Lolcow Andrew Peter Carlson / Anaiah Carlson / Tamarlover / Xtamarlover - Jewish/Christian Wannabe Cult Leader, Stalker, Ugly af, dogfucker, mayor of spitsville

[Anaiah Carlson]

So you weren't hoping to romance her, but rather to be able to repeatedly take advantage of her financial desperation to get her to grudgingly have sex with and enter into a loveless relationship with you for money? Do you not even care if she's repulsed by you so long as you can fuck her?

Once again you are totally contradicting yourself because previously you said that you hoped sleeping with her would make her "fall in love" with you.

What I'm saying is if she only cares about money, perhaps I could use that as a basis to get her to fall in love with me eventually. It could start off as only her taking advantage of me. But eventually it could become love. I'd rather us be friends and fall in love that way, but if I have to buy her to be my wife or partner first and only later she falls in love that is an option to consider. I am crazy for Tamar. I must have her if at all possible. I will not pursue her during the protective order or when she is married. When she is single, I will still be wanting to be with her until the day I die, unless I find some other woman to fall in love with.

 

[repentance]

Fuuuuuuuck. What a pity your ex didn't see fit to warn Tamar about you.

 

[Cato]

It could start off as only her taking advantage of me.

Wait a minute, you think that paying a woman who doesn't want to have sex with you to have sex with you anyways out of financial desperation (this is YOUR exact characterization of this hypothetical situation) would be appropriately characterized as HER exploiting YOU?

 

[Broken Pussy]

I will still be wanting to be with her until the day I die, unless I find some other woman to fall in love with.

Has it occurred to you that putting all your efforts into obsessing over Tamar may be what's keeping you from finding some other woman to fall in love with? Women willing to deal with your kind of crazy don't just grow on trees.

 

[Cato]

Women willing to deal with your kind of crazy don't just grow on trees.

Seriously, the fact that this guy got laid means that there is hope for incels everywhere.

(Let's just assume he got laid *consensually* for the point I'm trying to make here...)

 

[Anaiah Carlson]

Wow, I keep thinking this can't get worse and I keep getting proven wrong.

Except almost everything she said is false. Whereas almost everything Tamar says about me is true, almost everything my ex says about me is false. If you could see in my brain my memories, you would know I'm telling the truth that the relationship with my ex according how I remember it is much much much more accurate than how my ex remembers it, and that my ex twisted everything to make me look as bad as possible.

My case is similar to the following example. Imagine you have a person who its proven he murdered someone. Well then all of a sudden someone makes an accusation that 10 years before that they murdered someone else. Since its been proven the person murdered someone years later, people will have a bias against him and be more likely to think he murdered someone 10 years before that even if he didn't. The same applies in my case regarding the actions I've done to Tamar and my ex. Whereas I have done some pretty horrible and messed up things to Tamar and I probably deserve this protective order, I never did anything to my ex that was illegal and I never abused her in the way that she claims. But people have a bias against me because of my actions regarding Tamar so they might automatically assume I am also guilty of the horrible things my ex accuses me of. But if anyone had access to my memory or talked to witnesses, or had access to my facebook conversations and texts and such, they would know my ex's claims are false.

 

[repentance]

Why were you still in contact with your ex in 2012 and why did you contact her recently?

You also said there was a male friend with whom you became obsessed. Care to share any of the exchanges with him?

 

[Anaiah Carlson]

Wait a minute, you think that paying a woman who doesn't want to have sex with you to have sex with you anyways out of financial desperation (this is YOUR exact characterization of this hypothetical situation) would be appropriately characterized as HER exploiting YOU?

If she only wants to use me for money, I'm willing to do that if I could be with her. Paying her for a sexual relationship wouldn't be using her because I'd be doing it for love rather than physical pleasure.

Why were you still in contact with your ex in 2012 and why did you contact her recently?

In 2012, I had stopped talking with my ex. I still hoped to be her friend one day but I hadn't messaged her for a long time. Then I met Tamar and decided she would be my ex's replacement in my heart. Right around that time, my ex messages me out of nowhere and demands me to take down her pictures and accuses me of raping her. After that time, I have periodically messaged my ex on a rare basis, seeing if there is any hope of changing her mind about me or being friends with her. Its gone bad every time I attempted to talk with her. I wasn't talking to my ex for a long time, but last month I was feeling desperate and lonely unable to contact Tamar due to the protective order, so I sent my ex a message instead even though I knew it probably wouldn't go well. I just wanted to talk with her again and try again to be her friend and make peace with her.

Why were you still in contact with your ex in 2012 and why did you contact her recently?

You also said there was a male friend with whom you became obsessed. Care to share any of the exchanges with him?

I don't think I have any exchanges with him preserved. Just some poems I wrote about him though lol.

Seriously, the fact that this guy got laid means that there is hope for incels everywhere.

(Let's just assume he got laid *consensually* for the point I'm trying to make here...)

It'd be so easy to get laid if that's all I cared about. Its not that hard if you lower your standards. And even if I lowered my standards a lot I could still get attractive women. Deception, charm, sweetness, and money. Thats all you need and you'll be able to get laid pretty easy.

