🐟 Fishtank Sam Hyde's Fishtank.live General - Jet Neptune's Little House of Horrors

[Bingo Bongo 24]

I honestly have no idea how they are constantly running out of money.
It has to be a gas light, we've seen their back end financials.

Where can I see these?

 

[UnLimiTed-Lbs]

I guess this is why they got kicked out.
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[Pentamidine]

They sold 2000 stox of each of the 8 original contestants for 175 fishcoins each. I know most people buy fishcoin at the higher quantities so they're less than $0.10 each, but for the sake of this napkin math assume they're all bought at the base level - $1 buys 10 fishcoins so they're worth 10 cents each.

That's $280,000 just from selling stox of the original 8 contestants, which happened on the first or second day. And ofc they raked it in this season with TTS. Fishtank is too profitable for them to just stop doing, even if Sam comes to hate doing it.

 

[Norstein Bekkler]

Reflecting on the season, for the time we had it, there are certain things I wish they'd done differently, but I was fairly pleased overall. I thought the cast was a bunch of duds, but as they got more comfortable with each other, I came to like each and every one of those retards, in their own way. I know people didn't really care much for Dan or Ellie, but they had their own subtle moments.

If I had to single out any one particular thing that I think production needs to think about, it's the level of obfuscation and gaslighting that goes on around the structure of the show. Only a chaos agent like Freddy thrives in that environment. Direnc and Aryeh, who were both game to do pretty much any challenge, routinely started crashing out as it became apparent to them that there really weren't any rules in place. I'm not saying they should drop the gaslighting and other shenanigans, they're Fishtank DNA. But Direnc correctly pointed out that with no semblance of structure whatsoever and an anything goes environment, it's pretty demoralizing for the broader scope of the show and unmotivating for the more intense challenges. This season's cell was absolutely wild, but it's hard to want to endure something like that if someone can just steal your money while you're sleeping, and you have absolutely no idea whether you'll be paid whatsoever in the first place.

"You can steal fishbucks" was a bad idea. "You can shove people out of the house" was a bad idea. Having said that, these bad ideas generated good content, but I think unless they dial it back a bit, in the greater scope of the show, I don't think I could deal with 4 weeks of Aryeh and Direnc (somewhat rightfully) bitching about the rules and not wanting to participate.

 

[Chuck Shiesty]

You can steal fishbucks" was a bad idea.

Pretty much my only issue with this season. Aryeh's crashouts were funny over it but it's ultimately has pretty bad consequences for the wider scope of the show.

But Direnc correctly pointed out that with no semblance of structure whatsoever and an anything goes environment, it's pretty demoralizing for the broader scope of the show and unmotivating for the more intense challenges.

Direnc being the only one who actually cared about money and had a proper use for it (mortgage) is what made me think she was going to win regardless. Sam was immediately interested when she could explain her mortgage payment timeline succinctly and how the show would speed it up.

 

[SneakEnergy]

Why doesn't Sam or Jet just call this guy?

 

[JayseeDenton]

>i dont watch the show let me tell you why i dont watch it

To be completely fair this is what the entire farms is based on, just replace "don't watch" with "hate".

 

[Marche]

Reflecting on the season, for the time we had it, there are certain things I wish they'd done differently, but I was fairly pleased overall. I thought the cast was a bunch of duds, but as they got more comfortable with each other, I came to like each and every one of those retards, in their own way. I know people didn't really care much for Dan or Ellie, but they had their own subtle moments.

If I had to single out any one particular thing that I think production needs to think about, it's the level of obfuscation and gaslighting that goes on around the structure of the show. Only a chaos agent like Freddy thrives in that environment. Direnc and Aryeh, who were both game to do pretty much any challenge, routinely started crashing out as it became apparent to them that there really weren't any rules in place. I'm not saying they should drop the gaslighting and other shenanigans, they're Fishtank DNA. But Direnc correctly pointed out that with no semblance of structure whatsoever and an anything goes environment, it's pretty demoralizing for the broader scope of the show and unmotivating for the more intense challenges. This season's cell was absolutely wild, but it's hard to want to endure something like that if someone can just steal your money while you're sleeping, and you have absolutely no idea whether you'll be paid whatsoever in the first place.

"You can steal fishbucks" was a bad idea. "You can shove people out of the house" was a bad idea. Having said that, these bad ideas generated good content, but I think unless they dial it back a bit, in the greater scope of the show, I don't think I could deal with 4 weeks of Aryeh and Direnc (somewhat rightfully) bitching about the rules and not wanting to participate.

Most the cast don't even bother with any challenges this season, I don't even get why they are even there besides being on the show. Sam has said money does not incentives them but you look at S2 cast who would basically do much worse stuff for even less money, they need to go for a Full NEET tank if they really want money to matter or at least people who understand money is actually nice to have.
Or go more into the token system like S2 and have a commissary, Make people actually want to win, let them uberjeet Mcdonalds with tokens or something and only give them basic food otherwise like Prison.

 

[Chuck Shiesty]

they need to go for a Full NEET tank if they really want money to matter

Total opposite, Aryeh and Daniel are clearly shut ins and both couldn't give real answers regarding how they'd use the prize money. Relative normies like Direnc and Freddy are absolutely who they need to target moving forward, they resemble a lot of the good characteristics of the S3 cast which made FH1.0 fun while also having proper use-cases for their money (Direnc with her mortgage, Freddy likely for band/music shit).

S1 worked because a lot of them there had clear plans for their money too. S2 the ending was utter apathy because they money was going to waste no matter who won.

