wow, definitely keep posting more chat logs. I would like to see the ones from around the time your ex "went crazy" and decided you raped her.
Here's when she first told me that she believed I raped her. This was right around the time when I met Tamar. I met Tamar just two weeks before this conversation with my ex (its a little long, but very interesting read):
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12/12/2012 5:16AM
(My Ex)
Delete those pics of us and of my son on the bench or else
12/12/2012 4:47PM
Andrew
i thought i had them all on private. I have now made them private the ones that weren't.
How come you can't just leave me alone? You going to the trouble of saying this to me is really offensive and hurtful. If you want to make peace and friendship with me, it would be nice, but you could have asked me to delete the pictures nicely. do you still hate me?
how did you even know i had photos of you up on my profile? you having spies on me or were you so paranoid of being associated with me because i am so shameful to you you had to unblock me briefly just to see if i did?
I really don't understand why you can't be at peace with me
. aka a friend, or at least not an enemy.
(My Ex)
Get them off completely or I will Persue legal action. This means last warning. No hiding them in private off completely. U r an offense to me for this,
I was nice to you Andrew but you created a site taking on my son's identity? What is wrong with you?
Andrew
I don't use that site. i chose the name in honor of him. i can change that name if you like. but again i don't use that site. how will you know if i have deleted them or not, even if i tell you i have; since currently they are private? if i delete them, they will still be in my emails and computer. are you saying i have to delete them from my emails and computer too? how far are you trying to take this? also i know its illegal to have photos without someone's consent if the photos are public. can you show me where ti says its illegal to have private photos without consent? im not trying to be difficult. just you are threatening legal action, and if you are serious, then as Scripture says, if possible settle it out of court peacefully. So can you show me in peace the illegality of having it private? your dad is a lawyer, so i would think it shouldn't be too hard to show doing so is illegal. if the photos are still up, can you still see them? you were nice to me? i don't remember this. if you really want them off my facebook, please show me a link which informs that it is illegal to have them in private. or i will do research and try to find out if its illegal or not and if its illegal, then i'll take them down. but it would help if you show me, since you are the one that wants me to take them down.
12/12/2012 9:07PM
Andrew
Wow i am shocked... i just read your comment, and i can NOT believe you said this "Get this pic off! I will report you to police as I have already reported you to Facebook. Stop exploiting what you did! We were never married Andrew. You kidnapped me and my son to Ohio you cut off all my hair. U shamed me, u raped me you distroyed my life for a season and you exploit it now? I begged you to eat real food, to let us go. Get every pic of us off of your page before I report it."
how DARE you. I did NOT rape you. You were consenting. I did NOT kidnap you. I am one of the most gentile spirits. You agreed to move to Ohio. I left Ohio after YOU broke up with me (when you ceased consenting, i left). Then you stayed in Ohio for an additional SIX months, even though we broke up and i wasn't there, probably in some hope of yours to reconcile with me, or because you were ashamed to go back home to your dad after leaving him and looking like a fool. I destroyed your life? You destroyed it by believing blasphemous lies and convincing me to lower my sexual standards. I had believed sex of all kinds was wrong except genital to genital only. You corrupted and perverted my sexuality. You sought to worship me as God. YOU were demon possessed, not me. It was all you. You were the end of our marriage, when you chose to stop believing what we had both believed. You lost the will and desire to be in our marriage because you refused to communicate about our sexual problems, and because you rashly changed your beliefs without studying with me and giving my views a chance, you abandoned everything in the blink of an eye. That's why you lost your love in me, because you changed your beliefs. You will be punished by God for what you have said. This is the worst sin you have committed against me yet. How dare you.... You need to repent to God about your grudges and ill feelings and COMPLETE HATRED towards me. NEVER talk to me again, unless you first apologize for the evil you have just done towards me ever since we first became married, but most importantly the evil you have done today in accusing me of what you said. I can't believe it, i really can't. Its just so shocking and blasphemous for you to have said what you said to me in that comment. wow i really am blown away at that evil. Now good bye (i should say bad bye) and leave me alone. Never talk to me again. You got your wish; i have no desire to talk to you ever. Now get out of my life and go on living yours in your blasphemies. If you repent and wish to apologize to me, then we can become friends again. otherwise, i forbid you to ever speak to me again, miss.
you asked me to cut off your hair... again how dare you. ugh that is so disgusting. really evil of you to say those words to me.
you know better.
