James Lindsay and The Theosophist Hunters - Minor politcow multiclasses in Schizocow. Reddit Athesist Defender of Catholicism, angel unsummoner, target of CIA psyops.

[None More Black]

@None More Black mad an excellent summary, however I feel he understates the absolute level to which Auron MacIntyre lives rent free in his head. James seems to think that Auron is literally a fake man (he apparently does use a stage name, in fairness) who was propped up specifically to counter James.

James essentially declares Auron his arch enemy. It's pretty difficult to over state how wild this is if your familiar with Auron at all. He's not some neo-Nazi radical and isn't even really a "Christian nationalist", he works for Glenn Beck, for crying out loud. He is sincerely Christian, so I guess it shows what the "woke right" thing is really about.

He is convinced Auron isn't real and only exists to counter him. He's insane.

 

[aguywatchingitallburn]

If it's not mania, it's stimulant abuse. If you know, you know, and there's no mistaking it. The pace, the content, the obsessive repetition- extremely recognizable.

Wow... I think you nailed it. I've noticed his Twitter activity has been quite manic for a while now. He blocked me after I said to him "maybe take a break, you are on Twitter a lot"

 

[tehpope]

He did it again.

 

[None More Black]

He did it again.

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I'm only two minutes in and he again redefines the retarded term and specifies "it only applies to people claiming to be Christian" but he's called atheists, "spiritual people" and orthodox jews "woke right" -- and not for nothing but the fast food chain Arby's

edit:
"It's a revolutionary political coup in roughly three or four stages. 1. the consolidation of elite power to direct the party, 2. the consolidation of MAGA under their rule, 3. seizing control of american conservative politics, and 4. seizing control of american political power"

so, again, he just doesn't want right wingers having any political power whatsoever cause he's a shitlib, that's it

edit 2: he directly compares Schmitt's friend/enemy distinction to Marxian oppressor/oppressed conflict theory lmfao, what a clown

edit 3: he again badly mispronounces German (which he cannot read nor speak nor understand) to try to tie "Deutschland, erwache!" to Nazis being woke

edit 4: it's important to stress that this is just an empty epithet, no different from calling someone bad, nazi, fascist, racism, bigot, etc.



the entire point of coining and pushing the term "wokish" is to tie it to the term Völkisch, it's just a totally retarded way to try to point out that everyone that isn't an Obama voter is a bad nazi

but trust me guys, james totally isn't just a generic faggot leftist/libtard and we should all listen to him about how bad we all are for not wanting our wives to live around blacks or whatever

edit 5: it's also important to point out how factually just none of this horseshoe theory type argumentation works at all when universities and businesses have been and are actively being sued for blatant discrimination against asians, whites, etc.

he keeps arguing that "woke right" believe they're being "oppressed" by magical "systems" and it's a "big conspiracy theory they all cultish like believe in" even though the supreme court has ruled on cases involving this in favor of so-called "woke rights" lmfao just absurd



i guess cases such as this are just a figment of "woke right's" imagination? total fucking clownshow shit, i hate this guy.

 

[Eduardodelvasquez]

Milo publishes an entire book of poetry just to dunk on James Lindsay. I wonder what he did to piss these people off so badly, not that it takes much to provoke this catty homosexual.

 

[None More Black]

so do we have an actual autopsy on what exactly made Milo go after James? this seems to have come out of nowhere.

 

[Super Hans v2]

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so do we have an actual autopsy on what exactly made Milo go after James? this seems to have come out of nowhere.

Does a catty faggot ever need a reason to start a fight?

But it's probably because he sees an opportunity to gain more than zero relevance by aping his sometimes friend Vox Day when he wrote Jordanetics.

 

[Welcome To Mars]

Have we seen any evidence of him being "Interested" in his step daughter? Milo seems pretty sure of it.

 

[Sammich]

Have we seen any evidence of him being "Interested" in his step daughter? Milo seems pretty sure of it.

Milo is an absolute bomb thrower, he doesn't give a single shit about the accuracy, he's just lobbing these motherfuckers at people.

 

[None More Black]

This fucking retard is absolutely insane

Why would I defend him?

