised a ton of unfortunate implications.

In retrospect, turning Sisko into an incorporeal Ghost Dad trapped in Prophet Cloud Jail was maybe not the most uplifting sendoff.

"Shut your mouth and get me a raktajino pointy ear before I throw you into the wormhole ass first" - Sisko said calmly