"Tag untag Andrew these are YOUR pics! Whar r u talking about. I really should take you to court for e everything. U took them and we tried to act the part!"
So you faked being happy in those pics? oh come on... you drove out voluntarily thousands of miles to see me. You had the biggest smile on your face, and you couldn't wipe it off. There was no faking on your part. You were the happiest woman in the world. Your son was so young, he wouldn't have even understood what "faking the part" even was. I have my entire family as witnesses that what you said in that comment is a lie. I have ALL our emails. i have some texts still. Do you really think you could win in a trial of false witness against me, simply because you have your dad as a lawyer? God will defend my cause. And if doesn't in this life, he would surely punish you for going to court to me in the next life because you know its false witness and complete lies against me. Read the story of Susanna. You are like those wicked elders, who lusted after Susanna, and then, when it didn't turn out the way they hoped, they made up all these false accusations against her and everything just to save face. They would rather destroy her life even though she is innocent, in order to comfort themselves. You also seek to destroy my life even though I am innocent of all the charges you maliciously speak against me. Seriously for the sake of your soul, you really need to repent of this. This is serious sin on your part. I thought you had improved. you have proven me wrong. you are getting worse and worse! making up lies and false accusations, to save face; you are in denial and you have to make up lies to justify yourself and your mistakes. why can't you just admit that you made a mistake for voluntarily choosing to love me way too quickly? that's all it was. two fools in love. What i'm still trying to figure out is which of us was the bigger fool. You accuse me of the Pharisees? You are just like the Pharisees. How can you be so blind to these evils? REPENT. That is my final say. I will no more talk to you. Unless you force me to by heaping further accusations against me, or if you seriously try to pursue baseless legal action against me, then i will be forced to talk to you. Spare us both that completely ridiculous crap; move on with your life. If you want to make up lies about me to yourself to justify yourself before God, go right ahead, but it will NOT fool me or God. You will be judged for it. So go right ahead and lie about me, just keep it to yourself and move on with your life and live a life of selfdenial and illusion. That way, we can both move on from each other for good. Seriously i don't want to be a part of your life anymore, so just stop. Stop it all. Be content with pushing me away form you. Be content with hating me for things i did not do. be content for hating me for your own faults and failures and mistakes. Be content with destroying our love and family. be content with ruining our friendship. Be content with causing me not to love you anymore; i was continuing to love you, even after you told me not to talk to you again. But you have reached a final point of no return; i could never love you ever again. I love the former you. The one that was beautiful and lovely in heart. That woman (your past) is dead, and you killed her. Shame on you for murdering your own soul. I will always love Ariel. I will never love (my ex's real name). I despise her as evil, false, a traitor, and above all else a blasphemer and a hateful liar and fiend. Maybe you need to get some freedom encounters stuff again; you are probably demon possessed right now. thats the only way to explain how complete of a lying bitch you are being. it truly baffles me.
12/12/2012 10:47PM
Andrew
the picture you commented in, i made private. i have not deleted your comments however. My dad told me that I could actually take you to court for defamation of character (aka slander) or libel or whatever you call it. If you attempt to do any legal action, i will counter sue. But if you don't sue me, even though I could sue you for making those public comments in defamation of my character, I will not do so, because i am not mean like you. So i want you to know i really have the superior case; all the evidence points to you being a liar. So don't dare try to take me to court to punish me for crimes i did not commit.
12/13/2012 12:56AM
(My ex)
Really psycho. Take me
Andrew
do you really believe what you said? have you really convinced yourself that i raped you and kidnapped you and your son? how can you honestly believe that after all we were through together?
*My ex)
U are dellusional and think you are the only one going to heaven. Does your dad even read your profile. Apparently if he has he is delusional too. Leave me alone. I have told you to get stuff off the internet for how many years? U need help.