He has zero (literally) "conservative" values

He is just a faggot fucking leftist. Can anyone name one "right wing" value he holds? obviously not

the entire concept is ridiculous

 

[w.a.m.s.]

Sample of Stepdaddy's ToC on the Amazon webstore (a):

The only pages visible in the sample are the cover, the title page, and the foreword (seems identical to the product description).

Would rather not buy it (based on the table of contents alone I don't want there being a record that I purchased it), but Kiwis with KindleUnlimited read for free.

 

[Cnidarian]

He is just a faggot fucking leftist. Can anyone name one "right wing" value he holds? obviously not

Stubborn submission to authority and opposition to any form of change.

 

[Rainbow Child]

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This fucking retard is absolutely insane

Why would I defend him?

He has zero (literally) "conservative" values

He is just a faggot fucking leftist. Can anyone name one "right wing" value he holds? obviously not

the entire concept is ridiculous

Oh you mean the guys you've been cockblocking since 2016? I wonder why, Jim. Chickens, welcome to the roost.

To be fair to the mathematician cum Frankfurt School motivated reader cum massage therapist slash chigong yogi:

He really does think that liberals are conservatives as long as what they were conserving is the liberalism of 1945. He can't really comprehend any sort of restorationism that's not framed in Frankfurt terms like "reactionary" or "nostalgia"; so he's probably deeply wounded that his con-gay-invitro-servative parasocials aren't joining him in an I'M SPARTACUS moment to keep America trans (but not that trans).

 

[Marcuseh]

Lindsay literally posting L's.

https://twitter.com/ConceptualJames/status/1931758846365601874

 

[Rainbow Child]

On the Forced Meme of the Woke Right​

or How Reddit Atheism Made Belief in God Stronger & Will Make Restorationism Too​

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TRADITION AS A UNIT OF PROGRESS​

Let us consider the memeplex of progress, progressive, progressivism in the same way that we consider right, direct, and straight. Within the metaphor is baked a directionality; whereas to be right, direct, or straight, is to be not left, (di/per/etc)verted, nor crooked, so too to pro-gress is to move forth, not to re-gress backwards, en-gress inwards, e-gress outwards, but to pro-gress forwards. Considering this, then, tradition, that is patrimony, that is inheritance, is a unit of progress. Each generation develops the tradition, or maybe a development takes many generations, but traditions are learning experiences passed down as a head-start to the next generation so that inventions don't need to be re-dis-cover-ed fresh every twenty years; and as each generation builds on the headstarts that it's received preparing the next generation to develop even better than we did, that's progress, that's moving forth.

The post-war consensus has been that tradition is the nostalgia of an authoritarian personality. That progress is the abandoning of inheritance to replace it with something so much better. Of course, the adage, "nothing new is under the sun" would be one of those nostalgic inheritances thrown away, so the irony of the re-inventors (at best) and the pre-ventors (more observedly) is totally left unappreciated within that consensus.

And speaking of con-sensus, the superficial imitation of critique here will of course be cONSpIRacY TheORy when we speak about a post-war consensus. But these are the illiterati outclassing us with their luxurious mutilation of the inherited English tongue. Con-spiracy, is merely to hope (spes) what con-fidence is to faith (fides); so if you can imagine confidence in someone then you can imagine conspiracy with someone, and your brain shouldn't blue screen, unless you're affecting. Con-sensus, con-fidence, con-spiracy; let's not be so smug about being so impoverished of tongue.

r/Atheism, New Atheism, and the Harsh Darwinian Selection Pressures on Novelty and Innovation​

Fidora-tipping atheists, before they kicked us off the Internet circa 2016 for meming a frog into the White House, were kicking a lot of ass philosophically against the mutilated generation who inherited the defence of their shared faith. This is where James Lindsay comes in; we better bold that text so the mods can see that we're on topic.

With a kind of caustic mockery that spoke to the ethos of Generation X, Internet atheists, pwnd the worst catechised generation in history, forcing them to re-invent all the arguments that their ancestors had won two epochs ago.

Before they learned to wield the blade, they were wielding the blade of their intellect.
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But this was Darwinian selection pressure. And the now unfit mutants who had evolved a novelty to best survive in a geologically significant post-war consensus were killed off by the consensus predators. So now only the elephant backed Thomas Aquinases are left, and the mighty tyrannosaurus of r/atheism has evolved into the harmless domesticated chickens.