 

[BillionBisonBucks]

If you could see in my brain my memories, you would know I'm telling the truth

I don't doubt for a second that in your memory, you're blameless. Too bad memory is famously unreliable.

Do you understand? A mentally ill person (you) is typically unable to realize they are sick, unless they accept that their own thoughts are lies.

Your own thoughts are lies, Andrew.

 

[sgetti]

I was going to explain to you that a large part of the reason we're convinced you're mentally ill (besides the whole stalking thing, of course) is because you go back and forth on Tamar/Melinda/whateverthefuck. One minute you're proclaiming your undying love for her to the heavens and back, the next you're calling her a manipulative deceptive person who's the source of all your problems.

Then I realized you don't actually think manipulation and deception are bad things, which is a whole new problem in and of itself.

Deception, charm, sweetness, and money. Thats all you need and you'll be able to get laid pretty easy.

One out of four is a failing grade bro

 

[redcent]

It'd be so easy to get laid if that's all I cared about. Its not that hard if you lower your standards. And even if I lowered my standards a lot I could still get attractive women. Deception, charm, sweetness, and money. Thats all you need and you'll be able to get laid pretty easy.

Wow. Your opinion of women are so high /sarcasm

If you are so eager to get laid how are you any better than a woman who "whores herself" or a prostitute?

If you have a woman who is holding a restraining order against you and refuses to be with you no matter how much money you say you'd give her, or what deception or charm you *think* you have, why would you still have this belief?

Do you really think, after all you have said and done in this thread, you will ever, ever get a girlfriend or wife ever again? I think you have set yourself up to be single for the rest of your life at this point.

 

[Anaiah Carlson]

Has it occurred to you that putting all your efforts into obsessing over Tamar may be what's keeping you from finding some other woman to fall in love with? Women willing to deal with your kind of crazy don't just grow on trees.

Its hard to know. I've considered that before. That would be sad if i care so much about Tamar and obsess over her that i miss someone much better and more worthy than her. But I can't know what i don't know. So I only operate based on what I know. And what I know is Tamar is the most desirable woman to me I've ever met and she is more valuable than anyone I know so far at least to me.

I don't doubt for a second that in your memory, you're blameless. Too bad memory is famously unreliable.

Do you understand? A mentally ill person (you) is typically unable to realize they are sick, unless they accept that their own thoughts are lies.

Your own thoughts are lies, Andrew.

I'm not the mentally ill person in the sense that you characterize me as. If you were to have professionals look me over, they would diagnose me with autism. They would not diagnose me with psychopathy or any other crazy illnesses. Unless the evidence was clearly there. And you are not mental experts and you only see what you want to see. Whereas the mental experts would be much less biased than you so their understanding would be way more reliable than yours. And I am quite confident they would not reach the same conclusions about my mental condition. You can't tell me that the messages with my ex I have didn't happen. So, anything my ex says or anything someone unfamiliar with the full situation says about my former relationship, I can compare it to the messages we have and use that as a gauge to test whether what she is saying is accurate or not. I also have my parents and other people as witnesses. Everyone involved intimately with what happened can be interviewed and shown that my side is the one more in line with reality than my ex's and that it is my ex who has the mental illness and who is out of touch with reality, not me.

My memory is very good and although its not perfect its very reliable and far superior to my ex's. It is also sufficient enough to know when Tamar is getting the details and facts wrong about me.

 

[AnOminous]

I'm not the mentally ill person in the sense that you characterize me as. If you were to have professionals look me over, they would diagnose me with autism.

Then that means that despite not having any mental illness as an excuse, you've stalked someone for years. That makes you an outright criminal, not even an insane person who should be excused.

 

[Anaiah Carlson]

Wow. Your opinion of women are so high /sarcasm

If you are so eager to get laid how are you any better than a woman who "whores herself" or a prostitute?

If you have a woman who is holding a restraining order against you and refuses to be with you no matter how much money you say you'd give her, or what deception or charm you *think* you have, why would you still have this belief?

Do you really think, after all you have said and done in this thread, you will ever, ever get a girlfriend or wife ever again? I think you have set yourself up to be single for the rest of your life at this point.

That's the point I am not so eager to get laid. If I could then it would be easy. I was simply making a point that he was acting like me getting laid was somehow a miracle. I know how to get what I want, as I said, so long as the person is vulnerable enough.

Tamar is not a normal woman. That's what makes me want her so much and not go after any other women.

This thread will not stop me from getting a girlfriend or wife ever. You are mistaken. Its not that hard to get a girlfriend or wife if you know where to look and how to look, and I do. I know where and how to look if I wanted, I simply don't want anyone else. But if I did, I can get them. I'm not saying I can get any woman I want, because I am realistic and obviously I can't. Some women are way beyond my ability to ever get to be with me. But there will be no problem for me finding women if I really want a woman. I'm not just looking to get laid though I'm looking for a woman that's worth pursuing. Tamar is the only woman I have found who is worth pursuing right now. Now maybe someone else I know or someone else I don't know I will decide is worth pursuing. But at this time no one has yet rose to that level. I set my prize of the highest woman I believe I can get. Tamar is a woman I believe I can get and is the highest woman I've ever met. So I want her, and I won't give up until she's mine one day or until I find some other woman that's better than her. I'm just going to wait until after the protective order and until she's single to try again to be with Tamar. I'm very patient and will continue waiting years and years to be with her if I have to

 

[Ti-99/4A]

I know how to get what I want, as I said, so long as the person is vulnerable enough.