Andrew
my dad is concerned for my salvation. he doesn't read it; he knows what i believe, i tell him a good chunk of it, and he strongly disagrees with me,but believes i will return to Christianity someday. that is his hope. but that is not the point. i love my dad and he loves me. and my family and friends love me and they would do everything in their power to protect me from enemies. my beliefs don't have anything to do with the accusations you made against me. whether or not i am going to be saved has nothing to do with what you accused me of. leave you alone? you are the one who contacted me and said you were going to take me to court. i have stopped contacting you a long time ago. you initiated the contact again. maybe i need help, but at least i do not hate you like you do me. i have not felt any love or concern from you. you said you pray for me. do you still do that? if you still care about me, i could not tell for a long time now. i don't remember you saying to take the photos down. and i thought i made all the photos i had of you private. i didnt' realize i had photos of you still there. it was unintentional. can you please take back what you said about the rape and kidnapping thing? unless you really believe that. but how could you believe such a horrible thing about me? dont you remember that we were in love? i wasn't trying to force you ror anything. everything was beautiful in the beginning, don't you remember?
(My Ex)
I'm not responding to ur messages anymore. In the Name of Jesus Christ of Nazareth who came in the flesh I declare freedom from every exponential demonic/ fallen angel/ human/ device curse tie spell and contract associated with Andrew Carlson regarding my son and myself. I hereby declare eternal freedom from all wickedness and may Holy Angels of Heaven arrest all originals backups and replacements t From lowest to highest ranking authority to the Heavenly throne room of almighty God. May their orders concerning us be cancelled forever. No replacements may be sent in their places. I cover ever picture Andrew Carlson or any other human being has of me and of my son with the eternal protecting blood of the Lord Jesus Christ of Nazareth who came in the flesh. No astral travelling ritual nor any ritual, curse spell, or anything else know to the throneroom of God may ever be used against us. This declaration is hereby sealed with the blood of Jesus Christ of Nazareth who came in thd flesh. It may never be annulled or broken by anyone except the one true Lord Jesus Christ of Nazareth who came in the flesh or Father God or The Holy Spirit of God. I hereby call extra angels of protection assigned to me and my son regarding any residual effects of SRA or associated forms of abuse from birth on. May every part of us be freed, released and sanctified by the blood of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ of Nazareth who came in the flesh . May they be given complete authority to release any firm of abuse or oppression or wickedness on ant level from myself and my son as often and as much as needed until our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ of Nazareth who came in the flesh returns. May His angels keep us lest in every way. May the Holy Spirit replace within my son and I His Spirit where anything else once dwelt. May our minds be renewed and only truth in our inward parts. May angels of God place daily helmets of Salvation, breastplates of righteousness, shoes of peace, belts of truth and the sword of the Spirit which is the word of God, on and given to me and my son as often as they chose, may they be allowed to chose which of thd heavenly elements to be placed as often as they want, in the authority given to them by the one true Lord Jesus Christ of Nazareth who came in the flesh. May the angels of God be given authority to sever off soul ties and tags and any for of evil they see come upon or have intentions of coming upon me and my son and may Jesus Christ of Nazareth who came in the flesh tell them where to put them. May Angels of God have authority to stop any human in or out of the body from doing any evil to me or my son as often as needed. May all dreams, visions, thoughts and intentions conscious or subconscious be given over to thd protection of the Holy Angels of Heaven. May Jesus give me and my son into the continued protection of His righteous angels. All of these things are sealed and asked for and when appropriate commanded to be in the Name of The One True Lord Jesus Christ of Nazareth Who Came In The Flesh. Amein and Amein. If at any time Andrew Carlson wants to be included in this prayer may he simply ask God.
Andrew
you are welcome to be my friend again someday and you are welcome to ask for forgiveness from me and God in regards to any sins you have committed against me which you have not yet repented of. goodbye. oh and thanks for including me in the end of the prayer. shows you don't 100% hate me.
(my Ex)
May all words written and or spoken by me or my son be covered with the blood of the Lord Jesus Christ of Nazareth who came in thd flesh. I ask forgiveness for any word of son or thought of sin in Jesus's Mighty Name. May any judgements concerning me or my son be cancelled forever. May Satan have no power in any area in our lives. My son and I are under the blood of The One True Lord Jesus Christ of Nazareth who came in thd flesh forever and ever Amein and Amein. Again if at anytime Andrew would like to be included in these prayers and decorations may he be. I ask forgiveness for idolatry in every form for myself and my Son. May these things too be covered with the Blood of you Son oh God. In Jesus's Mighty Name. Amein and Amein Goodbye Andrew
(God please correct the errors in the typ as it it received unto you Amein.)