Atheism is gay and trans and anything else you'll believe when you believe in nothing.

But restorationism, the memetic offspring of the survivors of the defenders of the faith, is virile and potent. So the post-war consensus is competing against its cultural extinction. All this work to destroy the progressive inheritance of the Latin West; and the restorationists just might undo the New Consensus in a geological blink of an eye. And so the Enlightened Atheist is trying to salvage his conquest. Con-quest, con-spiracy.

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ENTER THE WOKE RIGHT​

If predators evolve claws, fangs, or camouflage, then the Woke Right is a type of that. For the common hope! For the con-spiracy! For the Post-War Consensus! Tradition will be destroyed! Everything will be reinvented! We killed the kings so that we could become kings! We won't be relegated to a geological footnote of novelty! Lol, looks like you will, though.

Looks like Woke Right is your attempt to force-meme a replacement for The Religious Right.

Who's the nostalgic one now?

If you liked this schizo-post and would like to see more of them, well too bad because inspiration just hit this time around, so don't get used to it. And if it's too close to double-posting, well just know that I couldn't edit my newest post as you give this second one a neg-sticker.​

 

[Joshua Connor Tomar]

I can't believe this faggot gave up the axe for the blade. That must be why he's gay and Jewish now.

 

[Solid Snek]

Had no idea James had a thread here, but I'm not surprised. He's a distinct blend of hilarious, tragic, and insufferable, sort of like Tarl but without the fashion sense and cool thaumaturgy powers, and for the last year or two it's been increasingly clear where his story arc is headed. I'm guessing he's going to get a boost, what with Iran and this latest "MAGA Civil War" between Zionist neocons and everybody else, and while he can talk your ear off a la Jordan Peterson when it's just him and a free space to lecture, he does NOT handle confrontation well. He's got two modes: longwinded pretentious lecture, and shortwinded ad hominem snark, with the one he picks at any given moment largely depending on whether he feels he's getting pushback or not.

So even if the "woke right" forcememe continues to fail, I do expect him to produce some funny chimpouts in the near future.

(I missed the Arby's Saga when it happened, and I hope I don't miss the next one!)

he keeps arguing that "woke right" believe they're being "oppressed" by magical "systems" and it's a "big conspiracy theory they all cultish like believe in" even though the supreme court has ruled on cases involving this in favor of so-called "woke rights" lmfao just absurd

Two things you have to understand:

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First, a little bit before the "woke right" saga began, James got really into Gnosticism. I mean REALLY into Gnosticism. He started posting non-stop about gnostics and crytpo-gnostics, and how everything woke was really just the latest manifestation of an age old battle between gnostic cults on the one hand, and good, God-non-fearing boyos like himself on the other. His arguments were incredibly autistic, possibly even bordering on schizo, but this right here - the oppressive, magical system, conspiracy cult stuff - all stems from this (anti) Gnostic awakening of his.

I don't really save his posts, but the gist of it was that ever since Long Long Ago, gnostics - weird cult people who believe that the world is not what it appears to be, but is in fact an oppressive spiritual prison set up by a false god known as the Demiurge - were mucking about, trying to deny that the world was As It Appears. From this, James reasoned that Marxists - who believe they are oppressed and that the world is not as liberalism tells them it is - were in fact Gnostics. In a literal sense. He ran with this for months, growing more and more impassioned by it.

By extension, this becomes "everyone who believes they are oppressed and that the world is not as other people say it is, are Gnostics". The fact that belief in oppression and skepticism of what certain other people tell you is something which everyone asserts at one point or another (even James, who thinks he's being oppressed by Gnostics, and that the world is not what Gnostics tell him it is), went unnoticed and unheeded. Instead, it slowly became "well, everyone on the right who believes they are oppressed, and that the world is not as liberal TV show hosts tell them it is, why, THEY must be Gnostics too!"

Hence the birth of the "Woke Right" meme. They're "on the right", but they also "think the system is flawed, which means gnostic, which means woke".