 

[Marche]

Total opposite, Aryeh and Daniel are clearly shut ins and both couldn't give real answers regarding how they'd use the prize money. Relative normies like Direnc and Freddy are absolutely who they need to target moving forward, they resemble a lot of the good characteristics of the S3 cast which made FH1.0 fun while also having proper use-cases for their money (Direnc with her mortgage, Freddy likely for band/music shit).

Daniel and Aryeh are autistic as fuck and probably don't even pay rent, they don't understand money.
Jimmy, Tay, TJ, Letty, Josie all were unemployed and were easily incentivised. Drenc only gives it the effort because she doesn't understand the rules and Freddy clearly doesn't care, I've seen him be just as no effort as Daniel or even worse like the Cell just being the first out.

 

[attractive_pneumonia]

That shit seems pretty easy assuming you have the tools. But I'm no mason and know fuckall about structural shit when it comes to basements.

It seems easy but its labor intensive, hence why I said get a small excavator because fuck digging each window area out by hand, get it done in a single day with minimal effort. Sometimes you just get fucked with hard clay soil and the shovels and picks just bounce off it like it was solid rock. Also the other option is to just install bilco doors and a basement entrance and fuck dealing with the basement window exits. It resolves the egress issue and also makes it easier to move shit into and out of the basement in general.

 

[Chuck Shiesty]

Jimmy

Jimmy is still convinced flipping Hoarderman's house is gonna net him six+ figures, he absolutely has no concept of money.

 

[attractive_pneumonia]

Jimmy, Tay, TJ, Letty, Josie all were unemployed and were easily incentivised.

Only Letty was unemployed. TJ worked at a flour mill, Jimmy at a paper mill, Tay ran her crochet business and was making more doing it than throwing fries in a bag even then and Josie was sorting recyclables out of trash on a conveyor belt.

 

[Marche]

Jimmy is still convinced flipping Hoarderman's house is gonna net him six+ figures, he absolutely has no concept of money.

No, he has a concept of money, he has no concept of value thats totally different.
He thinks there is value in hoardermans house thus he has a concept of money.

 

[Norstein Bekkler]

Daniel and Aryeh are autistic as fuck and probably don't even pay rent, they don't understand money.

Absolutely, and this is why Aryeh crashed so hard about his fishbucks. That's probably the most money he's ever personally had in his entire life.

I like the mix though. Relative normies and absolute autists. I think Aryeh and Dan might've been a bit -too- autistic, but an autist like Aryeh that never shuts the fuck up and will continually incriminate himself is pretty fucking funny to watch, in a trainwreck kind of way. I think Freddy has added a new archetype to Fishtank that needs to be included from now on. We always say "oh ____ is this season's Jon, ____ is this season's Letty", etc. I think we'll be hearing a lot of "_____ is this season's Freddy" from now on.

 

[Vinluv Handesbukia]

Who's the better ruler, Emperor Aryeh or Sheikh Freddy?

 

[EenGevolg]

Reflecting on the season, for the time we had it, there are certain things I wish they'd done differently, but I was fairly pleased overall. I thought the cast was a bunch of duds, but as they got more comfortable with each other, I came to like each and every one of those retards, in their own way. I know people didn't really care much for Dan or Ellie, but they had their own subtle moments.

If I had to single out any one particular thing that I think production needs to think about, it's the level of obfuscation and gaslighting that goes on around the structure of the show. Only a chaos agent like Freddy thrives in that environment. Direnc and Aryeh, who were both game to do pretty much any challenge, routinely started crashing out as it became apparent to them that there really weren't any rules in place. I'm not saying they should drop the gaslighting and other shenanigans, they're Fishtank DNA. But Direnc correctly pointed out that with no semblance of structure whatsoever and an anything goes environment, it's pretty demoralizing for the broader scope of the show and unmotivating for the more intense challenges. This season's cell was absolutely wild, but it's hard to want to endure something like that if someone can just steal your money while you're sleeping, and you have absolutely no idea whether you'll be paid whatsoever in the first place.

"You can steal fishbucks" was a bad idea. "You can shove people out of the house" was a bad idea. Having said that, these bad ideas generated good content, but I think unless they dial it back a bit, in the greater scope of the show, I don't think I could deal with 4 weeks of Aryeh and Direnc (somewhat rightfully) bitching about the rules and not wanting to participate.

Practically as soon as some pretense of rules was made with magic bucks, Aryeh started plotting out how to take Freddy out with him. It felt kind of admirable how he flat out refused to accept the redpill and fully crash out like Drench did. Some people work better with rules, some without them, and you've gotta figure out how to get things out of both for good content.

 

[Pentamidine]

The solution to the "it's all rigged" thing would have been for Jet to go up and explain "Look - we were never going to eliminate someone for getting shoved out the door. But it was really funny to watch so we let you guys think we would have. If Dan or Aryeh had gotten thrown out, they'd still be on the show too".

Jet said during S3 to Sam that the fish need some sense of agency. If everyone's random, if each elimination is just a dice roll, the fish don't stay motivated. I tend to agree with him

 

[burkinoff]

I wouldn't be surprised if this ends up being the final season of Fishtank.

This is an insane take lmao. Sam definitely doesn't love fishtank which i agree with, but it would be silly to suggest that it would be the last season. He loves the money he makes from it and he has to do fuck all in comparison to Jet and the rest of the crew.

 

[Chuck Shiesty]

but an autist like Aryeh that never shuts the fuck up and will continually incriminate himself is pretty fucking funny to watch, in a trainwreck kind of way

Wording this. It's been as funny as watching Burt self-incriminate on the Jim O'Hare stuff.

think Freddy has added a new archetype to Fishtank that needs to be included from now on

He's pretty much Alex B lite rather than his own thing tbf. Both of them have been great and it's clear they wanted Alex to go far in S3 before he crashed out, so I suspect they'll keep going for guys like them as long as the show goes on.