(My Ex)
Andrew you raped me spiritually but I forgive you. You kidnapped me with manipulation and you oppression. I forgive you. This is true. I am free of you . Goodbye, and I have already said my apologies to you and you already recieved them. Goodbye and Yes I do pray for you. Looks like God heard them because you finally came out of thd polygamy lie. Peace to you
Andrew
yes I did change my belief about polygamy
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just last weekend.
glad you are praying for me still. someday i'd like you to be strong enough to be my friend again. But if you want to be free of me, that is your choice; you are free to change that at any time.
take care; im always here as friend if you need. I was very surprised you sent me a message shortly after i stopped believing in polygamy. Is this a coincidence? i don't know, but its interesting nonetheless.
For me, I have let go of you already; you wanted me out of your life, and I finally was able to let you go. But then you had to contact me again this week. Is there some part of you that wishes to talk to me still; is that partially why you contacted me? If so, then i am one click away
talk to you later, or never, whichever you prefer
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(My ex)
I just want me off of your stuff Andrew it's very simple. My son and I out of your life. Move fwd
Andrew
okay. well i'm sorry i had them still on for people to see, i thought i had taken them away long ago.don't worry i am free from you now; i no longer am overly desiring to be reconciled as your friend. I am content with you not being my friend. So i have moved on
. but if i had preference, i'd be your friend. But i no longer crave it, as i don't need it anymore. All i need is God. I will always have the memories though. And that's why i still treasure the pictures in my yahoo email and on my computer, because of the memories of our former friendship.
again, i am here. maybe if i emphasize that enough you will open your heart towards me one day and be friend again. Until that day, I will leave you alone as I had been doing already until you sent me this message this week. unless you contact me again, then i will respond. otherwise, as long as you don't respond back to me, i will not send you a message. bye.
(My ex)
Take them all off thanks
Andrew
so to clarify, you want me to take them all off even though they are private and always will be, but don't care if i have them in my own private collection in yahoo email? does im not going to delete my own yahoo email collection if that's what you are asking of me.
cuz*
(My ex)
Yes. I'd rather u delete off yahoo but offline from facebook it sufficient
Andrew
so if i remove them, then we will go on with out lives, never to talk to each other again? maybe if i understand your reasons why you don't want it on facebook, then i would be more complying. is it because you don't trust the facebook people with content people upload, even the private ones?
(My ex)
Exactly
Facebook is not to be trusted
Andrew
okay. well if i do, its going to be tomorrow, or latest before this week's sabbath. its really late over here. im too tired to make sure i have backup copies tonight. how will you know i have deleted them? you would trust me if i said i removed them? you trust in my sincerity and honesty and integrity to trust if i were to say to you that i have removed them from facebook entirely, including the ones that are private? after believing i have manipulated you and oppressed you and forced/deceived/tricked/raped you, would you trust my word if i said i have done as you asked? if you can honestly say yes, then i will tell you that i have removed them as you asked. and whether you want to believe i have done so is up to you.
good night. if i delete them it will be tomorrow or the next day. but only after you answer this question first. i will see your answer tomorrow. im shutting down comp now.
(My Ex)
I don't respond to manipulative comments goodbye and please delete
They aren't letting u post comments because I reported you like I said. Next they'll take mote options away probably. Goodbye Andrew. Delete the pics
It was done last night. Goodbye
Also I hate to discourage this from him but I really have to point out that it is absolutely hysterical that he requested a thread takedown, then offered to pay for a thread takedown, then tried to use threads to coerce a thread takedown, and now he is back to powerleveling like mad here with horrifying intimate details that make him look terrible.
I already said that i wanted the thread taken down for the sake of Tamar. I could go on and on about my problems, I don't care. It doesn't matter if I make myself look bad, she just doesn't want her name associated with mine on the internet. But if its going to be associated then there's nothing I can do about it and might as well share about me the facts.
There's so much good material in that post...too much to comment on all of it, so I'll just ask about this:
Do you consider yourself so good in bed that having sex with you would have that effect on women? Didn't you say you only had sex like five times?
No I just figure some women really want money and if desperate they'd be willing to do things for money that they otherwise would not do if they had money and weren't desperate.
Oh my fucking god, of course it was goddamn Spokane.
Why what's wrong with spokane? what kind of crazy stuff has happened there?