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But second, and more importantly, James doesn't actually HAVE a definition for Woke Right, or at least not one which lasts more than a couple of podcasts. He's making it up as he goes along. As other people have pointed out, it's an emotive slur, like calling people "-phobes" or "Nazis" (increasingly, it's a DIRECT SYNONYM for calling people "Nazis"); he will apply it to whomever he feels is irritating him the most at the present moment.

Currently (by which I mean, as of the week or so I'm writing this), it's being used to refer to anyone who is not "a centrist", or more specifically, anyone who is neither a neocon, nor supports the state of Israel (Oct 7 was a major turning point for James, who is quite proud of having casually studied Hitler and the Third Reich, and is very much on board with the Shoah II Is Just Around the Corner school of thought). So, for example, everyone from Kanye to Thomas Massie to Tucker Carlson is "Woke Right", at least today, and all the people who weren't supporting the recent round of attacks on Iran (something like 85% of Trump's voting base)? Woke Rights, all of them.

I think the best way to understand the term, as it is used in practice by James, is just to mentally replace it with "Alt Right" (which became a similar term of disparagement following Trump's first win) every time James brings it up. Or even "Nazi", because that's literally the final boss of Woke Right in James' mind (he can't actually SAY "Nazi", though, because much of his early work online was devoted to deconstructing and mocking lefties who called everyone Nazis. James is a solid upper-midwit; maybe not a genius, but certainly more than intelligent enough to see that he can't both smear his enemies as Woke AND openly adopt "Woke language" to do so).*

It doesn't have a real, objective, logical meaning. It simply means "somebody James doesn't like today".



*which is extra ironic, given that James' belief in shadowy gnostic conspiracies, imminent Nazi takeovers, and the unique need for special rights and regulations that benefit certain oppressed minorities (Jews) but not others, up to and including smashing traditional rights, like the First Amendment protecting antisemitism, is itself pretty "Woke". The conspiracy theorist in ME tends to believe that James was smart enough to see where all his arguments were going to be heading, and thus came up with "Woke Right" as a way to pre-empt anyone from denouncing James as a woketard, too... but I could be over-estimating James' ability here.

 

[Computer God Autism]

but I could be over-estimating James' ability here.

Overestimation, imo. Lindsay's career was built off of criticizing his own side at a time when the right was desperate for any talking heads, he's a permanently embarrassed liberal who understands that his relevancy comes entirely from having people to the right of him listen to what he says.

 

[Rainbow Child]

Lindsay's career was built off of criticizing his own side at a time when the right was desperate for any talking heads

Lindsay requires a scapegoat for his rhetorical style to function.

First it was Christians. And the logical conclusions of his argumentation created Redditculture (aka Critical Social Justice).

Then it was the Level 2 Evolution of his golem (aka Woke).

And now he's grifting the very Christians he once scapegoated and even slapping the name of his own golem on the scapegoat, e.g. "Woke Right is Atheism+".

The conspiracy theorist in ME tends to believe that James was smart enough to see where all his arguments were going to be heading, and thus came up with "Woke Right" as a way to pre-empt anyone from denouncing James as a woketard, too...

That's the way I was seeing it too. It's like the Atheism+ thing. Like, Jim, you're responsible for Woke by being a Reddit Atheist. You created that. And you know that we'll say it, so you preempt it, so transparently, by calling your restorationist competition that very thing. It reminds me of a toddler with chocolate on his face saying that Daddy ate the chocolate cake.

LOL! Three days ago: "Communism is not Atheist", even.

 

[Solid Snek]

Lindsay requires a scapegoat for his rhetorical style to function.

First it was Christians. And the logical conclusions of his argumentation created Redditculture (aka Critical Social Justice).

Then it was the Level 2 Evolution of his golem (aka Woke).

And now he's grifting the very Christians he once scapegoated and even slapping the name of his own golem on the scapegoat, e.g. "Woke Right is Atheism+".


That's the way I was seeing it too. It's like the Atheism+ thing. Like, Jim, you're responsible for Woke by being a Reddit Atheist. You created that. And you know that we'll say it, so you preempt it, so transparently, by calling your restorationist competition that very thing. It reminds me of a toddler with chocolate on his face saying that Daddy ate the chocolate cake.

LOL! Three days ago: "Communism is not Atheist", even.