Thanks for admitting that you're also a sociopath.

 

[Anaiah Carlson]

Then that means that despite not having any mental illness as an excuse, you've stalked someone for years. That makes you an outright criminal, not even an insane person who should be excused.

I was not charged with a crime, so unless I am charged with an actual crime, I will maintain my innocence. I deserved the protective order. But I do not deserve the criminal label of stalker. Which is why I was not yet arrested for stalking because it didn't get bad enough to arrest me for criminal stalking yet.

 

[Broken Pussy]

Except almost everything she said is false. Whereas almost everything Tamar says about me is true, almost everything my ex says about me is false. If you could see in my brain my memories, you would know I'm telling the truth that the relationship with my ex according how I remember it is much much much more accurate than how my ex remembers it, and that my ex twisted everything to make me look as bad as possible.

My case is similar to the following example. Imagine you have a person who its proven he murdered someone. Well then all of a sudden someone makes an accusation that 10 years before that they murdered someone else. Since its been proven the person murdered someone years later, people will have a bias against him and be more likely to think he murdered someone 10 years before that even if he didn't. The same applies in my case regarding the actions I've done to Tamar and my ex. Whereas I have done some pretty horrible and messed up things to Tamar and I probably deserve this protective order, I never did anything to my ex that was illegal and I never abused her in the way that she claims. But people have a bias against me because of my actions regarding Tamar so they might automatically assume I am also guilty of the horrible things my ex accuses me of. But if anyone had access to my memory or talked to witnesses, or had access to my facebook conversations and texts and such, they would know my ex's claims are false.

You're actually not terribly off-base on this one. It's why testimony of prior bad acts is considered prejudicial and inadmissible during a criminal trial, generally.

 

[pickledance]

That's the point I am not so eager to get laid. If I could then it would be easy. I was simply making a point that he was acting like me getting laid was somehow a miracle. I know how to get what I want, as I said, so long as the person is vulnerable enough.

Tamar is not a normal woman. That's what makes me want her so much and not go after any other women.

This thread will not stop me from getting a girlfriend or wife ever. You are mistaken. Its not that hard to get a girlfriend or wife if you know where to look and how to look, and I do. I know where and how to look if I wanted, I simply don't want anyone else. But if I did, I can get them. I'm not saying I can get any woman I want, because I am realistic and obviously I can't. Some women are way beyond my ability to ever get to be with me. But there will be no problem for me finding women if I really want a woman. I'm not just looking to get laid though I'm looking for a woman that's worth pursuing. Tamar is the only woman I have found who is worth pursuing right now. Now maybe someone else I know or someone else I don't know I will decide is worth pursuing. But at this time no one has yet rose to that level. I set my prize of the highest woman I believe I can get. Tamar is a woman I believe I can get and is the highest woman I've ever met. So I want her, and I won't give up until she's mine one day or until I find some other woman that's better than her. I'm just going to wait until after the protective order and until she's single to try again to be with Tamar. I'm very patient and will continue waiting years and years to be with her if I have to

The highest woman I believe you can get is your own hand and only because it can't physically leave.

 

[Hanamura]

I don't think I have any exchanges with him preserved. Just some poems I wrote about him though lol.

lol gay

 

[redcent]

That's the point I am not so eager to get laid. If I could then it would be easy. I was simply making a point that he was acting like me getting laid was somehow a miracle. I know how to get what I want, as I said, so long as the person is vulnerable enough.

Tamar is not a normal woman. That's what makes me want her so much and not go after any other women.

Is this why you go after single mothers? because they are "vunerable?"

This thread will not stop me from getting a girlfriend or wife ever. You are mistaken. Its not that hard to get a girlfriend or wife if you know where to look and how to look, and I do. I know where and how to look if I wanted, I simply don't want anyone else. But if I did, I can get them. I'm not saying I can get any woman I want, because I am realistic and obviously I can't. Some women are way beyond my ability to ever get to be with me. But there will be no problem for me finding women if I really want a woman. I'm not just looking to get laid though I'm looking for a woman that's worth pursuing. Tamar is the only woman I have found who is worth pursuing right now. Now maybe someone else I know or someone else I don't know I will decide is worth pursuing. But at this time no one has yet rose to that level. I set my prize of the highest woman I believe I can get. Tamar is a woman I believe I can get and is the highest woman I've ever met. So I want her, and I won't give up until she's mine one day or until I find some other woman that's better than her. I'm just going to wait until after the protective order and until she's single to try again to be with Tamar. I'm very patient and will continue waiting years and years to be with her if I have to

LOL wanna bet?

Is there any reason for why any concerned bystander shouldn't warn whatever woman you try hitting on from henceforth what as sick fuck you are, as detailed in this thread?