Yeah. His current shtick (blossoming into neoconservatism) requires him to appease Boomer Christians - the Ted Cruz's and Lindsay Grahams - but it's a fine line he has to walk, appealing to one brand of Christian while continuing to assert that "ACSHUALLY Christians were the REAL Communists all along!"

He wrote another tl;dr screed on twitter a few days ago, that's pretty illustrative of where his mind's at right now:

https://archive.is/dXsdf

Spoiler: Warning: long

On the misguided but (sometimes) well-intended attempt to do Woke Right containment by playing ball in their court to keep the youth from radicalizing further because no one else is reaching them otherwise:

There's an argument (and related activity) floating around that the Woke Right is, indeed, too radical, but they're flirting with big truths that no one else will go near. This gives them clout, and perhaps uniquely. Therefore, there's a need to pander to that space to deal with the Woke Right agitations responsibly and hopefully pull people back away from them. That is, being a good shepherd by being a little wolfish because the wolves seem to have a point.

Furthermore, there's a recognition that we've already significantly lost most young conservative men (and many young conservative women) to a Woke Right reaction, at least in light measure, and so they won't listen to anything that doesn't flatter that. That is, the sheep have already started listening to the wolves and don't want to hear from shepherds who don't at least speak wolfish, so we need to speak wolfish if we're going to reach them at all and keep them from falling into more radical hands.In both cases, though for slightly different reasons (arguments and consensus), the belief boils down to needing to play on Woke Right turf and in Woke Right framing in order to prevent more young conservatives from becoming radical Woke Right. It's better to meet them with moderate Woke Right-ness and help guide them back.

I get the impulse, but I don't think it will work. You cannot compromise with Woke. The laws of bad faith interaction and intolerant factions will beat you eventually if you try to play this game.

The first of these two arguments will necessarily assume Woke Right framing, which is ultimately Woke framing. Let me assure you of an Iron Law of Woke: if you adopt Woke framing, you will have no way to stop yourself from going Woke. None. The framing the Woke utilize in all cases is always the slippery slope into their den of resentment, envy, and destruction. Inside this framing, eventually the only interpretations that make sense are the Woke ones, and everything that doesn't go more Woke is doomed to be mere holding out on finishing the job.Since everything Woke turns to shit, adopting their framing even strategically or in part to be a "good shepherd" will turn you to shit. Full stop.You can actually see this happening if you watch Woke Right guys talking back in 2022 versus how they talk now in 2025 (I've been posting clips...). You can see them disagreeing with the precise radicalism they embrace now (racism, antisemitism, anti-Israel, conspiratorialism, victimhood, critical theory orientation, etc.), saying it's "obviously" too far, back in 2022. Now, it's "obviously" necessary and just a fact of the world. That's because there's no way to stop yourself from turning to shit inside the Woke turn-you-to-shit framing.

Woke (including Woke Right) is a worldview. It is not a collection of beliefs and attitudes you can just pick up or put down. It is a self-justifying and self-confirming way of seeing the world, and picking it up means starting to see the world that way. Once you go in, there's also no way out because anyone who tries to back out is just being some kind of lame hold-out, coward, cuck, neocon, Jewish, or whatever the "based" insult of the day happens to be.

Get it again: Woke framing is the slippery slope to Wokeness. The logic is that you have this diagnosis and thus solution through critique or seizing power which doesn't actually solve anything, and so when it doesn't work the only conclusion is that the critique wasn't deep enough and the power wasn't seized thoroughly enough, demanding more of both. This is why you see the slide from 2022 to 2025 in guys who took up this framing.It's also exactly what happened to the Left. You/we are not immune. If you adopt the worldview, you will slide or be consumed by those sliding faster than you are. Again, full stop.

The second of these two arguments concedes that we've effectively already lost the youth; i.e., that the Woke Right problem is far worse than anyone is ready to admit that it is (except, perhaps, me, and even I'm skeptical of that). It's a complete lack of faith in our young people and an embrace of the fatalism that has consumed them. We should be calling them back to faith, reason, and order rather than encouraging their frustrations or leading them to adopt Woke framing as a half-measure, as described above.

If it is the case that the MAGA youth already won't listen, just like the Left won't listen, then they need to be left behind until they grow up. They need opportunities to leave these youthful dalliances behind, ample promises of forgiveness, and yet should be given no quarter for their radicalism whatsoever in anything they desire to be a part of. If they want to bog themselves down in going "Full Fuentes," advise them against it, tell them you're here when they repent of that error, and let them.I counsel the same thing for dealing with many teenage and late adolescent errors many people commit. A lot of people will experiment with stupid things in their lives, including radical ideologies. It is our responsibility to tell them that's massively in error, that there will be consequences to those decisions, that they are welcome to make those mistakes though not encouraged to do so as young adults, and to explain to them why that road is mistaken and likely to be both fun and rough at the same time. It's also our responsibility to offer them the promise of the Prodigal Son, if and only if they repent of their error and demonstrate the requisite growth.

At any rate, the second error is the error of social capture or popular consensus. That is, it's the poisonous error of democracy, that the "truth" is ultimately tailored by what people are willing to hear. That simply isn't true, and what it does is affirm the error in the hope of using it to steer the ship. The problem is that doing so builds the exact false democratic consensus that needs to be rejected in the first place, thus making it harder to rescue people from it, not easier.

Telling the truth takes boldness, faith, and courage in these situations, not craftiness or pandering. Better to take a firm stand for righteousness and let there be wailing and gnashing of teeth before a repentant return than to squander the thing worth returning to in the hope of keeping wild horses in the stable.Ideally, taking a bold stand and drawing bold lines against error and evil would be rewarded, but that reward is only available in the long term where the length of the wait is proportional to the degree of the corruption having to be overcome.My hope and prayer is that the eyes of our remaining thought and activism leaders on the Right will be opened to what we are actually facing now and that their spines will be strengthened to do the right thing despite knowing full well what they'll get (in the short term) as a "reward."

As I said thousands of times to audiences regarding the Woke Left, though: the longer you wait to take a stand for the right thing, the harder it will be. The ugliness will only continue to grow and grow stronger and nastier the longer you waver and the more you pander and feed it. In the end, you will wish you stood up sooner, and everything you feared losing in your stand will be recognized for the vanity that it always was.

May God or Nature or your consciences or Jiminy Cricket or simply good, plain common sense and decency open your eyes and steel your spines sooner rather than later.

Again, you can see that James' definition of Woke has become so broad as to be basically meaningless; the Woke are people "flirting with big truths", but the fact that James believes HE'S found "a big truth" goes unbeWokened. Many "Rights" said they weren't anti-semitic; but now, in the face of Israeli behavior over the last several years, they've started to denounce Israel. Something James believes is anti-semitic, so of course, ergo, they must be Woke Right.

I've highlighted a few parts:

First, in blue, you can see James making a generic critique of people and ideologies that fail to learn from their mistakes. All well and good, but he could just as easily apply this to things like atheism (getting back to "ackshually, communism wasn't atheism, they just didn't do atheism the right way"), Zionism (<insert 109 Countries Meme here>), or the Forever War (I swear, guys, if you listen to James, Iran will be totally different from Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya, Syria, and Yemen!)

Second, and a little more worryingly in green, you can see James channeling his INNER FASH, by railing against "the poisonous error of democracy" (lmfao). I expect to see more of this, as James becomes increasingly comfortable with this own personal aWokening, and increasingly frustrated by the fact that now everyone - left AND right - is united against Israel and the PNAC vision of America that James wants to conserve. "If the people will not vote the right way, ignore democracy".

Then, in yellow, James get tired of selling his ideas to Boomer Christians by putting an appeal to "your conscience" and "Jimminy Cricket" on the same level as an appeal to God.

Finally, and most damning of all, is the following exchange; a man QRTs James' rant, saying "In which James literally just comes out and says he's containment", to which James replies:

https://archive.is/PjiF3

So to recap: James, who began this latest fight by advocating a repeat of the last several decades of American policy and calling anyone who disagrees with him a racist sexist homophobic Nazi (up to and including those notorious white nationalists at Arbys), thinks Woke is doing the same thing over and over again; thinks democracy is built on a poisonous error; and is full-on advocating Cancel Culture.

But YOU'RE the one who's Woke, not him, because you don't want him to have the power to decide who gets completely marginalized, and I guess you don't believe in Jimminy Crickit enough...?